Just made some iced tea. Time for a relaxing evening. :~)

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I should note that there's no alcohol in that cider. A friend of mine in England automatically associates cider with an alcoholic beverage, but in the U.S., cider like that is designated as "hard". This is just good old-fashioned unfiltered unadulterated juice pressed from apples. The term "apple juice", however, is different from apple cider in the sense that all the particles of the apple other than the actual juice have been filtered out, so it is more transparent than cider, and doesn't have the zippy tang.

Looks to me like another case of the US misusing words.
The word to describe a good old-fashioned unfiltered unadulterated juice pressed from apples sometimes called cider would be scumpy.

Cider and scumpy are alcoholic drinks, using those words to describe a non-alcoholic apple based drink fails the UK's Trades description act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cider

Further to our "cider" discussion. It would seem that your first president considered cider an alcoholic drink. Finding Lost Apples and Reviving a Beloved Cider

ASBURY, N.J. — Ironbound Hard Cider may seem an odd name for the business Charles Rosen has built here on 108 acres in central New Jersey. The farm, where a new taproom offers pastoral views of the still-ripening fruit, doesn’t appear to share much with the Ironbound, an industrial neighborhood 50 miles to the east in Newark.

Yet they do have common roots, thanks to four very old apple varieties now growing on Mr. Rosen’s land.

Mr. Rosen, the former chief executive of a Manhattan advertising agency that promoted Svedka vodka and Mike’s Hard Lemonade, wants to reintroduce Newark cider, an 18th- and 19th-century alcoholic drink once famously compared to Champagne.

Newark cider was both a point of pride and big business for the region — requested by name, reportedly lauded by George Washington and produced by dozens of Newark-area cideries with acres of orchards. The secret wasn’t a recipe, but the blending of a quartet of superior apples born in the region: Campfield, Poveshon, Granniwinkle and Harrison, the most celebrated of the four.

Good article, thanks. I'm afraid the farm where my favorite non-alcoholic apple cider is produced may be in danger due to a family feud. It's going up for auction, this Fall. I'm worried the buyer will cut the property all up and urbanize it.

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Good article, thanks. I'm afraid the farm where my favorite non-alcoholic apple cider is produced may be in danger due to a family feud. It's going up for auction, this Fall. I'm worried the buyer will cut the property all up and urbanize it.

That's terrible, Apple Cider is one of My all time favorites. Hopefully the place will be sold to somebody who loves apples.

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Your chance then Gordon - get Carlos in on the deal (fund it) and between you produce the most off-this-planet (hard) cider going ;-)

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Has anybody tried that Halloween sandwich from Burger King with the green buns?

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Why is real parmesan(the type you slice) so expensive?! I just paid almost $15 for less than a pound of Reggiano.

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That's the cheap stuff at $15/pound - the best costs way over $50/4 oz!!!!

Why - snob value, low production, long maturing time....

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That's the cheap stuff at $15/pound - the best costs way over $50/4 oz!!!!

Yikes! Well, I'll stop complaining, then. I'd like to try a small shred of that high-falutin stuff, though.

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I have, and let's just say, "It's good, but really that good??"
The $15 stuff is perfectly adequate unless you really know your cheeses and have more money than sense.
Whenever I visit Italy I come back with some of the 20Euro/kg stuff and that lasts a few weeks if kept cool (not cold) and dry - but not too dry.

(For "some" read "as much as I can justifiably get in my case" and not kick the wine out.)

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This reminds me of a Frasier episode when they get in trouble buying black market caviar!

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I eat Grana Padano, it is as good as Parmigiano Reggiano and costs much less. Parmigiano is overpriced, like Brunello di Montalcino. I prefer Barbera and Pinot Grigio.
Tullio

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Thanks, Tullio. My cheese shop indeed does sell the Grana Padano variety. I will try that next time.

https://www.lotsapastalouisville.com/cheese

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The Cheese Shop - Monty Python

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https://www.lotsapastalouisville.com/cheese

That's a LOTSA CHEESE from all over the world:)
Maybe there is some more cheese on the moon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0qagA4_eVQ

Sorry, but the moon is a lot like the Earth, the moon is not made of Cheese.

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I wish I had one of these, right now -

https://krispykreme.com/menu/doughnuts

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I believe that they are overpriced.

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I believe that they are overpriced.

I agree. I went and they were out of most of them, and the ones they had were littler than what is pictured on that website.

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Introducing the gopnik butter knife.
A multi-tool replacing all your knives in your kitchen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xluGmpOanLs