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JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
If the election isn't decided by popular vote, then there's no reason to deride those that don't partake. If you want a 'popular vote' then YOU are living in the wrong country. I don't understand people who don't understand what a REPUBLIC IS! Once again, though probably not for the last time, CIVICS 101: The States elect the President, if the POPULAR VOTE in a STATE is for a candidate then THAT STATE votes to ELECT THE PRESIDENT. So the POPULAR VOTE does count, get over it and nominate a candidate who can garner sufficient POPULAR VOTES in enough STATES to get ELECTED. The PEOPLE really have SPOKEN, choke back your tears and work to win the next election, not to destroy the country we all love. And as sure as I sit here some wag will give me a rejoinder that it's Trump who will destroy the country, how are you so sure? Wait til the cake is baked before pronouncing it unfit to eat.... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
These are the counties that went Republican from Democrat from 2012. That shift is from the popular vote which changed the electoral vote. I'd say the popular vote swung the election. ... |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
I don't know about the majority of them didn't vote? But I did see a protester on the news who stated he didn't vote because he wasn't registered. I can only ask why is the dumb bastard protesting then? And I disagree with you on that. If you don't vote,Then don't cry about how the election turned out. [/quote] Old James |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30903 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The ruling elite have taken a blow that hopefully they shall never recover from. So sorry to inform you that the ruling elite's candidate won. Trump is a actor, showman, carnie and con man all in one, a good one, and a silver spooner, never worked a day in his life for the man, because he is the man. When you see how he dumps you without health care, raises tax on the middle class so he can lower it on corporations and billionaires (himself), kills your cheap imported goods so you have to pay double the sales tax to get what you want, you will rue the day you swallowed his bait hook line and sinker. You just voted for the largest tax increase in history and you don't even know it! You just voted to cut your disposable income by half and you don't even know it! Just wait 'till he gets rid of the EPA because those regulations are bad for profits and you have to live in the toxic choking air and drink the filthy polluted water. Remember many times when the Cayahoga River caught fire? That is the kind of profits Trump stands for and you will have to live it. If you had only listened, Gary Johnson for President. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30903 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Sorry to disagree with you good sir. If the election isn't decided by popular vote, then there's no reason to deride those that don't partake. I disagree. Rights are rights. Having and using one is not dependent on using another. They have every right to protest. Voting is not mandatory in the USA. Perhaps it will be under Trump. Say $10,000.00 fine and 90 days in jail if you don't vote? So if they choose to vote none of the above by not going to the poll they have the right to protest over the election. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Sorry to disagree with you good sir. If the election isn't decided by popular vote, then there's no reason to deride those that don't partake. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Say $10,000.00 fine and 90 days in jail if you don't vote?No that smacks too much of the Democratic solution to Healthcare, buy it or we'll fine you.......proven since enactment that it doesn't work. This election is a temporary reprieve from the destruction of this country. They'll come back. And they'll keep coming back. And.......so.........will........we........ "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30903 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
But don't be surprised if Trump enacts it before he dissolves all other political parties so his name is the only one on the ballot.Say $10,000.00 fine and 90 days in jail if you don't vote?No that smacks too much of the Democratic solution to Healthcare, buy it or we'll fine you |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Open minds do not prejudge......... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
The ruling elite have taken a blow that hopefully they shall never recover from. I agree with everything in your post except for the last line. Fortunately you are from a state where voting for Gary Johnson wasn't effectively a vote for Trump. Reality Internet Personality |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30903 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
If you had only listened, Gary Johnson for President. If only 1/3 of the Rats and 1/3 of the Pugnants had voted for Gary Johnson, he would have a huge mandate. It is thinking like you expressed that causes the Trumps to be elected and the bondage and slavery to continue. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
If you had only listened, Gary Johnson for President. Except I don't think Gary Johnson would have been a good alternative. Reality Internet Personality |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Except I don't think Gary Johnson would have been a good alternative. +1 (surprisingly)......... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
If the election isn't decided by popular vote, then there's no reason to deride those that don't partake. All this drivel and I support the electoral college process. Why is everyone so black and white on these forums that they infer an entire thought process from a single comment? Why.... why is everyone so quick to attack without finding facts first? I don't wish to make popular vote the deciding vote. I wish to do away with the time waster. And I support everyone's right to complain about whatever they wish. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I don't know about the majority of them didn't vote? But I did see a protester on the news who stated he didn't vote because he wasn't registered. I can only ask why is the dumb bastard protesting then? What does it matter if they don't vote? Popular vote doesn't matter. Popular vote doesn't elect our Commander in Chief, however, the Commander in Chief is the leader of the free world. People have a right to complain. |
shizaru Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 1130 Credit: 1,967,904 RAC: 0 |
[snip] BTW, it's when you say things like that, you trigger CLYDE :) And you guys go round and round... and in the end CLYDE would be right. I know, I know... you think I've gone crazy (or am crazy in general). But I've been shaking my head for months. You guys are SO allergic to his writing style that you fail to see CLYDE's almost never wrong. Let me explain: a) When CLYDE goes on a back and forth with one of you guys and does NOT back down, chances are he is right and you are wrong. He has thought it through a lot better than you have. Sorry. b) When CLYDE goes on a back and forth with one of you guys and you present him with a piece of info he was missing he IMMEDIATELY says, "I stand corrected". Do I really have to remind you guys that not a lot of people can do that? And that it's a good thing? Back to the quoted text. ...you are from a state where voting for Gary Johnson wasn't effectively a vote for Trump. You are being a TINA. And I'm pretty sure you neither are or want to be a TINA. As for me? There is ZERO chance I would have voted for Trump or Hillary. Had you dropped me in State, told me the State has voted, told me that T&H are tied and... it would STILL be a choice between Johnson & Stein. And (personally) I'd probably go for Stein. What blows my mind is that I have to explain this to an insanely sharp progressive. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
All this drivel and I support the electoral college process What does it matter if they don't vote? Popular vote doesn't matter. Popular vote doesn't elect our Commander in Chief The two posts seem to be contradictory.......as previously pointed out... if the POPULAR VOTE in a STATE is for a candidate then THAT STATE votes to ELECT THE PRESIDENT. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
[snip] OR perhaps I just see what a terrible danger Trump is? In this case I am a TINA. Reality Internet Personality |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30903 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
All this drivel and I support the electoral college process No it doesn't. The popular vote selects electors to the electoral college. They can and frequently do as they damn well please. https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19 |
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