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 Siran d'Vel'nahr  Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 
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Hi Siran, Hi IG, No, I think it's Winders 10 blocking CCleaner installation. Avast acquired the company that made CCleaner, Piriform or something like that, and they started bundling Avast AV, Google Chrome, Google Toolbar and other stuff with it. Micro$oft started blocking CCleaner in Winders 10 when they started seeing a bunch of complaints about what Avast was doing. I do NOT trust anyone that bundles crap with a program I want to install. All I want is the program, not any garbage that gets added with it. I discovered a couple years ago that when I installed Avast AV it also installed Google Chrome. I hate Chrome with a passion. I'm starting to hate Google the same way. ;) I dropped Avast right then and there. It's not a new HDD, it's a M.2 NVMe SSD that I will be cloning Winders to and then installing Linux Mint as a dual boot. That way I will run Linux as my main and only use Winders when I do gaming and other stuff not able to on Linux. I did find out the BOINCTasks will run just fine in Wine. So I don't have to run it on Winders. Woohoo!! :) Anyway, I'll be getting the drive and adapter tomorrow. I already have SETI set to No New Tasks. Should be done in about 12 hours. Can't wait to get started. :D Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Dr Who Fan  Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3456 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4
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Siran, Try downloading the "portable" ZIP (no installer) CCleaner version from this page: https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/builds CCleaner - Portable 1) Create a folder/directory named CCleaner from the Root C:\ 2) Unzip the files to that folder using your favorite archive program such as 7Zip or WinRAR. 3) Run CCleaner.exe from that folder as Administrator. |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Siran, Hi Fan, Thanks, but I'm done with doing any more Winders 10 maintenance. Eventually, I will no longer have Winders on this PC, only Linux. Right now, it's only going to be so I can do stuff that I cannot do in Linux yet. Once I figure out how to do everything in Linux it's bye, bye Winders. :) Thanks anyway and have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Greetings, Winders 10 will soon be a thing of the past. Well, at least for everyday main use. It will no longer be running BOINC and SETI. Actually, that ended last night sometime. All I will be doing with it is gaming and a couple other small things. Only until I figure out how to do everything on Linux. Then and only then will Winders 10 be a thing of the past. My cloning and transplant was an unqualified success! The PC is running off the new 1TB M.2 NVMe drive. I'd say it took maybe 1.5 hours total from installing the new drive in the adapter and into the machine and getting it ready with Disk Management, to cloning, to swapping the 2 M.2 drives and booting back up. Next step, tomorrow, install Linux Mint v19.2, codename "Tina", as a dual boot along side Winders 10. Then get BOINC and SETI running on Mint. And, the new PC name will be "Minty_Winders". ;) Until then... Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Keith Myers   Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873
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What kinds of things do you still need Windows for? Games, I assume. Have you looked into installing Wine/Proton yet? Wine allows running your normal Windows applications in Linux and Proton is a compatibility tool of Valve's Steam to allow playing Windows based games. A lot of Proton is ending back in the upstream Wine for future releases. I admit that I have very few old Windows programs that I need to use. BoincTasks is the only one I use regularly. Anything else I have found native Linux applications that do the equivalent of Windows apps. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours   A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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What kinds of things do you still need Windows for? Games, I assume. Have you looked into installing Wine/Proton yet? Wine allows running your normal Windows applications in Linux and Proton is a compatibility tool of Valve's Steam to allow playing Windows based games. A lot of Proton is ending back in the upstream Wine for future releases. HI Keith, I already looked into running BOINCTasks in Wine. That won't be a problem. I have website files, 1000s of them, on a Winders HDD. I'll need to figure out how to migrate them to Linux, plus I have yet to find a really good HTML editor for Linux. I did use one many, many years ago on KUbuntu. I still need to find that too. I have other text files that I modify in Notepad monthly, that's all about getting files migrated. I know Linux can read a Winders disk. What I don't know is if files can be edited on the Winders disk with Linux editing tools. That's why I will still need Winders for a while, plus the gaming. With that, I have the launcher on the system disk and the game files installed on another SSD. It'll be fun, fer sher. ;) I believe I looked into Steam and found they don't have World of Warcraft. Will have to check out Proton... Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Jimbocous   Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1859 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349
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I admit that I have very few old Windows programs that I need to use. BoincTasks is the only one I use regularly. Anything else I have found native Linux applications that do the equivalent of Windows apps.I thought I recalled BoincTasks will run on Linux? Have you ever checked that out?  
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Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873
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I admit that I have very few old Windows programs that I need to use. BoincTasks is the only one I use regularly. Anything else I have found native Linux applications that do the equivalent of Windows apps.I thought I recalled BoincTasks will run on Linux? Have you ever checked that out? No, there is no native Linux BoincTasks. You have to run it through Wine which it does very well. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1859 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349
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I admit that I have very few old Windows programs that I need to use. BoincTasks is the only one I use regularly. Anything else I have found native Linux applications that do the equivalent of Windows apps.I thought I recalled BoincTasks will run on Linux? Have you ever checked that out? Interesting. Strange that Fred mentions it under Linux as an installer option. Guess I misunderstood. Thanks for the clarification ...
