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zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66322 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Lava is on the surface, Magma is underground, this is from what I've read, plus I did earn a badge in geology years ago. Just saying. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1177 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Lava is on the surface, Magma is underground, this is from what I've read, plus I did earn a badge in geology years ago.You are right. They do GPS-based measurements of the land uplift above a known magma chamber near the Blue Lagoon. From this, the scientists can determine the amount of magma that has accumulated. As soon as the chamber is full, magma propagates a few kilometers horizontally to a rift zone to the East. Weak earth quakes start days before the next eruption fissure opens up spreading Lava. The whole process seems to repeat over and over again. How long? Years? Decades? Centuries? Nobody knows. Bad prospects for the future of the nearby village Grindavík. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22522 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
The rift zone runs more or less North-east to South-west, passing about 2.5km to the East of the Blue lagoon. The whole area around the Blue Lagoon, a major geothermal power plant and Grindavik is covered by an array of GPS and other sensors which allow the tracking of height and lateral movements, in addition to highly detailed quake and tremor recording. The whole area "enjoys" a vast number of small quakes, both during the inflation and deflation phases of the magma dome. Combined with the gathering pool of human experience allows the approximate location of a new eruption to be predicted (probably to the nearest 0.5km - good enough to get a wide angle camera to view the site. With all the recent activity they are getting quite good at predicting both the location and the time of a probable eruption, so can pre-emptively evacuate affected structures like Grindavik and the Blue Lagoon (the power plant is now run from a remote location so very few people actually on site). How long will this activity continue? If past eruption phases in the area are anything to go by then 100-200 years, with all the major structures in the area being buried in that time. I hope the Iceland government has plans in hand for a new harbour and power plant. What of the airport and Reykjavik? Well that's a big question, while not at immediate risk the road linking the two could easily be rendered unusable which would be a serious blow as there is only one airport in the country capable of handling large international flights - a new one needs to be built in a "safe" location within "easy" reach of Reykjavik (unless that city is moved somewhere else). Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36726 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Magnitude 4.7 earthquake rattles large parts of NSWWell I certainly didn't feel it, but there is a theory about it. According a geophysicist the 4.7 earthquake in Denman could have been triggered by one simple factor. The 4.7 magnitude earthquake that rocked the town of Denman in NSW could have been caused by coal mining in the area, according to an expert. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13853 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
And another one. NSW Hunter Region hit by another magnitude-4.5 earthquake, a day after similar event The New South Wales Hunter region has been hit by another earthquake on Saturday, a day after a similar event. Grant Darwin NT |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1177 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
How long will this activity continue? If past eruption phases in the area are anything to go by then 100-200 years, with all the major structures in the area being buried in that time. I hope the Iceland government has plans in hand for a new harbour and power plant."all major structures"????? I didn't know it is this bad. With today's availability of heavy machinery (trucks, bulldozers, excavators) they can prepare dams to reroute Lava streams (e.g. the slope of terrain determines possible directions). It's a question of topography and economics: how much should they spend to save the harbour, village, roads, ... the airport? As with a "new airport". Iceland reused the U.S. Airbase Keflavik to save the huge investments for two 10,000 ft runways. In this climate zone, runways in all four directions are probably needed to ensure year-round operations (frequent storms). Can a small country like Iceland (only 400K inhabitants) afford to build a new, quite large airport, capable for intercontinental operations like in Keflavik (8M PAX, ~80,000 aircraft movements, 40,000...60,000 tons of cargo)? ...and "move Reykjavik somewhere else"... is beyond imagination... |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22522 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
