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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30903 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I am now 100% sure that in 100 years Trump will be an answer to at least one trivia question about the POTUS. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
...her exact words were, "you have to have a public position and a private position" or something like that... Bernie a Democrat? ROFL... That is worse than calling Trump a Republican. Both recently joined their respective parties, but Bernie joined the Democrat party barely in time to campaign as a Democrat. There were lawsuits about it between him and the Democrat National Committee. Prior to 2015, Bernie was an independent and a self-described socialist. That said, if Bernie had gotten the Democrat nomination, it would have been a VERY interesting election. A DINO vs. a RINO. Both populists campaigning against the 'Establishment', using VERY similar campaign rhetoric (the 'Working Class' is getting screwed by the Establishment). Bernie was a socialist/independant that switched to the Democrats in 2015 to run for President. Trump started out a Democrat, then switched parties a few times (Reform Party -- he left them after the start of his Presidential campaign because some of the Reform Party were quite... Racist, then a couple of stints in the Republican Party. Both were not loyal members of the Party they campaigned for President in during the 2015/2016 campaign. Neither could be considered in any way, shape, form, or fashion to be part of their Parties' 'Establishment'. If the Democrats had seen which way the political winds were blowing, and ditched the Establishment candidate (H.R. Clinton) in favor of the non-Establishment B. Sanders, likely it would be President Sanders now. A large enough number of Democrats voted for the non-Establishment Republican candidate Trump to give him the election. A Sanders candidacy would have kept those voters Democrat, and likely drawn enough Republican anti-Trump support to win by somewhat of a landslide. The Democrat Party's leadership 'Trumped' themselves by continuing to support Establishment Hillary. As I have said before, if I HAD to make a choice between Trump, Clinton, and Sanders... If I HAD to choose one of those three... I would rank them in order of preference: 1. Sanders -- left wing populist, 2. Trump -- centrist populist, 3. Clinton -- Establishment centrist... Now then, right vs. left... Right and Left may be polar opposites, but morally and politically they are equivalent. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
Nice post MK. And yes I am aware Bernie was not any more of a Democrat than I am for example. They are the party that overall represents my beliefs more than any of the others, but I am not a democrat outside of being registered as one and typically voting within their ticket. Sanders was my dream candidate, and as such he was also not an establishment democrat. But that is the ticket closest to his beliefs so that's where he ran this time around. [also yes sorry about that url- it's ginormous] #resist |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Nice post MK. If you are registered as a Democrat, doesn't that mean you ARE a Democrat (at least until you change your registration)? In Texas, we do NOT 'register' as a member of any political party. We vote in whichever Primary (but only one of them per Election) we wish to. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
If I could vote in any primary I wanted at will, I'd be registered as independent (unaffiliated). But in NY you can only vote in a primary within your registered party, which is why I am a registered dem. #resist |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
The Democrat Party's leadership 'Trumped' themselves by continuing to support Establishment Hillary. The Democratic Party leadership may have favored Clinton, though that wasn't the reason she became that Party's candidate, it was by winning more primaries than Sanders. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
True story. She did indeed kick his butt in the primaries. But I am curious if he'd have won the nomination even if he had won the primaries? #resist |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Is this for real? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump Christians in the Middle-East have been executed in large numbers. We cannot allow this horror to continue! ...Senators should focus their energies on ISIS, illegal immigration and border security instead of always looking to start World War III. Our country needs strong borders and extreme vetting, NOW. Look what is happening all over Europe and, indeed, the world - a horrible mess! Somebody with aptitude and conviction should buy the FAKE NEWS and failing @nytimes and either run it correctly or let it fold with dignity! On what planet does Trump live at? |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Is this for real? America has elected an Internet Troll for President. Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Is this for real? God Bless America. Statement Regarding Recent Executive Order Concerning Extreme Vetting |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
If I could vote in any primary I wanted at will, I'd be registered as independent (unaffiliated). But in NY you can only vote in a primary within your registered party, which is why I am a registered dem. I know... but it does tend to discourage some rather fun political games that are possible in so-called 'open primary' states such as Texas. Such as: 'Organized effort by one party to vote in the other party's primary for a total loser so that your party's candidate is a shoe-in to win the General Election.'... Loads of fun! https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
If I could vote in any primary I wanted at will, I'd be registered as independent (unaffiliated). But in NY you can only vote in a primary within your registered party, which is why I am a registered dem. Which can go "both" ways. so might it not tend to cancel out, eh? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
If I could vote in any primary I wanted at will, I'd be registered as independent (unaffiliated). But in NY you can only vote in a primary within your registered party, which is why I am a registered dem. Very true, Sarge... That COULD be the reason we ended up with Trump... ROFL. I mean, after all... If it goes both ways, BOTH parties nominate total GOOBERHEADS... Which is pretty much what we got... Trump & Clinton... One way or the other, though... It is the Democrat Party's fault that Trump got Elected. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30903 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
If I could vote in any primary I wanted at will, I'd be registered as independent (unaffiliated). But in NY you can only vote in a primary within your registered party, which is why I am a registered dem. Isn't that exactly why we got tRump and Clinton? |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
If I could vote in any primary I wanted at will, I'd be registered as independent (unaffiliated). But in NY you can only vote in a primary within your registered party, which is why I am a registered dem. No, it was the fault of the people that voted for "45", the Democratic Party had nothing to do with that. Your comment is akin to blaming the victim. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
@Trump. Do you know the REAL threats to American citizens? |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
True story. She did indeed kick his butt in the primaries. But I am curious if he'd have won the nomination even if he had won the primaries? Why do you think 2016 would have been different to 2008? Clinton entered 2008 as the Democratic Party leadership favorite, they changed sides when it became obvious that Obama was going to win the primaries. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Pure political cow feces. Seems you can if you are very selective in your recollections of what happened. Stuff not found on InfoWars. The UN weapons inspectors in Iraq said there were no WMD there; this was countered by Blair's "dodgy dossier" and some evidence that Bush had (some of it manufactured and discredited, like the Uranium cake purchase), and there was the circus of Powell's UN speech where he was given fabricated evidence to help justify the US aggression. Sure, Saddam was nasty and you'd have trouble finding anybody that is not happy he's gone, but WMD was thought to be BS by many before the war, and the "intel community" was, to some degree, giving Bush 43 the answers he wanted - or have you forgotten how quickly after 9/11 Rumsfeld and others started saying "Iraq" and "9/11" in consecutive sentences? ISIS exploded in Syria, and then invaded north western Iraq from their bases there after the withdrawal of US troops on a calendar created under Bush "43" (he signed the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement, committing to a full withdrawal of US troops by the end of 2011) and executed by Obama. Oh, that's right, facts don't matter. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Oh, that's right, facts don't matter. Today we have the fact that there are alternative facts to consider:) Well. I love the smell of cow feces in the morning. |
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