Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (2)
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 Siran d'Vel'nahr  Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 
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Greetings, RATS! Dang Windows 10! Now it wants to restart my PC again. Micro$oft really screwed us by taking away our control of updates.:( Well, I guess I'll let it go ahead and hope for the best. If I get refused access to File Explorer again, I'll just uninstall the update again. Maybe Micro$oft will get a clue. Doubt it. :| Have a great day! :) Siran [edit] WOOHOO!!! Install and reboot complete and I have access to File Explorer. I guess the update hiccuped or glitched the first time. :) [/edit] CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 
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After a system crash due to a bad RAM module, I had to repair my Windows 10. But the only repair disk I have was made on Windows 8 which arrived with the computer. So I found myseld back in Windows 8. But the fans making a whirring sound made me check and I found that Windows 8 runs 4 cpu tassk on my AMD A10-6700, while Windows 10 used to run 2 CPU task plus one GPU task. The CPU is sold as having 4 cores, bu the Task Manager says it has two cores and two logical processors, which makes 4. So Windows 8 is doing more work than Windows 10 on the same CPU, with only more noise. Windows 10 was silent. Tullio |
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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
After a system crash due to a bad RAM module, I had to repair my Windows 10. But the only repair disk I have was made on Windows 8 which arrived with the computer. So I found myseld back in Windows 8. But the fans making a whirring sound made me check and I found that Windows 8 runs 4 cpu tassk on my AMD A10-6700, while Windows 10 used to run 2 CPU task plus one GPU task. The CPU is sold as having 4 cores, bu the Task Manager says it has two cores and two logical processors, which makes 4. So Windows 8 is doing more work than Windows 10 on the same CPU, with only more noise. Windows 10 was silent. You can use the Microsoft website to update to Windows 10 still. I went and looked at the specs again. You have a 4 core CPU. You have 2 floating point arithmetic units that are spread between the two. This basically means that if you run 4 CPU threads they run half the speed of the average CPU core for Seti/Boinc calculations. http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-A10-Series%20A10-6700%20-%20AD6700OKA44HL.html You also have an iGPU which lives on your memory bus. This means if the cpus are running flat out the gpu runs much more slowly. Some research from another thread appears to support that you should run 3 out of 4 cores. And run the gpu at "full tilt". Windows 10 might say you have 2 cores and 4 available threads for the cpu. Bottom line is you have upto 4 cpu threads that will run at 50% of the speed if that they would have run at if there had been one floating point unit per core. The newer APU's (the AMD 3 2200G and the AMD 5 2400G) appear to have the same issue with running the iGPU on the same memory bus as the gpu. So I am running my 2400G at 75% of available CPU to maximize the iGPU performance. HTH, Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1
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On my latest HP Omen PC I have a Ryzen 5 1400 with 4 cores and it runs 8 CPU tasks and 1 GPU task on a GTX 1060 with Windows 10 and no noise. Tullio |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21702 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 
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Here's an unwanted bit of frustrating Windows 'random interest'... A business machine running for years, (intentionally) rebooted daily, driving two monitors to work on oversized spreadsheets spread across both monitors and... The automated Windows Update last month switched off the second monitor and disabled one of the motherboard USB hubs :-( A restore to previous restore point didn't get them back. Worse sill, the PC was knocked out for half the working day doing a reinstall... That user was then spitting and cursing to have to work late to catch up... Last week, another update and... The second monitor magically works oncemore... (The onboard USB is still unsupported/disabled.) Ofcause, the management do not wish to pay for Support to take a look because "Windows is supposed to look after itself... Just reboot!"... Sometimes wonder if I should move into politics or pastoral/mental care for easier support work rather than "IT"... Or become a volunteer/Samaritan so as to not need to be paid! And for encore, "fortune" popped up with this beautiful gem: Do you remember when you only had to pay for windows when *you* broke them? -- Noel Maddy IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21702 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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One small improvement to come... Windows 10 Relaxes About External Storage Removal ... Quick removal. This policy manages storage operations in a manner that keeps the device ready to remove at any time. You can remove the device without using the Safely Remove Hardware process. However, to do this, Windows cannot cache disk write operations. This may degrade system performance... Nicely sensible for a change... Next is just to convince some users that yes, really, they need to gain a little understanding and sympathy, and take a little care about how their PC/laptop handles their precious and critical data... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21702 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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Followed by a big demerit: Windows Cumulative Updates Cause ... A Microsoft spokesperson told us that the company is working with its antivirus partners on the issue and "keeping customers updated via the KB articles." ... ... Factories often hang signs declaring "It has been X days since our last accident." Microsoft might want to consider hanging a similar sign that reads "We have released X updates without complaints of serious issues." That sign might be stuck at zero, though, with numerous reports this week claiming that the cumulative updates to Windows 7 and Windows 10 that were released on April 9 have caused serious performance issues for their users... ... Others said their systems froze entirely during the startup process after they installed one of these cumulative updates. The issue appears to affect systems running various antivirus tools... Another one to "watch out" for... