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Periodic table's seventh row finally filled as four new elements are added
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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Video with link. Four new elements have been added to the periodic table, finally completing the table’s seventh row and rendering science textbooks around the world instantly out of date. The elements, discovered by scientists in Japan, Russia and America, are the first to be added to the table since 2011, when elements 114 and 116 were added. http://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jan/04/periodic-tables-seventh-row-finally-filled-as-four-new-elements-are-added |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
I can still remember that UFO game & Element-117... :D nice to hear that those elements were found! ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I think they are all artificial. 118 was made bombarding californium with calcium ions. It is not easy for a nucleus with many protons to be stable,given the electrostatic repulsion of the protons. Tullio |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
All of the new ones are created in a lab and are highly unstable. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I think they are looking for a "island of stability". Nuclear physics, not to be confused with elementary particle physics, is still being developed. Tullio |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Uranium is the heaviest natural element that occurs in any quantity. There are trace amounts of plutonium that are present in uranium ore. Everything heavier than that is man made and has a very short life. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22526 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
There are some minute traces of Plutonium to be found in nature, in addition to the surface contamination from the atomic bombs that started in the 1940s. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
About eight thousand kg of plutonium exist in nuclear warheads. Tullio |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Name new element 117 Octarine, in honour of Terry Pratchett's Discworld I think we should all sign this! Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Ian 'Lemmy' Kilmister, bassplayer in Motörhead, was a force of nature and the very essence of heavy metal:) https://www.change.org/p/support-lemmy-tribute-name-newly-discovered-heavy-metal-lemmium We believe it is fitting that the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry recommend that one of the four new discovered Heavy Metals in the Periodic table is named Lemmium. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Ian 'Lemmy' Kilmister, bassplayer in Motörhead, was a force of nature and the very essence of heavy metal:) I signed that one too! Thanks :) Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Name new element 117 Octarine, in honour of Terry Pratchett's Discworld But why element 117? Octarine, also known as the Colour of Magic or the King Colour, was the eighth colour of the Discworld spectrum. It was visible only to wizards and cats. I think element 118 should be called Octarine because it belongs to the noble gases. For now it's this: 118 - Uuo - Ununoctium |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Name new element 117 Octarine, in honour of Terry Pratchett's Discworld I think because of the naming convention. It would be in group 7 of the periodic table so would be in the same group as chlorine and fluorine and bromine. Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Name new element 117 Octarine, in honour of Terry Pratchett's Discworld Of course it's the naming convention. For now the new found elements are called one-one-(its atomic number - 110) in greek. 113 - Uut - Ununtrium 115 - Uup - Ununpentium 117 - Uus - Ununseptium 118 - Uuo - Ununoctium It would be strange to qualify Octarine as Ununseptium instead of Ununoctium. Septium means seven. Octium means eight. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22526 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Two names to conjure with, especially when one considers how some earlier names were arrived at..... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
But naming one after a heavy metal band member is just childish and unacceptable. Yes, you are right Chris. Skandium and Ytterbium should also be renamed. Totally unacceptable to have those childish names! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
In 1878, the Swiss chemist Jean Charles Galissard de Marignac separated in the rare earth "erbia" another independent component, which he called "ytterbia", for Ytterby, the village in Sweden near where he found the new component of erbium. Here is the total list of childish names for elements found in a small Scandinavian quarry! Yttrium (of Ytterby) Ytterbium (of Ytterby) Terbium (of Ytterby) Erbium (of Ytterby) Holmium (of Holmia, the Latin name for Stockholm) Scandium (Scandinavia) Thulium (Thule, the Latin name of Scandinavia) Gadolinium (after Johan Gadolin) Tantalum (after the Greek mythological character Tantalus) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ytterby |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31002 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Absolutely https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkelium |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7264 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Lemmium petition update:) https://www.change.org/p/support-lemmy-tribute-name-newly-discovered-heavy-metal-lemmium/u/14903366?tk=7DLoWJBQnlNhSylMC4NvfQROP_ERxBEe3ayiUVR-PLY&utm_source=petition_update&utm_medium=email ‘Don’t usually support campaigns but this one must surely be right’ – Professor Brian Cox. Before his academic career, Cox was a keyboard player for the bands D:Ream and Dare. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_(physicist) Anyway. Lemmy himself said in 2010: "We were not heavy metal," he snaps. "We were a rock'n'roll band. Still are. Everyone always describes us as heavy metal even when I tell them otherwise. Why won't people listen?" I guess we have to find something else to name the new heavy metals. Hmmm. Ledzeppelinium:) |
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