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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
When the first sign of intelligent life first visits us from space, it won’t be a giant saucer hovering over New York. More likely, it will be an alien civilization’s trash. Avi Loeb, the chair of Harvard’s Department of Astronomy, believes he’s already found some of that garbage. In his upcoming book, “Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth” (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt), out Jan. 26, the professor lays out a compelling case for why an object that recently wandered into our solar system was not just another rock but actually a piece of alien technology. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Sorry the other thread was closed. Locked out yesterday, again sorry. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Sorry this is late. :-( https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9169357/Harvard-physicist-digs-theory-interstellar-visitor-Oumuamu-alien-craft.html So is it an alien spacecraft? Harvard physicist digs into his theory that the interstellar visitor Oumuamu is not a comet but uses an extraterrestrial propulsion system to fly through space |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Sorry this is late. :-( https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9169357/Harvard-physicist-digs-theory-interstellar-visitor-Oumuamu-alien-craft.html So is it an alien spacecraft? Harvard physicist digs into his theory that the interstellar visitor Oumuamu is not a comet but uses an extraterrestrial propulsion system to fly through space Harvard physicist Avi Loeb is not shy about his idea that Earth's 2017 interstellar visitor being an extraterrestrial craft and is set to release a book to defending his claim with more detail. The book, titled 'Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth,' argues the consensus that Oumuamu is not a comet or asteroid, but a light sail – a method of spacecraft propulsion. In a recent interview with Salon Loeb explains that Oumuamu exhibited excess push, which he believes comes from sunlight. 'So a light sail is just like a sail on a boat that reflects the wind, the wind is pushing it,' Loeb told Salon... |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
I doubt that the Mathematics surrounding gravity and the kinematical thrust of icy outgassing from comets would support such a nonsense theory. Am I correct that there is no picture of the object. On the face of it, why would an advanced civilization package up their garbage and attach it to an advanced propulsion system and then use another system to get it off of their planet in the first place. If it actually is quite apparent that it was not from the Oort cloud or the Kuiper belt then that would be enough excitement to attach to this object--without all of the other hype. We must separate the buffoons from the serious astronomers when there is an appetite for sensationalism and notoriety. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21183 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Indeed, there are no detailed photographs of the object beyond just the light intensity measured in a single pixel. The shape is inferred from the observed light curves, and possibly from RADAR echos (Arecibo?)... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21183 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Indeed, there are no detailed photographs of the object beyond just the light intensity measured in a single pixel. And... More recent study(s) / simulation(s) suggest the best fit for the shape for Oumuamua is... A roughened pancake-like disc of material. There are some very good and plausible natural explanations for such a shape. Sorry, no "ET" needed for that one. Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Michael Watson Send message Joined: 7 Feb 08 Posts: 1387 Credit: 2,098,506 RAC: 5 |
Yes, the shape of 'Oumuamua might conceivably have a natural explanation. I have not seen a satisfactory explanation, though, for how it was able the increase its expected speed, as it departed from the inner solar system. Various cometary outgassing scenarios have been proposed, but none of them satisfactorily explain how 'Oumuamua is supposed to have provided the needed thrust without affecting the spin of the object. I hasten to add that the gravitational effects of 'Oumuamua passing near the Sun, and the thrust obtainable from the Solar wind had already been allowed for. An additional amount of mysterious thrust would have been necessary to speed the object along, as was observed. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
This object would be interesting just due to its ostensible origin from outside the solar system. It seems that the actual "observations" are based on scant data and much hype and speculation. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21183 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Here's a very good explanation and a good presentation: Oumuamua Finally Explained Using a Brilliant Analysis Looks good. Keep searchin'! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36726 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I guess that someone would come up with this. A spacecraft could visit weird interloper 'Oumuamua. Here's how. In 2017, a totally bizarre object zipped through the solar system. Nicknamed 'Oumuamua, this interstellar traveler was too far away and too speedy to be identified. Years later, scientists are still puzzling over what it might have been.Cheers. |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
Hope we do get mission in place to get to Oumuamua: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2022/01/18/nasa-to-oumuamua-the-new-22-year-mission-to-the-extraordinary-object-said-to-be-an-alien-solar-sail/ ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
Philosopher8659 Send message Joined: 21 Oct 15 Posts: 97 Credit: 2,696 RAC: 0 |
Actually, they have guided me probably since I was born to show you exactly why you cannot find them, even though the evidence has been examined for a long, long time. Man has not been able to read it. So, I was asked to show mankind how. Now, you might want to examine my work in geometry first, to see if you can "get it." You will find that work in the pdf vol set, Universal Language. https://archive.org/details/aliens-response-to-mans-questions_202207 https://archive.org/details/AUniversalLanguage https://archive.org/details/TheDifferenceBetweenManAndBeast https://archive.org/details/DelianQuest2015 |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36726 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Will the chase be on? ‘Oumuamua: Plan to chase down our first known interstellar visitor. .....Interstellar tail chase |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11415 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
That is not going to happen, |
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