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Message 2145521 - Posted: 22 Jan 2025, 11:50:09 UTC - in response to Message 2145517.  

Definitely a miss-placed flat-earther discovering that the earth spherical.
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Message 2145538 - Posted: 22 Jan 2025, 15:27:12 UTC

Yeah, the earth's an oblate spheroid, I think it moves 10,000 mph at the equator.

Enough gold near the core to plate the entire earth 3' thick, at least that's what I read once. Plus there is a lot of water down there bound with subducted sea floor.
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Message 2145615 - Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 1:07:42 UTC

‘Offensive’ Tattoos and Revealing Clothing Are Now on Spirit Airlines’ No-Fly List
The airline clarified (somewhat) the attire and appearance that might prevent passengers from being allowed to board or remain on a plane, a move that goes a step further than other major U.S. airlines.
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Message 2145629 - Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 7:54:19 UTC

You got to draw the line somewhere. I see the clothing issue as needing more coverage or appear to be painted on. The tattoos might make them some more money as bandages and coverup make up can be purchased from the air carrier.

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Message 2145631 - Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 12:21:07 UTC

Lucky.

Driver and passenger survive as tree falls on car
Two people escaped unhurt when a tree fell on to their moving car during Storm Éowyn.
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Message 2145646 - Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 0:20:06 UTC - in response to Message 2145631.  

Lucky.

Driver and passenger survive as tree falls on car
Two people escaped unhurt when a tree fell on to their moving car during Storm Éowyn.
Un-believably un-lucky to be there just at that time.
And un-believably lucky to have gotten away with so little injury. If that parked car hadn't been there, i doubt they'd have been nearly as fortunate...
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Message 2145708 - Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 19:55:07 UTC

I do like the last one about the London Underground.
Chinese engineers didn’t get he traffic light idea right.

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Message 2145734 - Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 14:46:28 UTC

Visibility of max speed signs is overrated:

Elizabeth line train caught at double speed limit

An Elizabeth line train jolted causing some passengers to lose their footing after travelling at almost twice the speed limit, the rail safety investigator has revealed.

One passenger fell over after the Heathrow to Shenfield service passed a signal near Manor Park at 45mph (72km/h) instead of the recommended 25mph (40km/h) on 24 September 2024.

There was an "incorrectly placed, inconspicuous and dirty" speed limit sign, according to the Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB), [...]

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Message 2145748 - Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 21:40:03 UTC - in response to Message 2145734.  

Ridiculous!

And total uncaring jobsworths for having that silliness come to be.

AND a total failure of supervision and checks.


The accident report needs to insist upon procedural/management changes...


Another one of those "Should never have happened..." ...


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Message 2145749 - Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 21:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 2145748.  

Not Work, Fail - a somewhat derogatory branding of part of the UK's rail "management" infrastructure, the higher levels of which are manned by those who have been promoted beyond the level of their incompetence.
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Message 2145750 - Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 21:58:10 UTC

Martin might enjoy this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v62kzDb_DW0

"Infective communication"......
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Message 2145783 - Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 11:50:47 UTC - in response to Message 2145750.  
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"Infective communication"......
Whatever communication may was "ineffective"...

The root cause is the pipe. It should have never been allowed in the first place to install such a temporary rubber pipe (with snap locks, attached with clamping rings!!!) immediately below rails through the track's ballast bed. If there would have been a larger diameter protective steel tube instead, drilled horizontally, deeper below the rails through the embankment which then would have encapsulate the temporary pipes, a leak could not have damaged the embankment. Yes... the costs... and time...
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Message 2145796 - Posted: 30 Jan 2025, 17:58:12 UTC

This is an ongoing investigation and will be some time before we know details of the who, when, why what caused this.
Everyone aboard an American Airlines jet that collided with an Army helicopter is feared dead
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All 64 people aboard an American Airlines jet that collided with an Army helicopter were feared dead in what was likely to be the worst U.S. aviation disaster in almost a quarter century, officials said Thursday.

At least 28 bodies were pulled from the icy waters of the Potomac River after the helicopter apparently flew into the path of the jet late Wednesday as it was landing at Ronald Reagan National Airport near Washington, officials said. The plane carried 60 passengers and four crew. Three soldiers were aboard the helicopter.
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Message 2145814 - Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 2:11:40 UTC - in response to Message 2145796.  

This is an ongoing investigation and will be some time before we know details of the who, when, why what caused this.
We know cause, eyeballs are fallible. Both aircraft were operating visually in good weather, tower verified with helicopter that they saw the jet and they would stay clear. Obviously they didn't. Line one of the report; "Failure to see and avoid." The majority of the report will attempt to explain why the eyeball didn't see or misidentified what it did see. Then there will be a section, a frequent repeat section, on how to reduce the chances of it happening again. Of course the Army will also produce a report with an eye to finding someone, still alive, to court-martial.
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Message 2145816 - Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 4:24:04 UTC - in response to Message 2145814.  

I have a nominee for court martial, in theory, but I can not say here.
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Message 2145829 - Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 15:52:13 UTC - in response to Message 2145816.  

For ATC, the pilots, or the flight path planners?...

Note that there were two fixed wing aircraft in sight plus a third nearby... Which plane did the helicopter pilots think was the "CRJ"?

... And ATC gave them less than one minute to understand, identify, and act upon...


That was an overly busy far too confined conflict situation that was too dangerous to survive...

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Message 2145832 - Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 16:23:13 UTC - in response to Message 2145829.  

Flight path planners....
Vertical separation is normally 1000ft, but there are allowable exceptions.....
In this case there were two flight paths, more or less perpendicular to each other, the lower at a maximum altitude of 200ft and only for helicopters, with the higher approach to the runway, at 400ft. So the two should have missed, but it is being reported that the helicopter was climbing beyond its permitted 200ft......
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Message 2145838 - Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 18:09:49 UTC - in response to Message 2145832.  

Flight path planners....
???

...but it is being reported that the helicopter was climbing beyond its permitted 200ft......
So, the heli pilot is to blame.
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Message 2145839 - Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 18:43:39 UTC - in response to Message 2145832.  

with the higher approach to the runway, at 400ft.
???

But CRJ was was on final approach for landing. He wouldn't approach at a level 400' until he reached the runway, and then drop vertically: civilian passenger jets can't do that. That's the error Trump made in his press conference - he looked at the scene in only two dimensions.

I'd like to see a vertical profile for the standard glide-path on final approach to runway 33: how far out over the Potomac does it cross that 400' floor?
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Message 2145845 - Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 21:29:10 UTC - in response to Message 2145838.  

Pres Harry Truman said the Buck stops here, in his office.
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