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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
A reused SpaceX rocket carried 10 satellites into orbit from California on Friday, leaving behind a trail of mystery and wonder as it soared into space. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/12/22/spacex-sunset-rocket-launch/[/list] |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36746 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
There are rumors that ZUMA never reached its orbit and may be back on the Earth. No information is coming either from Space X or the 45th Space Wing which launched it. Tullio |
Stargate (SA) Send message Joined: 4 Mar 10 Posts: 1854 Credit: 2,258,721 RAC: 0 |
Due to nature of the payload being top secret it might already be in place doing it's job and to throw off keen eyes told everyone it is lost or crashed, but as far as Space X is concerned there rocket performed as intended and was a perfect launch.. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31002 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
There are rumors that ZUMA never reached its orbit and may be back on the Earth. No information is coming either from Space X or the 45th Space Wing which launched it. More likely second stage reached its contracted position and orientation on time. Customer built mating adapter failed in some way, or the bird was dead out the of box. Second stage performed its planned deorbit burn at the correct time. The customer may have wanted downlink of camera's on the second stage to watch the deploy, but those feeds would not have gone to any console in the normal control room. Obviously when Space-X turned the second stage around for the deorbit burn they would know by the mass of the second stage if the bird deployed. The real answer will come if Space-X gets more classified work. |
JakeTheDog Send message Joined: 3 Nov 13 Posts: 153 Credit: 2,585,912 RAC: 0 |
My guesses are either the satellite did make it to orbit and the owners want to feed misinformation, or the satellite didn't separate from the 2nd stage and it was Northrup Gruman's responsibility. Northrup built the satellite adapter. Some articles are saying because it was so secretive, Northrup mounted and enclosed the satellite to the 2nd stage themselves. Either way, it's bad PR for SpaceX. However, SpaceX is not opening any investigations, and other customers and NASA haven't asked for any. So SpaceX must be pretty confident that their rocket didn't have any problems during the mission. Can't wait for the Falcon Heavy launch. Looks like it will be delayed until February. The static fire was been delayed multiple times. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
SpaceX schedules Feb. 6 target date for Falcon Heavy test launch. The whimsical passenger on the Falcon Heavy’s inaugural test launch is a dose of cross-brand marketing by Musk, who also founded the electric car company Tesla. One of Musk’s used Tesla Roadster sports cars will be mounted inside the Falcon Heavy’s upper shroud, and the rocket will attempt to give it a boost away from Earth and give the automobile enough velocity to escape the planet’s gravitational grasp. Why a car? |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Another useless object in space. They should forbid such a launch, there are already too many old satellites in orbit, plus a Chinese Heavenly Palace ready to reenter the atmosphere (Tiangong-1). Tullio |
Michael Watson Send message Joined: 7 Feb 08 Posts: 1387 Credit: 2,098,506 RAC: 5 |
If I understand correctly, the Falcon Heavy rocket, it all goes as it's supposed to, will boost its Tesla car payload into an independent orbit of the Sun. It's not at all likely to cause any trouble out there. Even Mr. Musk appears to doubt that the rocket will work as planned, and reach space at all. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
It looks like that an amateur astronomer, Scott Tilley, who was searching for the Zuma satellite has instead found an emission which could be that of the IMAGE satellite in high Earth orbit that NASA declared dead in 2005. The Goddard Space Flight Center of NASA is now investigating this emission. I get these news from theregister.co.uk. Tullio To confirm beyond doubt that the satellite is IMAGE, NASA will next attempt to capture and analyze data from the signal. The challenge to decoding the signal is primarily technical. The types of hardware and operating systems used in the IMAGE Mission Operations Center no longer exist, and other systems have been updated several versions beyond what they were at the time, requiring significant reverse-engineering. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31002 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
If I understand correctly, the Falcon Heavy rocket, it all goes as it's supposed to, will boost its Tesla car payload into an independent orbit of the Sun. It's not at all likely to cause any trouble out there. More trash, no matter where it ends up. I do get he needs to test and needs ballast to test. A load of sandbags might be more appropriate than a car. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
SpaceX has sent a GovSat communication satellite in orbit. The first stage was not to be recovered but put to a high thrust return burn and landed in water, where it shall be recovered and towed to a port. Tullio |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
SpaceX Falcon Heavy test flight. A complete success. Awesome. And the Falcon boosters landed simultaneously. And the Tesla Roadster car stereo in stage 2 are now playing Space Oddity like on the ISS some years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36746 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I've been watching that live on TV, amazing. Cheers. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
I've been watching that live on TV... Me too. Reminds me of the good old days and the Gemini and Apollo missions :) |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
According to what I've read the payload is bound for Mars. The payload being Musk's own Tesla sports car. It seems to me that even though there was a high probability of a launch failure there should have been a minimal scientific payload. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Stargate (SA) Send message Joined: 4 Mar 10 Posts: 1854 Credit: 2,258,721 RAC: 0 |
I watched it live and still want to know did the 3rd part land safely at the Sea Platform? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31002 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
According to what I've read the payload is bound for Mars. The payload being Musk's own Tesla sports car. It seems to me that even though there was a high probability of a launch failure there should have been a minimal scientific payload. It isn't going anywhere near Mars. It is going into an elliptical orbit between Earth and Mars. Can't get it near the planet, it hasn't been sterilized. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
I watched it live and still want to know did the 3rd part land safely at the Sea Platform? Apparently it will not land on earth. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/96098852715979571 Upper stage restart nominal, apogee raised to 7000 km. Will spend 5 hours getting zapped in Van Allen belts & then attempt final burn for Mars. Live view of Starman https://youtu.be/aBr2kKAHN6M |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Two of the three main engines on the core rocket failed to relight causing it to crash in the sea. Even so two out of three makes additional missions much cheaper. Gary I never said they were planning to land on Mars. Please quit putting words in my posts. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
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