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Message 1730169 - Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 0:15:29 UTC

If the presence of life on/in Mars is confirmed will we still send humans there.
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Message 1730176 - Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 0:30:32 UTC - in response to Message 1730169.  

IMO without a Van Allen belt Mars is a bad place to send people.
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Message 1730189 - Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 1:16:19 UTC - in response to Message 1730169.  

If the presence of life on/in Mars is confirmed will we still send humans there.

It would be insane, IMO. The risk of contaminating the planet with life from Earth would be too high and we'd lose something priceless if that happened.
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Message 1730230 - Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 3:21:27 UTC - in response to Message 1730189.  

If the presence of life on/in Mars is confirmed will we still send humans there.

It would be insane, IMO. The risk of contaminating the planet with life from Earth would be too high and we'd lose something priceless if that happened.
If life is confirmed there will be so many robots sent from so many countries that we will contaminate it PDQ, if we already haven't, as some of the old probes were not all that carefully scrubbed.
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Message 1730242 - Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 3:57:28 UTC - in response to Message 1730230.  

If the presence of life on/in Mars is confirmed will we still send humans there.

It would be insane, IMO. The risk of contaminating the planet with life from Earth would be too high and we'd lose something priceless if that happened.
If life is confirmed there will be so many robots sent from so many countries that we will contaminate it PDQ, if we already haven't, as some of the old probes were not all that carefully scrubbed.

The discovery of life on Mars would be the most significant event in human history - I don't think anybody would want to be known as the country that destroyed it.
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Message 1730250 - Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 4:41:03 UTC

I don't see how you can really verify life there without doing closer investigation(i.e. landing things).
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Message 1730259 - Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 5:23:44 UTC

The rovers they have there now may be able to gather enough evidence to prove beyond any doubt that life is still present on Mars. They want to say it now but feel they need more evidence.
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Message 1730279 - Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 6:47:48 UTC - in response to Message 1730259.  

The rovers they have there now may be able to gather enough evidence to prove beyond any doubt that life is still present on Mars. They want to say it now but feel they need more evidence.

Curiosity wasn't designed to test for life, unfortunately. If it found some of that briny water we'd have to send something else to check it out.
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Message 1730286 - Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 7:24:02 UTC - in response to Message 1730189.  
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If the presence of life on/in Mars is confirmed will we still send humans there.

It would be insane, IMO. The risk of contaminating the planet with life from Earth would be too high and we'd lose something priceless if that happened.

we already came there...so contamination is there!

but it's 0, 'cause of a:
1. inter-planetary travel & strong radiation
2. lack of oxygen for sustaining life on drones
3. lack of compatible atmosphere for any bacteria (unless a special 1 is dug up & put on drone) to thrive on Mars!

so people, stop saying that...contamination is "not very likely" from our influence of a few drones or people visiting there!
but a planet without Van Allen belts - no thanks! I'd rather go to Venus & live in a Zeppelins...
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Message 1730398 - Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 16:32:16 UTC - in response to Message 1730286.  

If the presence of life on/in Mars is confirmed will we still send humans there.

It would be insane, IMO. The risk of contaminating the planet with life from Earth would be too high and we'd lose something priceless if that happened.

we already came there...so contamination is there!

but it's 0, 'cause of a:
1. inter-planetary travel & strong radiation
2. lack of oxygen for sustaining life on drones
3. lack of compatible atmosphere for any bacteria (unless a special 1 is dug up & put on drone) to thrive on Mars!

so people, stop saying that...contamination is "not very likely" from our influence of a few drones or people visiting there!
but a planet without Van Allen belts - no thanks! I'd rather go to Venus & live in a Zeppelins...
;)

Drones or probes, yes - people, no. The possibility of contamination by accident would be too high. If we found life we'd start working on probes that could return samples, but until you could guarantee no danger to the planet it would be crazy to risk sending people and I don't think anyone would try. One mistake is all it would take to ruin the most valuable thing we'd ever found.
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Message 1730547 - Posted: 1 Oct 2015, 6:45:30 UTC - in response to Message 1730398.  

If the presence of life on/in Mars is confirmed will we still send humans there.

It would be insane, IMO. The risk of contaminating the planet with life from Earth would be too high and we'd lose something priceless if that happened.

we already came there...so contamination is there!

but it's 0, 'cause of a:
1. inter-planetary travel & strong radiation
2. lack of oxygen for sustaining life on drones
3. lack of compatible atmosphere for any bacteria (unless a special 1 is dug up & put on drone) to thrive on Mars!

so people, stop saying that...contamination is "not very likely" from our influence of a few drones or people visiting there!
but a planet without Van Allen belts - no thanks! I'd rather go to Venus & live in a Zeppelins...
;)

Drones or probes, yes - people, no. The possibility of contamination by accident would be too high. If we found life we'd start working on probes that could return samples, but until you could guarantee no danger to the planet it would be crazy to risk sending people and I don't think anyone would try. One mistake is all it would take to ruin the most valuable thing we'd ever found.

