Point taken, JE is the he, I'll go back and edit the post.

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And the same shadow government JE thinks drove Obama (and they did), also drives the orange guy...

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The is the check off box on the Colorado Income Tax form 104 for 2016 for those who want to pay extra taxes and designate where.

I.....Don't.....Make.....Things......Up.

http://www.tax-rates.org/forms/colorado/form_104

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

The is the check off box on the Colorado Income Tax form 104 for 2016 for those who want to pay extra taxes and designate where.

I.....Don't.....Make.....Things......Up.

That isn't a Federal form 1040 that you claimed had those check boxes, and they are lines not check boxes! The Federal form 1040 does have check boxes - Single, Married, etc. You make stuff up.

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The is the check off box on the Colorado Income Tax form 104 for 2016 for those who want to pay extra taxes and designate where.

I.....Don't.....Make.....Things......Up.

That isn't a Federal form 1040 that you claimed had those check boxes, and they are lines not check boxes! The Federal form 1040 does have check boxes - Single, Married, etc. You make stuff up.

Yes, you have proved that JE is dishonest.

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The is the check off box on the Colorado Income Tax form 104 for 2016 for those who want to pay extra taxes and designate where.

I.....Don't.....Make.....Things......Up.

That isn't a Federal form 1040 that you claimed had those check boxes, and they are lines not check boxes! The Federal form 1040 does have check boxes - Single, Married, etc. You make stuff up.

Yes, you have proved that JE is dishonest.

I forgot, in a sovereign citizen's mind he Federal government doesn't exist.

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Exactly the response I expected from you both, and since your opinion means less to me than the sweat on a flea's butt in South Sudan, it will be noted as such.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Digging up a month-old topic from this thread, I had written about the "far-right" using Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals... due to the News thread on free speech due to the possible unrest in Berkeley because of the planned Ann Coulter visit, while googling for info on what this was about I found this article How Ann Coulter and the Far Right Are Using the Lefty Playbook to Troll Berkeley.

It's worth a read for background on this issue though some may call it a "biased" source...

To clarify my point, it's interesting how the "radical right" and "radical left" end up becoming similar in many ways. This is because it's the "radical" part that ends up defining them. As soon as one is willing to throw away human rights or use violence against persons or their property to accomplish their means, they've lost any moral upper hand they may have had and become mere criminals. (I think that this is also the point that CLYDE has been trying to cryptically make many times, no?)

Regardless of how one feels about John Lennon, he summed it up well... and as of next year, half a century ago!

"You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be
All right, all right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're all doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be
All right, all right, all right
You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow"

Even with the "Chairman Mao" reference, timeless wisdom nonetheless.

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#1 - Its CLYDE, not Clyde.

Rattled your cage has he?

He spelt your name correctly & has no need to shout :-)

Until Mr. Kevvy mentioned her name, no one had posted it in relation to her proposed speech at the University in politics. I find that defines Seti.

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Clyde how is this post germane to Wiggos statement?

betreger...

#1 - Its CLYDE, not Clyde.

#2 - The foundation of "Socialist" and the other persons on the Extreme Right Wing and Extreme Left Wing. Is a belief in a Superior Class, and Right of the Superior Ones to Rule Us. Which will always, after a period of time, Enslave and Impoverish The People. Excepting the Lying, Deranged, and Enslaving Right/Left Wing Ruling Class Leadership. Who will always be wealthy.

Therefore... All beliefs posted by those who have this belief. Must be understood, and exposed.

Have a great day.

CLYDE

Clyde, your statement makes no sense in the context of Wiggo's post, go back to your bridge and collect your thoughts into a cogent form.

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Clyde, your statement makes no sense in the context of Wiggo's post, go back to your bridge and collect your thoughts into a cogent form.

I really don't know why people just won't put 239521 into their ignore list instead of continually replying to the geriatric rantings/ravings of a genuine old loser who thinks that it's fun to bait others, because that's the only reason that he's here for (to bait others and nothing else).

You'll never get anything remotely constructive out of it so why bother taking any notice it? ;-)

Cheers.

