A candidate speaks (on the record, BBC Radio 4):

Tory leadership contest: Cleverly says no deal better than no Brexit

Not delivering Brexit at all would be "significantly more damaging" than no deal, Conservative leadership candidate James Cleverly has said.

Not comparing like with like: 'no deal' would be damaging to the country at large, 'no Brexit' would be damaging to the Conservative party. Only a politician could say that Party is more important than Country.

Boris Johnson has been ordered to appear in court.

According to the lawsuit, Johnson should have deliberately lied when, during the Brexit campaign, he claimed that the cost of EU membership was £ 350 million per week.
Marcus Ball, who has crowdfunded more than £200,000 for a private prosecution, presented his case at Westminster magistrates court last week and on Wednesday, 29 May, District Judge Margot Coleman ruled that the private prosecution can go forward.
​Judge Coleman said: "The allegations which have been made are unproven accusations and I do not make any findings of fact. Having considered all the relevant factors I am satisfied that this is a proper case to issue the summons as requested for the three offences as drafted. The charges are indictable only. This means the proposed defendant will be required to attend this court for a preliminary hearing, and the case will then be sent to the Crown Court for trial. The charges can only be dealt with in the Crown Court."

This is going to be an interesting one to watch, regardless of your views on the motives of the accuser. British courts don't like dishonesty in the political classes: an MEP was jailed for 5 years in 2015, for this same offence of 'misconduct in public office' (expenses fraud), and Jonathan Aitken - a former cabinet minister - was jailed for 18 months in 1999 for perjury.

But the senior British courts also move slowly. They have the opportunity to hear this case during the Trinity term (4 June to 31 July 2019), but I think it's unlikely they'll move that quickly. The next opportunity will be in the Michaelmas term (1 October to 20 December).

By that time, the conservative party leadership election and the party conference season will be over. There's a very real possibility that the by-then Prime Minister of the country could be sent to prison and automatically expelled from the House of Commons.

And you thought Donald Trump was a disruptor?

(mind you, I know where Boris Johnson could go for his holidays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tlW4EQIFr4)

And you thought Donald Trump was a disruptor?
(mind you, I know where Boris Johnson could go for his holidays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tlW4EQIFr4)

Hehe:)
The UK actually paid closer to £250 million a week after the rebate.
Boris seem to "forget" that fact.
Anyway Boris is more funnier than Trump:)
Here is "Boris the Documentary"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oqeKgOUB28

That's me dead in the water then...
...not that I give a s... .

Sajiq Khan's response: "We are proudly the English capital, a European city and a global "financial"hub."

London no longer an English city

British politics today
Never like Campbell as he kissed Blair's ass every chance he got. Saying that I have to agree with Tom Watson. Everyone has done tactical voting at least once in their lives, including serving politicians which is confirmed in the report.

London no longer an English city

"John Cleese criticised for saying London is 'no longer an English city'"
I wonder what he mean since London was to me in many places like going to countries like India and Pakistan.
That was already more than 40 years ago when I was there the first time.
Oh. Do I hear some Basil-isms and Fawlty Brexit?
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-markets-are-terrified-of-a-fawlty-brexit-2016-10-07

At Fawlty Towers the orange juice is warm, the radiators are cold, and the restaurant cannot serve an American visitor with a Waldorf salad because “we’re fresh out of waldorf.”
Leaving the EU, Britain may go back to the days when nothing worked

Leaving the EU, Britain may go back to the days when nothing worked

It was U.S., European and Japanese investment banks, and bankers, that transformed the City of London from a stuffy and inebriated backwater to a global powerhouse.

Wasn't it banks that caused the global financial meltdown in 2008 because of their greed? Marketwatch forget that did they?

The global financial meltdown in 2008 didn't hit our Nordic countries so much.
Much worse was the financial meltdown in 1994 that made our countries "poor" as the rest of Europe.

