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BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
@All (having this screensaver/Win10 issue and wanting to investigate) What happens if you manually start SETI@home screensaver? - While some SETI@home CPU task is running (you see process in memory with name like setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe) Go to SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) and start the SETI@home screensaver, name like: setigraphics_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe  - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)  |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Double-clicking on the graphics executable results in a black box (the command prompt) opening and closing immediately. |
GateMan Send message Joined: 10 Jun 12 Posts: 3 Credit: 2,007,738 RAC: 0 |
Me Too Same thing; Gess; was fine before the end all 10 developers upgrade. now a mess A quad4 and a 2 and Err. Oh ya Nvidia 1050tis new drivers and err The 4 wont seem to go. Its a pain HUH Install Re in and gawd I thought it was over years ago. But you know what; we will get it working again because we do not quit. That's what we do. And I was just a dumb plumber-lol ;G |
GateMan Send message Joined: 10 Jun 12 Posts: 3 Credit: 2,007,738 RAC: 0 |
Me to Gess. Did all the NVidia Drivers clean; still sits there not crunching on my box. S saver will pop and go away. Now my other I did not let it do the new Developers cut ; But its a Intel cpu and the Quad4 is AMD ; HMM. Well if you figure it please let us know.. Thank you for the input; G |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Double-clicking on the graphics executable results in a black box (the command prompt) opening and closing immediately. It is not really "command prompt" but the window of setigraphics itself. If you want to play a little more (you can do the same on a "bad" and "good" Windows 10 system to see the difference): For the next test I used v7 files as I have them, as you guess your filenames will be a little different. I used Process Explorer to monitor and kill processes. A) - Snooze BOINC - Make an empty directory (e.g. ...\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\SetiGraphicsTest\) - Copy in it setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe - Start it (setigraphics*.exe) On a "good" system (Windows XP) I see this and it stays open until I close it: - Close setigraphics*.exe (if needed) File stderrgfx.txt is created (the last 2 lines appear only after I close the window of setigraphics): 14:27:47 (3412): Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode 14:27:47 (3412): Starting graphics application. Warning: unable to load JPEG file. File size=0 Failed to load 'user_logo'. Failed to load 'background'. 14:33:03 (3412): Close event (WM_CLOSE) detected, shutting down. 14:33:03 (3412): Shutting down graphics application. B) - Copy 3 additional files: setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll work_unit.sah     (this is any WU file ~356 KB renamed to work_unit.sah) - Start setiathome_*.exe Wait 1-2 minutes and see how some 4-5 files are created. - Start setigraphics*.exe - Close setigraphics*.exe (if needed) - Kill setiathome_*.exe (by Process Explorer) - UnSnooze BOINC  - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)  |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Following those same steps on my Windows 10 Creators Update system still shows the application terminating. I see a file was created named stderrgfx.txt. I'm seeing entries like this: 17:34:17 (16224): Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode 17:34:17 (16224): Starting graphics application. Warning: unable to load JPEG file. File size=0 Failed to load 'user_logo'. Failed to load 'background'. Warning: unable to load JPEG file. File size=0 Failed to load 'user_logo'. Failed to load 'background'. shared memory segment missing |
Mikenstein Send message Joined: 6 Sep 15 Posts: 8 Credit: 10,747,261 RAC: 0 |
YUP! Those who fail to remember the past are DOOMED to repeat it! |
Mikenstein Send message Joined: 6 Sep 15 Posts: 8 Credit: 10,747,261 RAC: 0 |
Try downloading Slim Drivers. It is a free updater. If you do make sure you set it to back up your previous drivers. Then once I get any and all driver updates I uninstall it, and also go into the registry and remove all traces of the program. I likes to run in the back ground and gets annoying so it goes bye-bye. And no it won't fix the screen saver problem! Those who fail to remember the past are DOOMED to repeat it! |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
I see a file was created named stderrgfx.txt. I'm seeing entries like this: That is the problem. Now someone who makes applications and knows enough about programming in Windows have to figure-out why "shared memory segment missing" on Windows 10 Creators Update. (is this a bug made by Microsoft or is it some new change in Windows, e.g. "for security"?) ("shared memory" is used so the applications' screensaver can get data from the running application) Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
I think better to re-route this question on BOINC forums where those who developed this particular interface (between science app and graphics app) can see issue. SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
