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Message 2035534 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 4:17:46 UTC

Since signing on with Rosetta, the darned thing won't stop running.
I have the resources set at 50/50, but Rosetta won't let go.
Is there something I am overlooking ?
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Message 2035549 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 5:27:06 UTC - in response to Message 2035534.  

Rosetta suspended, SETI moving.
I suppose one has to manually control it...
which comes as a surprise to me.
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Message 2035566 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 7:13:48 UTC - in response to Message 2035549.  

That's a choice. But the scheduler built into BOINC is time based. It will switch between projects according to how much time has been spent on either.

The scheduler takes time to learn this switching as well and not all projects behave the same as others. It won't learn it in an hour, think more in time of weeks to months.

And if you ran Seti alone for a while, then added the second project on a 50/50 basis, the second project would still first have to make up the time you spent on Seti.

Manually suspending is a choice but will only make things worse.
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Message 2035568 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 7:20:18 UTC - in response to Message 2035534.  
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Since signing on with Rosetta, the darned thing won't stop running.
I have the resources set at 50/50, but Rosetta won't let go.
Is there something I am overlooking ?
Yep.
You have already processed work for Seti, so it is now balncing up the debt owed to the new project. But as you've just joined Rosetta, and haven't been with Seti for very long, it will take a while for it to figure out what to run & when & how long for.
If you want to do more Seti (while it's still here) than Rosetta, just set it for 80 /20 Seti/Rostta. If you want a 50/50 split (eventually) then keep it at 50/50 and let things sort themselves out, don't suspend any projects.


When running more than one project, it's worth having a very small cache (and it will help speed up it's sorting things out work). It would be best to do this on your Rosetta Account page as Seti is coming out of it's weekly database maintenance outage, and things aren't going too well at the moment (probably another 2-6 hours before normal service will be resumed).
On your account page, Computing preferences, in the Other section,
Store at least            0.5  days of work
Store up to an additional 0.03 days of work

Once you save the change, the next time BOINC contacts a project (and the project is responding) it will get those new settings.
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Message 2035592 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 9:07:08 UTC

Another thing to consider is that when you start a new project it has no history, and the resource balancing system within BOINC uses the history to sort things out. So with no history for a project the first thing it has to do is make one, and it does that by running an excess of tasks until it has got enough history to say "right, I can start balancing out properly". And that takes t-i-m-e. I don't think it will have sorted out how things will balance correctly this side of the great shutdown :-(
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Message 2036185 - Posted: 6 Mar 2020, 5:06:32 UTC - in response to Message 2035592.  

Thanks to everyone. I will stop beating BOINC with my hammer of impatience.
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