Then you'll love this clip. :-)
The German Empire, because that's what the EU is
Thank you Tucker Carlson. :-)

I think all politicians should take USSS agent Clint Hill's advice to heart...

You learn a hell of a lot more from listening than you do from talking.

Tucker Carlson, Fox News is the same cr*p as Russian Margarita Simonyan, RT and Sputnik.
Always the same narrative that the EU is bad and we who live here doesn't know our best interest.
They exaggerate the whole thing. How hard is that to understand?

Tucker Carlson, Fox News is the same cr*p as Russian Margarita Simonyan, RT and Sputnik.
Always the same narrative that the EU is bad and we who live here doesn't know our best interest.
They exaggerate the whole thing. How hard is that to understand?

I was going to say it that belongs here https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81035

While I consider Roger Ailes & Fox one of (if not THE) worst things to happen to the US in the past 30 years.... I've already seen quite a few clips of Tucker in moments of unexplainable, unexpected, and downright creepy monologues where he gets things shockingly right. Joke on the interwebs now is that "even a stopped clock...".

I haven't watched the video yet, but since it's Sirius that's posting it... I bet my SETI credits this is exactly one of those Tucker monologues! :)

(come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I've posted an example of him completely agreeing with AOC!)

AaaaaaaaaaHaha!! OK so it's an interview not a monologue but whatever....

Here's what the WinterKnights of the world don't understand.....

Sure you can hate Tucker and sure you can hate Nigel. No problem. Fair enough.

The problem however arises when these people are right. And right they both are here unfortunately. So what now?
It's Nigel's, Boris's, whoever's fault!
:)
Sorry that's not how it works.

I'll be honest however and say that I am a bit shocked that the land of Churchill & Thatcher doesn't have a single politician to say:
Right! We've ripped off the band-aid, yeah it's gonna hurt... now let's make the best of this!
Yet the idiots you guys have in power just want to prolong the suffering :(

If it's any consolation, most countries on most days would be chasing their tails equally dumbfounded :)

Because politicians.

Tucker Carlson, Fox News is the same cr*p as Russian Margarita Simonyan, RT and Sputnik.
Always the same narrative that the EU is bad and we who live here doesn't know our best interest.
They exaggerate the whole thing. How hard is that to understand?

I was going to say it that belongs here https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81035

You're both wrong in this case. Fake news it is not but fact. For the past decade at least Merkel & other German officials having been saying this: "For us, Europe is not only our destiny but also our desire. It is the lesson we learnt. Please understand for us Europe is much more than a currency or a single market... It is a political union we want."
Certainlyy looks like empire building, doesn't it.

I haven't watched the video yet, but since it's Sirius that's posting it... I bet my SETI credits this is exactly one of those Tucker monologues! :)

Thanks Alex, had a good chuckle on seeing that. :-)
What I am finding is that many from the top to the bottom are failing to comprehend an important distinction.
One can be Pro-Europe BUT Anti-EU. Take the US, 50 states - DO they all have the same sales tax ? Do all 50 offer the same tax breaks?

I was going to say it that belongs here https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81035

You're both wrong in this case. Fake news it is not but fact. For the past decade at least Merkel & other German officials having been saying this: "For us, Europe is not only our destiny but also our desire. It is the lesson we learnt. Please understand for us Europe is much more than a currency or a single market... It is a political union we want."
Certainlyy looks like empire building, doesn't it.

Oh Master China, may we please have a barrel of heating oil to stay warm this winter? Oh Master China may we have a kilo of rare earth so we can keep our factories open? Maybe you should think if you need an empire.

Oh Master Putin, can you re-open your oil & gas pipelines so we can keep European homes warm & factories running. :-)

Time for some chuckles. :-)

Trump

Duncan-Smith

Hammond

Javid says "Nein, Nein, Nein"

Trump says "Ja, Ja, Ja"

If only similar cases could take place in the US. Boris Johnson, favorite to be Britain's next PM, to face court for alleged Brexit lies

The lie.