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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Or how we try to tell a signal from noise? I have a friend who has a very good question. At least from a Seti@Home point of view, how do we tell a Signal from "the Noise". I am a layman (it took multiple tries to get through a Calculus I course). So I am looking for a tutorial or series of tutorials that help me get my mind around "Doing Signal Analysis" with a bent towards Seti@Home type analysis. I get that we need to "clean" the data of RFI from Earth resources. But what are/is the basics of Signal Analysis? Yes, I will be re-reading the intro articles. But I want "more" :) Thank you. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22526 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Assuming the the data is in the time domain (signal strength vs. time) The most basic is the Mk1 eyeball - plot the data with time on the x-axis and signal on the y-axis - any really significant areas (noise or otherwise) will show up. Next up is the shift the data from time base to frequency base, There are a number of ways of doing this, but the most common pair are Fourier Transform and Fast Fourier Transform, best are, as their names suggest related to each other, the first is a little more rigorous, but far slower on large data set. Then you get things like Gaussian Transforms, Wavelets, and many more. Some are better at one type of data than others, but are less universal that the Fast Fourier Transform - which, as its name suggests, is fast (relatively speaking), and there are hardware solutions available (RT-FFT, great fun but scores FF on the expense scale). So once you have your data in the Frequency Domain (crudely speaking signal strength vs. frequency) you can do all sorts of analysis, such as peak FD-peak detection - at what frequency do the peaks occur, FD-mulitplet detection - is there a series of peaks at regular(ish) frequency interval (we've all seen discussion of doublets and triplets), harmonic analysis, and so on...... Each of these tools and techniques has had many books and papers published on them, and it is all too easy to find oneself heading into the depths of number theory as well as signal analysis. There used to be a "fairly simple" introductory book with a title like "Basic Signal Analysis" as many of the worked examples were based on paper and pencil approaches (long before desktop computers were even at the one-per-lab level, never mind the ubiquitous smart phone and laptop of today...). I daren't give you the titles of the books I have on the subject as they are aimed at the post-doc market, great for giving 1st/2nd year 1st degree students a nose bleed. In some respects it is mostly the application of the outcome of calculus, so it is all about repeating a number of fairly simple equations and gradually homing in on the answer (and that's something computers are very good at - they don't get bored. Well HAL did, but that's a different story!) Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
===edit=== There used to be a "fairly simple" introductory book with a title like "Basic Signal Analysis" as many of the worked examples were based on paper and pencil approaches ===edit=== In some respects it is mostly the application of the outcome of calculus, so it is all about repeating a number of fairly simple equations and gradually homing in on the answer (and that's something computers are very good at - they don't get bored. Well HAL did, but that's a different story!) Thank you Bob. I will do more "simple" reading as I try to understand what we are "doing". I guess that is why the Seti@Home screen saver is so attractive. Right or Wrong it engages that MK-1 eyeball you were talking about. :) Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Basic+Signal+Analysis&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
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