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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
One surprise to many EU expats living in Britain is that they have to apply for permanent residence permit again. One from Denmark complained who has been to married to a Scot and lived in Scotland almost 70 years together have to do that. Come to think about my sister who now has lived in England for about 50 years. I wonder if my nephew has to do that as well who was born in England but not being a British citizen. Most likely they all will be allowed to stay but who knows... |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14672 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
In that context, scrutiny of the Identity Cards Act 2006 is relevant. The Conservative/Liberal Democrat Coalition formed after the 2010 general election announced that the ID card scheme would be scrapped. The Identity Cards Act was repealed by the Identity Documents Act 2010 on 21 January 2011, and the cards were invalidated with no refunds to purchasers. Foreign nationals from outside the European Union, however, continue to require an ID card for use as a biometric residence permit under the provisions of the UK Borders Act 2007 and the Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Act 2009.I suspect that in due course, foreign nationals from outside our much-reduced little Union of Kingdoms may face the same requirement. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14672 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Erskine May 1 - Theresa May 0 Third Brexit vote must be different John Bercow has ruled out another vote on the government's previously rejected Brexit agreement if the motion remains "substantially the same". |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Does Sweden sell anything to or buy anything from the UK?Of course we do. Especially services. Something that always is forgotten in the debate. Both Swedish imports of services and goods amounted to SEK 62 billion each in 2016, and the UK thus placed itself in the first and fifth places on the list of the most important dispatching countries for Swedish imports. This means that 12% of service imports and 5.2% of goods imports in Sweden come from the UK. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30910 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Erskine May 1 - Theresa May 0 A single man will force a hard exit. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14672 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
A single man will force a hard exit.A single man is attempting to ensure that a profoundly un-democratic executive has to operate by democratic rules, not by bullying and bribery. I actually agree with that aim. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Good post. However: Before concluding, I would also add that the roots of the EU was first the European Coal and Steel Community, then the European Economic Community,. This name was first proposed as the name for a post-WW2 means to control Europe in 1942 by the Nazis in Berlin, they called it Europaische Wirtschaffgeseilschaft, which you guessed it, means European Economic Community in German, because the Nazis thought they were going to win. It later was renamed the European Union.It may be that they used that thought/idea BUT IT IS NOT the roots of the EU. That is down to the following men: Sir Arthur Salter Jean Monnet practically 2 decades earlier. As to what made the EU it is today is all down to: A failed Italian communist Suggested reading for a better understanding of the EU: Sir Arthur Salter - The United States of Europe 1933 The Great Deception 2005 - Updated 2016 |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30910 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
A single man will force a hard exit.A single man is attempting to ensure that a profoundly un-democratic executive has to operate by democratic rules, not by bullying and bribery. You actually believe that there is any other deal out there? I'm sorry but your country is being told to sit on it and rotate. EU doesn't think they need you, and are going to use you as an example to bully every other member state to never think of leaving. So sorry, but the details on how to leave should have been negotiated before you made the decision to leave. Or do you like signing blank documents? You should: 1) Call a halt 2) Negotiate a deal 3) Put the deal to a vote of the people 4) Implement if yes |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
You can't deal with unelected bureaucrats as they'll keep hammering you until they get the decision they want. Just look to Maastricht & Lisbon for the evidence of that. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30910 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
You can't deal with unelected bureaucrats as they'll keep hammering you until they get the decision they want. Just look to Maastricht & Lisbon for the evidence of that. That is the only people you can make a deal with on the EU side. Didn't you know this before you voted to exit? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I did which is why sod any deal, just leave. Show the bumblings that their slice off the gravy train is heavily diminished. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Strange question.You can't deal with unelected bureaucrats as they'll keep hammering you until they get the decision they want. Just look to Maastricht & Lisbon for the evidence of that. The Brexit referendum was now almost three years ago that said Britain should leave the EU. But the British government still cannot get an agreement in the House of Commons what to do! They want some deal that as far I know the EU has already agreed to. Still the British government cannot get an agreement in the House of Commons what to do! But this leak is interesting. The EU's 'SECRET' Brexit Negotiation EXPOSED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZ0xISi40E |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30910 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I did which is why sod any deal, just leave. Show the bumblings that their slice off the gravy train is heavily diminished. Or perhaps highly enriched. Who know what their plans are. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14672 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I'm sorry but your country is being told to sit on it and rotate. EU doesn't think they need you, and are going to use you as an example to bully every other member state to never think of leaving. So sorry, but the details on how to leave should have been negotiated before you made the decision to leave. Or do you like signing blank documents?And I think they're right to do so. Their position is vastly more coherent than ours. We've messed up, badly. You should:Agree 100%. I think I posted something almost like that. Only additional point: (2) needs to be done by a Government of National Unity, with a different chief negotiator. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Starting all over? And how many years will that take?I'm sorry but your country is being told to sit on it and rotate. EU doesn't think they need you, and are going to use you as an example to bully every other member state to never think of leaving. So sorry, but the details on how to leave should have been negotiated before you made the decision to leave. Or do you like signing blank documents?And I think they're right to do so. Their position is vastly more coherent than ours. We've messed up, badly. I know that the British people is sick tired of this. The EU as well. Make your mind up. Stay or go! |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14672 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Make your mind up. Stay or go!We don't have a choice, Our supposedly democratic, elected, Government have decided that they know everything, and will decide every detail for us. Not even a confirmatory vote. The only mind they've made up is the collective mind of the thinking classes. Who think they're crackers. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
I meant "British government. Make your mind up. Stay or go!" not the British people that already had there saying that Britain should leave the EU, deal or no deal or whatever. And I say again they said it almost three years ago. Sigh... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
They can't even agree amongst themselves, what chance have they got to persuade parliament? odd-DEURRRR, odd-DEURRRRR! He also told Guardian newspaper he's "always been passionate about Parliament", adding: "I've always believed strongly it could do a better job." |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Oh dear :-) Mr Tusk said he believed all 27 members, who must sign off on the extension, would agree but it depended on a "positive" vote in the House of Commons.Delay possible but not beyond 30 June |
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