It is a worrying time. The major structures in the immediate area are the power plant and its associated connections to the western half of the country, the roads (some of which have already been buried and re-routed, but those new routes are themselves under threat. Then there's one of the world's largest glass houses (it's huge!), a major maritime radio station (also used by trans-Atlantic air traffic - Iceland is more or less in the middle of one of the Great-Circle air corridors between Europe and North America). There's one of the world's largest glasshouses, a few hotels and more.... One thing that takes a bit to get one's head round is that this region is fairly flat, so very small changes in exact location can have very dramatic changes in which way the lava flows. If one of the recent eruptions had happened a couple of hundred meters north it would have probably cut the airport road instead of heading towards Grindavik (to the south), and that eruption was on what appeared to be a flat plane with barely a metre change in elevation over 1km! Grindavik, and its harbour are under two threats from the current volcanic & seismic activity, first, and most obvious is the lava, which the can delay, but probably not stop in the long term. The second is the vast number of cracks, and voids that have opened up in the area - one estimate suggests that over a third of the building in the village have been seriously damaged by these together with localised uplift and subsidence. A lot of effort is being put into mapping these changes, but no sooner have they finished one round but another earthquake swarm comes along and re-draws the map ("old" features vanish, "new" ones arrive). - I think Grindavik and its harbour are not going to survive this sort of activity much longer, even if it doesn't get covered in lava :-( The airport is a fun place to visit! Iceland's weather is predominately from the south west (spring to autumn) or north east (autumn to spring) so a bit of thought in runway direction could well make life much easier - as it is the two runways (which are aligned more or less north/south and east west) are rarely shut due to storms , but do have trouble with fog(!) All my flights to & from Iceland have used the East/West runway which has the clearer approaches. Don't underestimate the Icelandic people, if they put their minds to building a new airport or a new city it would happen -but probably not needed in our lifetimes, but perhaps in a couple of hundred years? Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19393 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
From Val Troll's Volcano Channel https://www.youtube.com/@ValTroll Grindavik, bent house 30 sec. GRINDAVIK Abandoned; Ghost town 58 sec. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1177 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
One thing that takes a bit to get one's head round is that this region is fairly flat, so very small changes in exact location can have very dramatic changes in which way the lava flows. If one of the recent eruptions had happened a couple of hundred meters north it would have probably cut the airport road instead of heading towards Grindavik (to the south), and that eruption was on what appeared to be a flat plane with barely a metre change in elevation over 1km! 2024-08-25 22:31 (larger, more detailed map linked): updated Aug 26 17:30 UTC: ...to where the airport road runs... I estimate the latest lava streams were only 4 ... 5 kilometers short from reaching the airport road. Another such large eruption and... |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19393 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Driving Through the Abandoned Town Grindavik During a Volcanic Eruption by Just Icelandic 12m 23sec. Quite a few clips of before and after. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1177 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Driving Through the Abandoned Town Grindavik During a Volcanic Eruption by Just Icelandic 12m 23sec.Scary: ~9m30s This entire five-storey building and its surrounding was shifted vertically by a meter or more... as if it had been built without a deep foundation on permafrost, the upper layers of which thaw in summer. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22522 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
It's not on permafrost, but on the solidified lava (in various forms) from previous eruptions. I watched this video with sadness as I recognised places from my visits to Grindavik a few years back when the village was a buzzing community. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36726 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It's shakin' down south again around those mines causing power outages this time. NSW’s Hunter Region hit by 4.5 magnitude earthquake. Another earthquake has rocked NSW’s Hunter Region, with people living across the state reporting being woken by rocking beds. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19393 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Iceland, near the Blue Lagoon, has erupted again at 23:14 UTC 20 th Nov. AfarTV - Live Now: 24/7 Iceland Volcanic Eruption Watch (Multi-cam) mbl.is live streams youtube page Prof Shawn Willsey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULRdzwdcW7E |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1177 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
2024-11-21 02:10: (Photo: Civil Protection/Björn Oddsson) source: https://en.vedur.is/about-imo/news/eruption-begins-on-the-sundhnukur-fissure-swarm |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19393 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Latest news says the Blue Lagoon car park has been covered in lava. Images too large to post here, https://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/news/2024/11/21/entire_blue_lagoon_car_park_now_covered_in_lava/ |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22522 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
It is worth noting that the car park was outside the berm protected area for the Blue Lagoon itself. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 30638 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
Here is a good daylight photo of the former parking lot. |
Admiral Gloval Send message Joined: 31 Mar 13 Posts: 21263 Credit: 5,308,449 RAC: 0 |
Looks like the Volcano God didn’t like the pavement job and decided to redo it. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19393 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Opening of this Isak Finnbogason - ICELAND FPV video shows the parking lot location. |
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