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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13853 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Final report into Wallan train derailment "In the 12 days prior to the accident, the driver had operated the XPT service through Wallan eight times, and on all occasions the crossing loop was locked out of service," ATSB Chief Commissioner Angus Mitchell said in the final report. Grant Darwin NT |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31002 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Virtual Railfan has a new camera in Austell Georgia which has only just gone live, and captured this.And couldn't due to the idiots that ignored the markings on the road and stopped there anyway, blocking him from turning. The street view from May 22 shows those markings in pretty bad shape. No matter, he had plenty of room to get the rear clear of the tracks. If he had to go around the block and come back so what. Safety First! |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13853 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
The video of the accident shows them to be in very good condition.Virtual Railfan has a new camera in Austell Georgia which has only just gone live, and captured this.And couldn't due to the idiots that ignored the markings on the road and stopped there anyway, blocking him from turning. Grant Darwin NT |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3343 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Electric third rail shocks two Lollapalooza attendees taking selfies on Chicago ("El") train tracks * The incident happened on August 5 in Chicago's Oak Park, and left both victims, an unnamed man and woman, hospitalized - with the former in critical condition |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1182 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Darwin Award applicants? More and more people are oblivious to much of the technology around them today. They don't care anymore how things work. There is a platform and railroad tracks. It is a Metro system of a large metropolis. There are no overhead lines. How is this train powered? Obviously with the third (power) rail. It has to have deadly voltages to move a train weighing hundreds of tons. Actually, every 6-year-old child should come to this realization through observation. Chicago built an electric transportation system very early on, before safety was a concern. People back then were not so irresponsible and careless. In the Berlin subway, the oldest routes from the 1900...1920s also have such non-covered power rails (750V DC). The newer mostly above-ground S-Bahn routes (also 750V DC) from the 1930s have covered power rails contacted from below. Should one convert more than 100-year-old metro systems for billions of dollars to today's safety standards because more and more crazy, careless people are walking around in this world? |
Graham Middleton Send message Joined: 1 Sep 00 Posts: 1520 Credit: 86,815,638 RAC: 0 |
I totally agree, I also think that this careless attitude is encouraged by the lawyers operating the 'someone else's fault' litigation system that is so popular now. This is encouraging people to the mindset of "if anything happens to me, it's someone else's fault" completely ignoring (or forgetting) that they will very likely be dead! Darwin Award applicants? Happy Crunching, Graham |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66327 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I agree with you Graham Middleton. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22526 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
I'm not sure if it's lawyers or the "I have the right to do what I like" brigade, or brats brought up by parents who couldn't give ***t for the life of the one they bred Said brats have now bred more brats that have even less thought for others, only their own "enjoyment". Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3343 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
I'm not sure if it's lawyers or the "I have the right to do what I like" brigade, or brats brought up by parents who couldn't give ***t for the life of the one they bred Said brats have now bred more brats that have even less thought for others, only their own "enjoyment". Exactly. Evolution, The dumb mindless humans breeding with another dumb mindless humans making the offspring even dumber!!! |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1182 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Exactly. Evolution, The dumb mindless humans breeding with another dumb mindless humans making the offspring even dumber!!!But that's not what Charles Darwin discovered. Somehow the human race is a strange species. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66327 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Exactly. Evolution, The dumb mindless humans breeding with another dumb mindless humans making the offspring even dumber!!!But that's not what Charles Darwin discovered. Somehow the human race is a strange species. Humans are hybrids, all are HOMO just like 2500 other mammal species... Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1182 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Hmmm, I meant something like: "Survival of the fittest". While human ethics and modern societies also ensure the survival of the weak, the disabled; what sets us apart from animals; it also ensures, maybe as an unintended side effect, the survival of crazy, dumb people who have simply gone dumb or crazy without any compelling reason, simply because it is possible to live (to survive) that way in modern societies.Humans are hybrids, all are HOMO just like 2500 other mammal species...Exactly. Evolution, The dumb mindless humans breeding with another dumb mindless humans making the offspring even dumber!!!But that's not what Charles Darwin discovered. Somehow the human race is a strange species. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22526 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
The report on a near miss last year has just been issued: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/653775ce26b9b1000faf1dbf/R112023_231023_South_Wingfield.pdf This has distinct shades of a serious accident a few years back: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clapham_Junction_rail_crash In both cases a single person was responsible for ensuring doing a repair/new signal control wiring had been done correctly. The crash at Clapham led to rules about how work was to be carried out by one person and checked by another, and what to do if the checker was not able to be there (simply stated as "report and don't do the job"). Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19396 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13853 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Food and drink deliveriesI love it. I first saw this place few years ago on one of Michael Portillo's Great Railway Journeys series. Grant Darwin NT |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36748 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
+1 as well as a couple of other train fanatic series, ;-)Food and drink deliveriesI love it. Cheers. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36748 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Luckily this 1 was empty and not carrying its usual load. Firefighters control grassfire sparked by coal train derailment in NSW. New South Wales firefighters have controlled a grass fire that was sparked from a coal train that derailed on Wednesday. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Which begs two questions: Did the 'extreme heat event' play any part in causing the derailment? - buckled tracks, etc.? And was the extreme heat event caused by climate change linked to the burning of fossil fuels - like, er, coal? Nature fights back! |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66327 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
California's 2 passenger rail projects, 1 public and 1 private were awarded a grant of about $3.1 Billion each, a passenger rail project in the NC-VA received close to $1 Billion, Alaska received $8.2 Million, Amtrak received $14.9 Million, etc, etc, etc... $8.2 Billion total across 10 projects.
Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13853 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
When a water pipe bursts in your house, it's a problem. But when it happens in a tunnel, then it's a big problem. Flooded UK tunnel causes mass train cancellations Eurostar — which runs services from London to Paris, Brussels and Amsterdam — said it cancelled all 41 trains scheduled for Saturday because of the flooding near Ebbsfleet International station in Kent. Grant Darwin NT |
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