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Message 2059199 - Posted: 14 Oct 2020, 10:07:54 UTC

The moon is the perfect spot for SETI

https://phys.org/news/2020-10-moon-seti.html

"For example, astronomers want to conduct radio astronomy on the far side of the moon, where telescopes could probe the earliest period of the Universe free of terrestrial radio interference. Taking this a step further, a team of astronomers recently recommended that a radio telescope on the far side of the moon (or in lunar orbit) could aid in another important area of research: the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI)!"
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Message 2059211 - Posted: 14 Oct 2020, 12:04:04 UTC - in response to Message 2059199.  

LOL. Will Amazon use their drones to deliver the HDD's for Seti?
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Message 2059216 - Posted: 14 Oct 2020, 12:20:25 UTC

I really don't think Angela would let Eric commute that far.
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Message 2059218 - Posted: 14 Oct 2020, 12:22:40 UTC - in response to Message 2059216.  

I really don't think Angela would let Eric commute that far.

She could come with him and Eric could use the carpool lane. :-)

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Message 2059220 - Posted: 14 Oct 2020, 12:39:23 UTC

Think again. They just remodeled the house and Angela got her dream kitchen. She's not moving.
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Message 2059241 - Posted: 14 Oct 2020, 15:21:14 UTC

If they go to the Moon they have to build shelters with heavy walls to avoid being damaged by cosmic radiation. The Moon has not an atmosphere nor a magnetic field to deflect charged particles.
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Message 2059243 - Posted: 14 Oct 2020, 15:28:54 UTC - in response to Message 2059241.  
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If they go to the Moon they have to build shelters with heavy walls to avoid being damaged by cosmic radiation. The Moon has not an atmosphere nor a magnetic field to deflect charged particles.

Worse than that:

The moon regolith dust becomes charged and rises to form a very hostile environment for any surface equipment.

Also, working from the far side of the moon with the aim of shielding the installation from all radio interference from the Earth, how do you then transmit your continuous stream of data back home (to Earth...)?


Something more akin to the plans for the James Webb Space Telescope located far away at a Lagrange point looks easier and more promising.

The big question there is do you go super-reliable and long lasting, or Elon Musk rapid and expendable?


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Message 2059256 - Posted: 14 Oct 2020, 18:23:03 UTC

Cosmic rays and radiation are some problems. Have you looked at the surface cratering impacts.

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Message 2059261 - Posted: 14 Oct 2020, 19:26:30 UTC - in response to Message 2059255.  
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Elon Musk is certainly expendable, and the sooner the better.

Lets see...

We have the great positive ongoing success of:

  • SpaceX: Revolutionized rocketry and expanding into space overcoming 20 years and many BILLION$ of pork-barrel stagnation;
  • Tesla Electric Vehicles and 'Giga-factories': Smashing a half-century of fossils fuels vehicle manufacturing stagnation;
  • Starlink: Revolutionizing world-wide communication and internet access: Soon to obliterate the far far too long stagnation of the decrepit telegraph wires we suffer with "ADSL" and "POTS";
  • Hyperloop: Revolutionizing high speed ground travel to blow away the costly inefficiencies of high speed old-style railways;
  • Boring Company: To revolutionize moving our transport and service infrastructure underground to greatly improve our above ground 'experience'...
    (Plus other adventures?)


Great credit is due to such positive success.

All a very good positive success that hasn't relied on exploiting 'a tax on your life'... What is there not to like about Elon Musk as compared to other industrial despots?


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Message 2059263 - Posted: 14 Oct 2020, 19:29:02 UTC - in response to Message 2059261.  

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Message 2059389 - Posted: 16 Oct 2020, 5:10:15 UTC - in response to Message 2059263.  

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Message 2059394 - Posted: 16 Oct 2020, 6:01:44 UTC

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Message 2059456 - Posted: 16 Oct 2020, 18:01:57 UTC
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I have watched a Blue Origin sponsored launch of a New Shepard rocket which sent to orbit an unmanned capsule and recovered its first stage in a SpaceX mode. But does Blue Origin belong to Jeff Bezos, the Amazon founder?
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Message 2059461 - Posted: 16 Oct 2020, 19:28:05 UTC - in response to Message 2059456.  
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I have watched a Blue Origin sponsored launch of a New Shepard rocket which sent to orbit an unmanned capsule and recovered its first stage in a SpaceX mode. But does Blue Origin belong to Jeff Bezos, the Amazon founder?

Yes.

Blue Origin is a "Space Tourists Joy Ride" pet project of his. They have until recently focused on a joyride vertically up to the edge of space. Similar to the Virgin Galactic joyride but without the Thunderbirds-style approach.

In a surprise award from NASA, they've recently expanded their dreams to next develop a lander for the moon.


Meanwhile, SpaceX is rocketing ahead in all respects!

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