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Greetings, Well, once again I had to uninstall update KB4489899. I lost access to File Manager again. Got it back after the update was uninstalled. That tells me there may be something amiss with that update. I will see what the Google Machine may find. ;) Have a great day! :) Siran [edit] I found this website stating problems with the update listed above. [/edit] CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21702 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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More Microsoft Windows 10 'fun': Windows 10 May 2019 Update thwarted by [that supposedly] obscure tech known as 'external storage' ... Microsoft has delicately referred to the issue as "inappropriate drive assignment" in its support article on the matter, using the example of an external device mounted as G: in the existing configuration being reassigned as H:. Yes, it is 2019 and an awful lot of software still depends on drive letters. More worryingly, the software giant warned that the reassignment can also afflict internal drives. As such the update has been blocked from installing, showing the dread "This PC can't be upgraded to Windows 10"... Microsoft fans celebrate the Easter weekend with some Sets-based upsets ... Windows 10 May 2019 Update goes a little wider while 20H1 remains stalled Demonstrating that bravery remains within the bowels of Redmond, Microsoft has lobbed the Windows 10 May 2019 Update at MSDN developers... Another one or few to "watch out" for... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B   Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24929 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 
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Ah drive letters. An issue that all Operating Systems suffer from in this day & age, including Linux. Don't you think it is time the programmers return 2 drive letters (A & B) to the pool? After all, floppy drives are obsolete. |
Bernie Vine  Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328
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Ah drive letters. An issue that all Operating Systems suffer from in this day & age, including Linux. Always have a "B" data drive on my PC's use it as default for pictures and documents.  So "B" is available in Windows |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24929 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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I stand corrected. Thanks for that. Over the years, I've had need for drive letters but windows had A & B unavailable. Just checked via Disk Management & find that both are now available. You learn something new every day. |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Greetings, Well, once again I had to uninstall update KB4489899. It would really, really, really be nice of Micro$oft to give us back full control of updates like we had with Win7. Again, they installed update KB4489899. If only we could blacklist troublesome updates, 90% of the update problems would disappear. ;) I'll see just how long it takes before I have to re-re-re-uninstall KB4489899... again. :| I still have access to File Explorer (not File Manager) after the re-re-re-installation of KB4489899... ;) Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21702 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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Ah drive letters. An issue that all Operating Systems suffer from in this day & age, including Linux. For Linux, nope. In the Linux world, filesystems can be mounted by UUIDs or filesystem labels (or by device location if you really still wish to do that). Most distros default to mounting their filesystems using UUIDs. Hence, no silliness about how the BIOS might order or reorder what disks are seen. (And there has never been a problem for single disks in the first place, Linux very simply and consistently numbers the disk partitions in order.) Note that in Windows you can map drive letters if you so wish... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21702 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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These sorts of profits come from somewhere... Microsoft hits $1 trillion market valuation ... It continues the strong performance seen under boss Satya Nadella, who has spent the past five years trying to lessen the firm's reliance on its once-dominant Windows operating system... ... Microsoft may be best known for its Windows operating system, but it makes more money from its Azure cloud services and Office software package... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
... Microsoft may be best known for its Windows operating system, but it makes more money from its Azure cloud services and Office software package...[/i] The MS Office has always been a "cash cow" even though it wasn't "sexy". Since Amazon makes more money from it's AWS cloud than anything else it sells, it doesn't surprise me that Microsoft's cloud services is doing the same thing. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21702 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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Wow! RAM Space... The final Microsoft frontier?... What OS really needs 32GBytes?! See: The difference between October and May? About 16GB, says Microsoft: Windows 10 1903 will need 32GB of space IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21702 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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And here's one small rationalization for the pain of using passwords... Microsoft: Yo dawg, we heard you liked Windows password expiry policies. So we expired your expiry policy Microsoft has finally decided to get rid of password expiration policies in Windows because forcing people to reset their passwords periodically harms security... At long long last! But still, there still has to be a better way than falsely trusting to using passwords... How so very old and quaint still! IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Wow! Hi Martin, This seems weird, never heard of it before: Microsoft is tight-lipped as to the reasoning behind Windows 10's growing storage needs, but the new "Reserved Storage" feature has been fingered. The function swipes around 7GB (your mileage may vary) of disk space for its own nefarious purposes. Reserved Storage? I like how they end the article: If hardware replacement isn't an option for affected PCs, it might be time to bite the bullet and take a good hard look at some of the lightweight Linux options out there. Have a great day! :) Siran [edit] So... This is what is called Reserved Storage. [/edit] CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Wiggo  Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 37965 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 
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Wow!Are you sure that you know the difference between RAM and storage capacity Martin? Minimum RAM requirements remain 1GB for 32-bit Windows 10 and 2GB for the 64-bit version. The minimum processor speed is also unchanged at 1GHz. Cheers. |
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