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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
The Netherlands will soon make a decision to set up an international tribunal into the crash of the MH17 passenger liner downed over Ukraine's Donbas in the summer of 2014, Rtlnieuws.nl reports. https://www.unian.info/world/2004354-mh17-intl-tribunal-may-be-set-up-in-netherlands.html As always Russia will deny Russian involvement in the atrocity and stall the legal procedures so they will not participate in the tribunal. |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
Two Colonels of Ukrainian intelligence agencies was killed in Ukraine - http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/prezident-poproshavsya-iz-zagiblimi-ukrayinskimi-geroyami-ro-42126 |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Two Colonels of Ukrainian intelligence agencies was killed in Ukraine - Yes. Was the perpetrators pro-Ukraine or pro-Russia? No need to answer. |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
Live flight tracker: most of air-companies prefer to fly around borders of Ukraine: https://www.flightradar24.com/49.81,36.66/5 It's very informative. :-) |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Live flight tracker: most of air-companies prefer to fly around borders of Ukraine: https://www.flightradar24.com/49.81,36.66/5 Of course. Who wants to fly over territories in Eastern Ukraine and being shot down by Russian BUK's ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOwzw1FE2nI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKNx0-6bUbI |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
Live flight tracker: most of air-companies prefer to fly around borders of Ukraine: https://www.flightradar24.com/49.81,36.66/5 Also, it's noticeable that many international flights via the territory of Russia passes very close to Eastern Ukraine, but the territory of Central and Western Ukraine which is very far from Eastern Ukraine, is almost free of flights too. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11408 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Np one wants to fly over a war zone, duh? Who is supplying the missiles? Surely not Great Britain or Spain. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Live flight tracker: most of air-companies prefer to fly around borders of Ukraine: https://www.flightradar24.com/49.81,36.66/5 LOL:) Look at Northern Scandinavia. Almost free of flights as well. Now in Finland they actually have former Russian BUK's. Perhaps that's why there are no Russian flights over Finland right now. https://corporalfrisk.com/tag/buk/ |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Np one wants to fly over a war zone, duh? Who is supplying the missiles? Surely not Great Britain or Spain. Actually there have been discussions about why Ukraine let so many international flights fly over Eastern Ukraine in a war situation. There where many other planes flying over there the same day MH17 was shot down. |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
Ukrainian specialists of aviation and rockets industry now work for China - https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvpk-news.ru%2Farticles%2F38005&edit-text= |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Ukrainian specialists of aviation and rockets industry now work for China - https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvpk-news.ru%2Farticles%2F38005&edit-text= Are you sure? On June 29, the Chinese Defense Ministry confirmed that China and Russia has signed a roadmap on military cooperation for 2017-2020. http://thediplomat.com/2017/06/china-and-russia-sign-military-cooperation-roadmap/ Chinese President Xi Jinping said bilateral relations “are now the best ever†during his visit in Russia. http://thediplomat.com/2017/07/russia-china-relations-reach-a-new-high/ An example of Ukrainian aviation. An-225 Mriya has visited Sweden, Arlanda airport twice, 2010 and 2012. The aircraft is capable of transporting the Russian spaceshuttle Buran. Well, Buran was cancelled many years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-225_Mriya#/media/File:Antonov_An-225.jpg Nice colors:) |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
China and Russia are not, and have never been, friends. I don't understand your point. Firstly, that's not correct, for example China was close ally and friend of USSR in 1950th years. Secondly, that information was not about Russia but about Ukrainian specialists who help modernize the Chinese military. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
...Ukrainian specialists who help modernize the Chinese military. My guess is that China are very interested of IT Services from Ukraine. Not so much of Sunflower products. Oh. Wrong pic... I meant this. Ops. Wrong again. Sigh. Here it is. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
China has always believed that Russia is illegally occupying Siberian China. Hmm. Russia "occupied" Siberia in the 17th century. Maybe China want to reclaim territories from that time just as Putin want to reclaim old territories in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Siberia While the Russians continue to migrate from the Siberian and Far Eastern Federal Districts to Western Russia, the Siberian cities attract labour (legal or illegal) from the Central Asian republics and from China. While the natives are aware of the situation, in Western Russia myths about thousands and millions of Chinese living in the Transbaikalia and the Far East are widespread. But maybe "Beijing could use Russia's own strategy: hand out passports to sympathizers in contested areas, then move in militarily to "protect its citizens." " As Finns say to Russians in the sauna. "Close the door when you leave. It starts getting luke warm in here". |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
STRANA.UA - The belligerents in the Donbass have established a constant contact through the front line, congratulate each other on their birthday, and agree on local armistices. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fstrana.ua%2Farticles%2Fistorii%2F85001--allo-dnr-eto-vsu-kak-slyshno-priem.html&edit-text=[/url] |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
When is Russia going to leave Occupied Siberia? Sorry, I know about some of ex-Mexican territories that now is a part of USA, but I don't know about "Occupied Siberia". Aborigines of Siberia live everywhere in Siberia, not in reservation, unlike USA. The phrase about "Occupied Siberia" has sense no more than the "Occupied USA" or "Occupied Canada". |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
When is Russia going to leave Occupied Siberia? Well, about 1/3 of the 'lower 48' land area of the USA used to be part of Mexico. The USA got most of this territory (except Texas) from Mexico as part of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo of 1848 to end the 'U.S.-Mexican War' (1846-1848). Something about Mexico wanting the occupying US Army out of their capital. The part in white on this map. IMO, Siberia is part of Russia just as the Southwest is part of the USA. Native Americans... Yes, SOME live on Reservations, many don't. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
STRANA.UA - The belligerents in the Donbass have established a constant contact through the front line, congratulate each other on their birthday, and agree on local armistices. Russia has only moved to Siberia because there was plenty of room there at the time and lots of natural resources. For all I know the indigenous people there has not complained and most likely it is a win/win situation. Very much like Sweden's "occupation" of Finland and Estonia many years ago:) Oh. Another reason:) By 2080 Siberia to become 'the go-to place to live due to climate change'. http://siberiantimes.com/science/opinion/features/by-2080-siberia-to-become-the-go-to-place-to-live-due-to-climate-change/ |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
I was referencing from China's point of view. A big part of Kazakhstan (and all territory of Mongolia) also is present in some China books and maps as the "temporarily lost territories". So, when the Kazakhstan going to leave occupied territories? Also, China never defined on the historical maps all territory of Siberia and Russian Far East as ex-Chinese territories, only for a some south part. And China not declare similar pretensions officially at present. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Clyde, Hmm... The 'Texas Revolt'... ROFL It was a bit more widespread. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Political_divisions_of_Mexico_1836-1845_(location_map_scheme).svg Republic of Texas Republic of the Rio Grande Republic of Yucatan etc... https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
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