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Greetings, Well, in my feeble attempt at gradually weaning myself away from Winders 10, I ran into a snag... Following the steps on installing Linux Mint as a dual boot along side Winders 10, I got to the partitioning section. The directions stated that if you have a minimum of 4 GB RAM there is no need to create a /swap partition. Since I have 32GB I continued on. I created the / (root) partition and using what was left of the free space I created the /home partition. All went well to that point. When I clicked "Continue" to start the install I got a message that stated something like "A EFI partition was not detected, if you continue the PC may not boot." There was nothing about a EFI partition in the directions. So... This morning I re-burned the Mint ISO to the USB flash drive using Rufus. This time, instead of using MBR, I used GPT or whatever it is, "UEFI - (non-CSM)". This is what I have found, so far, on EFI System Partition (ESP). Leave it to Micro$oft to screw with stuff! Am I to assume correctly that my M.2 drive has no EFI Partition since Linux install could not find one? I'm wading into uncharted waters at this stage of the game. Could it be that when I cloned my original M.2 with the Samsung Data Migration software that if did not create the ESP? Part of that article states: GRUB 2 and elilo serve as conventional, full-fledged standalone UEFI boot managers for Linux. Once loaded by a UEFI firmware, they both can access and boot kernel images from all devices, partitions and file systems they support, without being limited to the EFI system partition. I will continue my DuckDuckGo-ing to find out more. Have a great day! :) P.S. This should probably go into a different thread since the topic is running away from Winders 10... ;) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Wiggo  Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 37995 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 
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Siran, the way that I did mine for dual booting was to disconnect my Win9 drives, installed new SSD's on free SATA port, installed Mint to them, reconnected my Win drives and set BIOS to boot from the Linux drives unless I use the F12 key to boot back into Win7 (that way you can avoid any GRUB corruption problems in the future as others have experienced). Cheers. |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Siran, the way that I did mine for dual booting was to disconnect my Win9 drives, installed new SSD's on free SATA port, installed Mint to them, reconnected my Win drives and set BIOS to boot from the Linux drives unless I use the F12 key to boot back into Win7 (that way you can avoid any GRUB corruption problems in the future as others have experienced). Hi Wiggo, Here's my problem doing it that way: My motherboard has 2 M.2 slots, 1 running on PCIe the other SATA. The 1 on SATA disables 1 of my SATA ports on the motherboard. My HDD is only used for data storage, downloads, data files, text files, etc. and my other 1TB SSD has my installed Winders games on it so as not to fill up my system drive (PCIe M.2). With my older system, years ago, I did have Linux and Win7 running on the same HDD. I never had a problem with them both living on the same drive. I don't remember if that motherboard BIOS was UEFI or not. It's running my Linux box right now. I could check, but that's not my immediate concern right now. ;) Thanks for the suggestion. If worse comes to worse, then perhaps I will have to do it that way, but for now I want to try getting them to live together on the same M.2 drive. :) Have a great day! :) PS: I need to start a new thread and get a moderator to move these non-Winders 10 posts to it. After I try my next Linux install. ;) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Gary Charpentier    Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31258 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32
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Try this. Set the BIOS to legacy mode only (no UEFI), then boot the linux install disk. It shouldn't look for the UEFI then, but who knows. |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Try this. Set the BIOS to legacy mode only (no UEFI), then boot the linux install disk. It shouldn't look for the UEFI then, but who knows. Hi Gary, I created a new thread for this topic. I will check my BIOS to see about legacy mode. I didn't see anything like that the last few times I was in it during this event. Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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IntenseGuy Send message Joined: 25 Sep 00 Posts: 190 Credit: 23,498,825 RAC: 9
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/09/10/microsoft-windows-10-update-problem-red-screen-warning-upgrade-windows-10/amp/ Windows 10 problems have been coming thick and fast in recent months and Microsoft has been struggling to keep up. And now one particularly troublesome update has struck again. SETI@home classic workunits 103,576 SETI@home classic CPU time 655,753 hours |
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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
So far, the advice and methods for controlling Windows 10 Pro updates to slow them "way down", have been working (waiting 6+ months). I haven't seen hide nor hair of everything you have been writing about. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21704 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 
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This one has been a long time for the borkage to be admitted. No fix until... Microsoft Suggests Workaround for Broken Windows 10 Audio (Updated) Updated, 9/15/19, 10am PT: Microsoft officially acknowledged the audio issues caused by the KB4515384 cumulative update on its support website. It offered a workaround for affected users, which we have added to the "How to Fix" section below. Note that this is merely supposed to mitigate the issue; Microsoft expects to have a real fix in late September... Is Windows developing to be ever yet more unmaintainable?... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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This one has been a long time for the borkage to be admitted. No fix until... Hi Martin, Perhaps this video will help to explain the whys and hows of Micro$oft and Winders 10. I have recently moved everything but gaming over to Linux Mint. And until Micro$oft comes out with their monthly service fee to continue to use Winders 10, I will continue to do my gaming on it. I don't even have to convert my data drive to the Linux file system to work with my many files I do each month. Linux will just DO IT! I read that with Winders you need to install extra software to be able to work with files on a Linux file system. :) Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21704 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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Time to UPGRADE! Microsoft issues emergency patch for Explorer browser ... emergency update for its Internet Explorer browser to fix a bug that cyber-thieves are known to be exploiting... booby-trapped webpages harbouring malicious code that infects visitors. In a description of the problem, Microsoft said versions nine to 11 were vulnerable... the severity of the problem and the fact that it was being abused led it to issue a rare emergency patch. Statistics suggest just over 8% of people are still using Internet Explorer... Time to move onwards to something better? Or still trapped or entrapped??... IT is what we make it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Phil Burden Send message Joined: 26 Oct 00 Posts: 264 Credit: 22,303,899 RAC: 0
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Time to UPGRADE! Haven't used Mickeysoft Explorer since well before Win 7 P. |
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