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Message 1784844 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 1:42:16 UTC - in response to Message 1784823.  

Here Government will sometimes(depends on who the government is) will pay for such alterations, one transportation project that I know of, is relocating underground utilities and such, just to be safe.
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Message 1784863 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 3:20:28 UTC - in response to Message 1784823.  
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They do things like that here too.
Lorry hits Lambeth bridge despite huge warning signs

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Message 1784868 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 3:36:29 UTC - in response to Message 1784863.  

Ouch!

Here the local height limit is 14'7" I think and yeah the fwy overpass got hit once, next time I'm in the area I'll pull over and snap a picture or two.
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Message 1785000 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 17:49:39 UTC - in response to Message 1784815.  

Height of truck & load 14'0", height of bridge 13'9"...

...hmm, let's do the math...

...oops :-)

But the sat nav said this was the route to take, and if we don't take the roue the sat nav says we'll be fired!

Lovely toys sat-nav's :-)

"Sat-Nav" jams truck in village
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Message 1787717 - Posted: 15 May 2016, 18:27:13 UTC

Ooops...

Medical issue or poor driving?
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Message 1787939 - Posted: 16 May 2016, 18:09:46 UTC - in response to Message 1787921.  

Well I have a banking app on my iPhone, as I suspect do many others, so this was really inevitable.
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Message 1788009 - Posted: 16 May 2016, 22:46:08 UTC - in response to Message 1787939.  

Feds: Amtrak 188 engineer distracted prior to derailment

Washington (CNN)A federal investigation into the Amtrak 188 derailment that killed eight people and injured more than 200 in Philadelphia last year has concluded that the train's engineer, Brandon Bostian, was distracted prior to the crash, according to a U.S. official.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/16/politics/amtrak-188-derailment-engineer-distracted/index.html
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Message 1796690 - Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 21:01:56 UTC

Oops

Funny safety measures, derails train? What if it had passengers?
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Message 1796749 - Posted: 17 Jun 2016, 1:40:24 UTC - in response to Message 1796690.  
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From the photo, the incident should have been survivable to any passengers. Train is upright, coach volumes intact, no objects penetrating occupied areas. The alternative might have been to allow the train to drive on into annother occupied train, or an occupied platform, or into structure that would penetrate the coaches. De-railing is probably the lesser of many evils.

The REAL way to prevent this accident is to not drive through red lights.

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Message 1798087 - Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 2:59:11 UTC

Interesting. Thank goodness though that I'm not going to be behind the wheel of a HGV this morning.

Do driver awareness courses make roads safer

"As for using mobile phones while driving, for which the government is consulting on raising the fine from £100 to £150 and the penalty points from three to four for non-HGV drivers."

Holy s**t Batman, you serious?

"The biggest study it cites, published by the Department for Transport in 2005, compared those who had attended courses with those who hadn't. It involved a questionnaire and an on-road assessment by a driving instructor six and 12 months later."

Holy s**t Robin, this is 2016, ya canna be serious!
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Message 1798093 - Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 3:22:53 UTC - in response to Message 1798087.  
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Interesting. Thank goodness though that I'm not going to be behind the wheel of a HGV this morning.

Took a bit to find out what HGV was.
Here we have Light Ridged (LR), Medium Ridged (MR) & Heavy Ridged (HR) truck licenses, then come those for Semi trailers (Heavy Combination, HC), and the many and varied form of multiple trailer vehicles (Mulit-Combination, MC) for road trains. The pinnacle is driving the Road Trains with triple trailers hauling fuel.


Do driver awareness courses make roads safer

IMHO, it depends.
If they are part of learning how to drive, before you even have a licence, and then maybe a course or 2 just before you get your licence then maybe a reminder 3 months later then I can see them being of benefit.

But for someone that's been driving for 18 months, 5 years, 15 years- nope. No effect at all.
Like a druggy- unless the driver themselves admit that they have a problem, nothing you do will change their behaviour. Why should they? They're the best driver on the planet, there's no need for them to change.



Making something idiot proof just results in a better idiot.
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Message 1798095 - Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 3:29:32 UTC - in response to Message 1798093.  

Making something idiot proof just results in a better idiot.

Superb!

Thanks for making the rest of the day a happy one :-)
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Message 1798100 - Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 3:42:10 UTC - in response to Message 1798095.  

Superb!

Thanks for making the rest of the day a happy one :-)

No worries.
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I think it would have to be over 20 years ago now there was a production (BBC I think) looking at the history of car safely.
One thing they did was call any incidents crashes, as calling them an accident tends to imply it was unavoidable, something that just happened. While a land slide or falling rocks taking you out on the road can be truly unavoidable, the vast majority of crashes are preventable. They pretty much boil down to stupidity (my terminology).

And one of the most interesting points made towards the end of the show, was that as car safety has improved greatly over the years (suspension, tyres, roads, car strength, ability to absorb impact etc) people's driving has become less cautious, more aggressive/reckless. The safer roads & cars become, the less care people take while driving, so

making something idiot proof really does result in a better idiot.
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Message 1798102 - Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 3:46:06 UTC - in response to Message 1798100.  
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Hmm, I wonder if it was the same one I watched. There was a segment of the program where the reporter was interviewing a Thames Valley Police Officer.

That officer's reply to a question was: -

"There is no such thing as an accident, it is all down to a lapse of concentration"

At the time & even now, I fully agree with that.

Edit: To confirm that there was a nice "event" on the way to Addenbrookes last Friday. For the first time in approx. 18 months she drove at very high speed & not a worry by me until we came off the A1 onto the A14 slip road.

I was in the back seat keeping my granddaughter company when I looked up...

"Whoa, drop back darling".

Being seated on the the left hand side, I could see the traffic in front of the HGV that we were behind. Traffic had started braking sharply & she was way way too close to the rear of the truck.

Phew, close call. Another lesson learned by her, but in those 18 months compared to that very 1st trip down, she learned considerably.

Having dinner later that evening, all I told her was that on other trips, "please, no more whoa moments" :-)
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Message 1798118 - Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 5:10:26 UTC - in response to Message 1798100.  

And one of the most interesting points made towards the end of the show, was that as car safety has improved greatly over the years (suspension, tyres, roads, car strength, ability to absorb impact etc) people's driving has become less cautious, more aggressive/reckless. The safer roads & cars become, the less care people take while driving, so

making something idiot proof really does result in a better idiot.

Perhaps they explains why in the heavy Latino (as Drumpf would say illegal) area in Los Angeles they drive with caution, no license, no insurance, no registration.
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Message 1798124 - Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 5:36:53 UTC - in response to Message 1798118.  

, no license, no insurance, no registration.

Here they're the worst drivers.
Always entertaining seeing the news "...Picked up for DUI (Driving Under the Influence) while un-licensed in an un-registered vehicle, for the 4th, 5th, 8th time..."
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