You'll never get anything remotely constructive out of it so why bother taking any notice it? ;-

Wiggo, it's sort of like going to the gym and pushing weights or running laps even thought the weights are pretty light weight.

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I also don't believe it's 100% unless your distorting the numbers by saying that a illegal that works is breaking the law


Well, breaking the law makes one a criminal, correct?

It is against US law for a non-citizen to be in the country without permission, correct?

Therefore, ALL 'undocumented immigrants'/'illegal immigrants'/'illegal aliens'/'whatever you wanna call them', being in the country without permission, ARE breaking the law therefore ARE criminals. ALL of 'em.

If you are not a US Citizen, and you do not have a visa/green-card (documents for LEGAL immigration), if you are in the USA, you are a criminal.

Is this morally or ethically correct? Maybe... Maybe not...

Technically yes but years of bad policy means you have many that have been there for 10 years and are not crimes and even fought in your armed forces that are now facing deportation .

There should be some sort of amnesty anybody in America longer than 5 years and no criminal conviction can stay and reapply to work or live everyone one else out !

I was a story of some guy that went to Iraq and now he's facing deportation .

(myself, I am in favor of both relaxing the quotas on legal immigration so that more can immigrate legally AND instituting a guest worker program so that those that merely want to come here to work for a while then return home can do so)...

I agree with this , most people just want a chance to better there life , it's the Organised crime behind the human trafficeers that get a lot of then killed or into crime
Most will gladly go back home once they have a few bucks in the pocket . A few bucks ern't in America is a kings ransom in some country's .

But, until we can get those changes to the immigration system passed by Congress and signed by the President, we really really do NEED to follow the laws on the books

I think maybe that's a bit to hard maybe give people a chance to appeal if there only crime was working , If they have worked for 2 years and have no other convictions .

you can write to Trump or tweet your objections and help him change his mind you never know :)

You probably have more people over staying than cross the border with Mexico . That's what happens here , Come for a holiday stay for 5 years 4 1/2 years as illegal . Your border or immigration needs more cash to find people and police the border a fence wont stop people

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Your border or immigration needs more cash to find people and police the border a fence wont stop people

This, from an alleged citizen of a nation that solves it's refugee problem by confining them to a concentration camp on an off shore island........kinda speaks for itself.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

We would be called Xenophobic, Racist, etc.

Which we are already labeled............so what's the difference. We are prejudged by the Left World opinion so no matter what we do we're the bad guys. America is an easy target for criticism until crisis strikes and the rest of the world finds they need us.

What will happen if the next time a tin pot dictator decides to conquer the world and the US does the same as the UN(sit on it's overstuffed apathy).

It won't happen due to the moral conscience of mainstream Americans who help everyone with amazing generosity but it's interesting to contemplate.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Your border or immigration needs more cash to find people and police the border a fence wont stop people
This, from an alleged citizen of a nation that solves it's refugee problem by confining them to a concentration camp on an off shore island........kinda speaks for itself.

There not confined they can leave the detention Camp any time they wish . They just can't come here . (witch is a policy I do not agree with)

As you have had to build a wall and need more money for border security we have had to spend up on new Coast Guard ships and form a whole new department to stop people landing here you need to spend more . But you don't have to be nasty and follow a lame duck fascist government like ours is .

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Your border or immigration needs more cash to find people and police the border a fence wont stop people
This, from an alleged citizen of a nation that solves it's refugee problem by confining them to a concentration camp on an off shore island........kinda speaks for itself.

There not confined they can leave the detention Camp any time they wish.

How can they?
Take a hike from Manus Island or Nauru?


To me it's look like camps to hold people in.
That's why it's called Detention Camps.

(I think that this is also the point that CLYDE has been trying to cryptically make many times, no?)

The problem though is that Clyde tends to label people as extreme radicals when they don't really fit the label. Leaving Clyde the judge, jury, and executioner without discussion on the merits of his claims is antithetical to the purpose of having discussion forums.

Why do you consider it wrong to judge, with total negativity. The Nazi System, the Nazi Leadership, The Nazi Murders, and any person excusing the Nazis?

Clyde, i don't believe I've ever seen OZ state that, is that an alternative truth?

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