& what did we found? so far NOTHING!

also, all bacteria on human body can only live in Earth atmosphere...so on mars it's useless!
also, our secretions r useless on Mars!

btw, it would be interesting for some1 2 decompose on surface of Mars...only internal bacteria could thrive in that body, until it exposes to all of mars atmosphere...
& then there would be NOTHING...
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Message 1730630 - Posted: 1 Oct 2015, 13:34:43 UTC - in response to Message 1730547.  

If the presence of life on/in Mars is confirmed will we still send humans there.

It would be insane, IMO. The risk of contaminating the planet with life from Earth would be too high and we'd lose something priceless if that happened.

we already came there...so contamination is there!

but it's 0, 'cause of a:
1. inter-planetary travel & strong radiation
2. lack of oxygen for sustaining life on drones
3. lack of compatible atmosphere for any bacteria (unless a special 1 is dug up & put on drone) to thrive on Mars!

so people, stop saying that...contamination is "not very likely" from our influence of a few drones or people visiting there!
but a planet without Van Allen belts - no thanks! I'd rather go to Venus & live in a Zeppelins...
;)

Drones or probes, yes - people, no. The possibility of contamination by accident would be too high. If we found life we'd start working on probes that could return samples, but until you could guarantee no danger to the planet it would be crazy to risk sending people and I don't think anyone would try. One mistake is all it would take to ruin the most valuable thing we'd ever found.

& what did we found? so far NOTHING!

also, all bacteria on human body can only live in Earth atmosphere...so on mars it's useless!
also, our secretions r useless on Mars!

btw, it would be interesting for some1 2 decompose on surface of Mars...only internal bacteria could thrive in that body, until it exposes to all of mars atmosphere...
& then there would be NOTHING...
;)

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-08/bacteria-survive-553-day-exposure-exterior-iss
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Message 1730631 - Posted: 1 Oct 2015, 13:37:53 UTC

As stated BE4...that is a SPECIAL KIND of bacteria!

U don't have it on humans...u don't have it in garages...or @ home!
Much less in a Space center...
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Message 1730656 - Posted: 1 Oct 2015, 15:19:53 UTC - in response to Message 1730630.  

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-08/bacteria-survive-553-day-exposure-exterior-iss

It's a Bacteria taken from the scrumptiously named fishing village of Beer on Britain's south coast that have proven themselves some of the hardiest organisms on Earth.

Cheers:)
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Message 1730996 - Posted: 2 Oct 2015, 4:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 1730631.  

As stated BE4...that is a SPECIAL KIND of bacteria!

U don't have it on humans...u don't have it in garages...or @ home!
Much less in a Space center...
;)

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-319
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Message 1731028 - Posted: 2 Oct 2015, 7:46:21 UTC - in response to Message 1730631.  

As stated BE4...that is a SPECIAL KIND of bacteria!

U don't have it on humans...u don't have it in garages...or @ home!
Much less in a Space center...
;)

you were saying?
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Message 1731103 - Posted: 2 Oct 2015, 12:09:39 UTC

So,
if Mars is found to have some very primitive exotic form{s) of life
should a sample be brought to Earth?
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Message 1731108 - Posted: 2 Oct 2015, 12:22:30 UTC - in response to Message 1730656.  
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http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-08/bacteria-survive-553-day-exposure-exterior-iss

It's a Bacteria taken from the scrumptiously named fishing village of Beer on Britain's south coast that have proven themselves some of the hardiest organisms on Earth.

Cheers:)

exectly, not nearly near a Florida or Russia...or Japan...or South America...or China!
(did I get them all?)
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As stated BE4...that is a SPECIAL KIND of bacteria!

U don't have it on humans...u don't have it in garages...or @ home!
Much less in a Space center...
;)

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-319

OK, send it in a Space...to C if it can survive?!

until more examination is done, I'm not skipping a heart-beat! ;)


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Message 1731118 - Posted: 2 Oct 2015, 13:10:08 UTC - in response to Message 1731103.  

So,
if Mars is found to have some very primitive exotic form{s) of life
should a sample be brought to Earth?

I would think not. What it would do in a controlled environment in a lab would probably not be the same as what it would do if it broke containment.

On the other hand it might be the silver bullet that cures cancer.
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Message 1731243 - Posted: 2 Oct 2015, 20:02:55 UTC - in response to Message 1731103.  

So,
if Mars is found to have some very primitive exotic form{s) of life
should a sample be brought to Earth?

I don't think I'd want to be the one trying to explain to the world why it was a good idea.
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