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Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3343 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Will they finally get it up in space? Boeing will launch its 1st Starliner astronaut mission today after delays. Here's how to watch it live online. Space fans will be glued to their screens for the historic liftoff, which will send NASA's Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams toward the International Space Station (ISS) atop a United Launch Alliance (ULA) Atlas V rocket. Launch is currently scheduled for 12:25 p.m. EDT (1625 GMT) on Saturday, June 1. You can watch it here at Space.com, courtesy of NASA and follow the mission with our Boeing Starliner live updates. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36746 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
And the launch got canned yet again. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36746 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
After many year they finally made it, but not without a few problems. Boeing Starliner’s crew is now on the space station after encountering new issues en route. Cheers. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21204 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
After many year they finally made it, but not without a few problems. Thanks for that... And "by 'eck!", and after so many test flights, there is still some rather critical dubiousness: ... After a successful launch that was a decade in the making, Boeing’s Starliner mission experienced helium leaks and a temporary loss of thrusters during its journey to the space station, according to NASA. Here's wishing for a safe flight! Fly safe!! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36746 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
The troubles continues. Boeing Starliner's return to Earth postponed, with no new date set for astronauts' flight home. NASA has postponed the return to Earth of Boeing's Starliner space capsule from the International Space Station with its first crew of astronauts to allow more time for a review of technical problems. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36746 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
A rescue mission is on the cards now. SpaceX may be forced to come to the rescue of two astronauts stranded at the International Space Station after their initial ride suffered troubling leaks. SpaceX may be forced to come to the rescue of two astronauts stranded at the International Space Station after their Boeing Starliner suffered troubling helium leaks. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1182 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
What an embarrassment for Boeing. The previous statement was that the delay was only to allow engineers to analyze the propulsion stage and occured faults in detail before it will be ejected, and burned out in the athmosphere during landing. The landing itself would not be endangered. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21204 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
More than 'just' an 'embarrassment'... How did the Boeing craft get all the way to carrying astronauts, real live people, whilst having failing critical (life essential) systems? How were supposedly redundant systems permitted that suffered common mode component failures??... (That is, if one system fails with a common component, they are ALL likely to fail...) Fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36746 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Wishful thinking, or just flogging a dead horse trying to avoid a SpaceX rescue? Astronauts stuck in space 'confident' Boeing's Starliner capsule will bring them home. Two US astronauts who should have returned to Earth weeks ago say they are confident that the problem-plagued Boeing Starliner spacecraft they rode up on can bring them back safely, despite significant uncertainties remaining. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1182 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Hey, both Sunita Williams and Barry Willmore have already flown to the ISS twice on the Russian Soyuz. You know... these tin cans that sometimes develop mysterious holes in their outer walls. These negligible shortcomings of the Starliner are nothing compared to the true adventure: Russian space tech. |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3343 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
I'm guessing Boeing really is stuck behind the proverbial 8-ball and will have to abandon the broken space capsule but won't admit it. Space-X Dragon to the rescue NASA says it is “evaluating all options” for the safe return of Starliner crew |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36746 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
The saga just gets worse. Astronauts stuck in space given horrifying news: Starliner’s troubles continue. What was intended as a week long trip to the International Space Station (ISS) for the first NASA astronauts flying with Boeing might now extend to eight months.Rumours are getting about that the Starliner capsule may have to stay attached until the ISS is decommissioned for safety reasons. |
Michael Watson Send message Joined: 7 Feb 08 Posts: 1387 Credit: 2,098,506 RAC: 5 |
The Boeing Starliner isn't programed for automated reentry. There is some talk of reprograming it, so that it can return to Earth without a pilot. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21204 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Rumours are getting about that the Starliner capsule may have to stay attached until the ISS is decommissioned for safety reasons. Hopefully that isn't the case in reality... Starliner is docked at the most advantageous docking port on the ISS... A great inconvenience! Hopefully, they have the option to at least passively jettison the Starliner and use the ISS (Russian) thrusters to move the ISS safely away before they meet the free-floating Starliner on the opposite side of the orbit! ... Or, Boeing could patch together the Autonomous or remote control software... Fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36746 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It's now official, Butch and Sundance will have to wait for a lift home. The two Boeing Starliner astronauts who have been stranded in space for 80 days will have to stay put for another six months, NASA officials have announced. The two Boeing Starliner astronauts who have been stranded in space for 80 days will have to stay put for another six months, NASA officials announced Saturday.....While Boeing may have been happy for them to return in the dodgy capsule NASA certainly isn't. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21204 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
“commitment to safety,” Hallelujah! Very much the right decision. Now, can Boeing properly and safely fix their bits? Too much cost cutting haste into less speed and greater rework costs?... Fly safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3343 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Until they get another rocket ready to launch, 8 billion people are stranded down there. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21204 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Thanks for that... A beautiful perspective! Fly safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36746 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
There are winners and losers as NASA plans to bring Butch and Sundance home earlier. NASA Bumps 2 from SpaceX Flight to Make Room for Astronauts Stuck in Space. NASA announced on Friday that it will bump two crew members from its upcoming mission to the International Space Station (ISS). |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3343 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Focus Military on Facebook said the following about Boeing -vs- SpaceX: * Why is Boeing, a seasoned aerospace giant, struggling with space exploration while SpaceX, a relative newcomer, is soaring to success? * Boeing, with its rich history in aerospace, has been a leader for decades. However, this long legacy also brings challenges. Boeing is often tied to older, more rigid systems, and faces layers of bureaucracy that can slow down innovation. * Their reliance on established practices and government contracts can make it harder to pivot quickly or adopt cutting-edge technologies. On the flip side, SpaceX, founded by Elon Musk in 2002, had the advantage of starting with a clean slate. They embraced a culture of innovation from day one, focusing on agility, rapid prototyping, and learning from failures. * Their ambitious goals—like reusable rockets—pushed them to constantly innovate. Plus, being privately funded, SpaceX had the flexibility to take risks that traditional companies like Boeing might shy away from. * Moreover, SpaceX’s hands-on approach, with engineers working closely on the factory floor, has enabled them to iterate and improve their designs quickly. This lean approach, combined with a clear vision of lowering space travel costs, has allowed SpaceX to outpace more established players. * In short, Boeing’s struggles reflect the challenges of adapting a legacy company to a rapidly changing industry, while SpaceX’s success is driven by a modern, innovative, and risk-tolerant approach. It’s a fascinating clash of the old guard versus the new wave in the race to the stars! |
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