I wouldn't get my hopes up... I just ran the setigraphics_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe standalone on my Windows 7 and got the exact same outcome from stderrgfx.txt: 23:31:02 (4416): Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode 23:31:02 (4416): Starting graphics application. Warning: unable to load JPEG file. File size=0 Failed to load 'user_logo'. Failed to load 'background'. Warning: unable to load JPEG file. File size=0 Failed to load 'user_logo'. Failed to load 'background'. shared memory segment missing Meaning that the shared memory segment missing message isn't something that prohibits the screen saver from showing the graphics in Windows 10 CU exclusively. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Linking here some other threads about the same problem: "Screen saver not working under Windows 10": https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81343 "Boinc screensaver & Creators Update (Microsoft, Win10)" http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=11560 on GitHub: "Windows 10 Creators Update broke BOINC screen saver" https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/1859 Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
HPetite Send message Joined: 24 Mar 08 Posts: 1 Credit: 2,435,086 RAC: 0 |
I think the latest Windows 10 Creators fix KB4020102 resolves this. Since the Creators upgrade (1703) was installed I was having the same problem as everyone else up until today when I installed this latest fix and now the BOINC screen saver is working again. This fix may have been in the pipeline for a few days but I noticed that it kept failing to install on my system so I did a clean shutdown and reboot which allowed the install to proceed. My apologies for imprecise information but I neglected to write down the fix failure details and error code but it had something to do with some process already in progress, hence my decision to reboot. With this fix installed, my build level is now 15063.332 HPetite |
Amtronic Send message Joined: 26 Jun 06 Posts: 51 Credit: 1,374,701 RAC: 4 |
The newest win10 update, 1703.15063.332 appears to have resolved the BOINC/SETI screensaver problem. The newest releases, one for x86(32bit) and one for x64(64bit) are located at http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4020102 Please insure you choose the correct version for your system. As per the usual SOP a couple of reboots are required to get all the pieces in place. I would also suggest that you insure you have the latest video drivers from your respective brand vendors as that seems to be a common problem cause for other issues. Helping where I can. Hindering everywhere else. |
ronssito Send message Joined: 8 Feb 00 Posts: 19 Credit: 43,465,609 RAC: 63 |
boinc screen saver is now compatible on 2 of my laptops will update to creators on other machines |
Patrik Zori Send message Joined: 5 Jan 13 Posts: 1 Credit: 34,605 RAC: 0 |
I can confirm that update package KB4020102, released on May 26 fixes the problem. It's interesting to note however that this update does NOT show up in Windows Update in Settings; you have to download it manually from the Microsoft Update Catalog. |
EHM-1 Send message Joined: 26 Sep 99 Posts: 15 Credit: 868,840 RAC: 0 |
Just downloaded and installed the update (531 MB for 64-bit) and the screensaver function seems to be restored. Thanks all, thanks to Patrik for the link! |
JohnTod Send message Joined: 6 Jul 99 Posts: 2 Credit: 2,901,037 RAC: 1 |
Yes. Reinstalling Windows10 update kb4020102 fixed the problem for me!!!! |
River Song Send message Joined: 30 Jul 15 Posts: 268 Credit: 1,735,966 RAC: 0 |
BOINC SCREEN SAVER PEOBLEM Regarding the newest version of Win 10, release 1703 15063.13 is not engaging the BOIC screensaver. Thursday June 8 2017, 12:57 PM Hi Amtronic, I first posted this problem on the same day that up-date was released, and, as of yesterday, there has still been no fix for it. The BOINC Screen Saver's "noise box," my phrase describing the nicely detailed graphic image that, in a rotating display, along with other pages, is KAPUT. Well, the screen saver DOES work, but the "noise box" requiring the graphics, doesn't work. I asked about and was told that the BOINC graphics display can only be fixed by M$, i.e., Microsoft themselves, and, in the weeks since that "update" they have NOT fixed it. They MAY not even KNOW about the problem? The person who told me M$ had to FIX it seemed vague and didn't tell me WHO at M$ was going to fix it, and when? Oh, BTW, I should mention that the BOINC Screen Saver, in its entirety, with the "noise box," still works FINE on my older Win 7 PC. It's just Win 10 that is all screwed up. If YOU can find out who the "fixee" is, please let me and all in the group KNOW, huh? In the meantime, I'm running the BOINC saver, sans the "noise box. I created a shortcut to the .exe file for it on my desktop. When I leave my 24/7 Win 10 PC, I manually click on the shortcut to bring up BOINC, and then click it to save the screen to my taskbar when I return to work. It is better than NOTHING, vut I greatly MISS the beautiful "noise box." Good luck in trying to push along a fix! Stay here on Earth. It's the only planet with DARK CHOCOLATE !! River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth) "Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO" |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
It has been fixed by Microsoft however: If you read some of the the posts is does say This update does NOT show up in Windows Update in Settings; you have to download it manually from the Microsoft Update Catalog. The link is HERE Make sure to download the correct version. |
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