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merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
Has anyone read or heard about this article or knows or has an opinion about it or the author? Thanks http://phys.org/news/2011-04-antimatter-gravity-universe-expansion.html merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11415 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Merle thanx for the good read. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Has anyone read or heard about this article or knows or has an opinion about it or the author? Supersymmetry predicts a partner particle for each particle in the Standard Model of physiscs. There are also 4 force carriers so why not 4 anti force carriers? http://home.web.cern.ch/about/physics/supersymmetry |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34060 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Merle thanx for the good read. +1, welcome back :) most physicists think that the gravitational behavior of antimatter should always be attractive, as it is for matter. However, the question of whether the gravitational interaction between matter and antimatter is attractive or repulsive so far has no clear answer. There is the overwhelming consensus among physicists that antimatter will attract both matter and antimatter at the same rate that matter attracts matter. They are dying to confirm this hypothesis. rOZZ Music Pictures |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
Matter and anti-matter will annihilate with nearly 100% efficiency in energy production. It is the ideal propulsion fantasy as seen in Star Trek. The problem is where do we get it or make it cheaply and in abundance and how do we store it. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
At CERN, the AEgIS experiment will test the gravitational bending of antihydrogen atoms. CERN is the main source of antimatter and has developed a series of traps, the Penning traps, to contain antimatter. Tullio |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Matter and anti-matter will annihilate with nearly 100% efficiency in energy production. It is the ideal propulsion fantasy as seen in Star Trek. The problem is where do we get it or make it cheaply and in abundance and how do we store it. Nobody has been capable of storing antihydrogen atoms so far, but this is the goal of our research collaboration in the ALPHA Project. http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~fajans/ALPHA_Spanish/EN_produccion%20new.htm The production and storage of antimatter is a costly process, both in terms of time and money. The production of a nanogram (a billionth of a gram) of antihydrogen costs a few hundred million euros. Correction:) In November 2010, the ALPHA collaboration announced that they had trapped 38 antihydrogen atoms for a sixth of a second,[21] the first confinement of neutral antimatter. In June 2011, trapped 309 antihydrogen atoms, up to 3 simultaneously, for up to 1,000 seconds.[22][23] They then studied its hyperfine structure, gravity effects, and charge. ALPHA will continue measurements along with experiments AEGIS and GBAR. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Read the September issue of CERN Courier. There is an article on antiprotons and antihydrogen. Tullio |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Thanks Tullio. I didn't know this: Antihydrogen has a magnetic dipole moment (that of the positron), which means that it can be captured in an inhomogeneous magnetic field. Scientists hope studying antihydrogen may shed light on the baryon asymmetry problem or why there is more matter than antimatter in the universe. |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
most physicists think that the gravitational behavior of antimatter should always be attractive, as it is for matter. However, the question of whether the gravitational interaction between matter and antimatter is attractive or repulsive so far has no clear answer. Great! Thanks everybody. I love the quote above the best. It answers the main question I had relating to this article. It's nice to know some people aren't sure of what they don't know yet. merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
At CERN, the AEgIS experiment will test the gravitational bending of antihydrogen atoms. CERN is the main source of antimatter and has developed a series of traps, the Penning traps, to contain antimatter. Thanks Tullio I would read that issue of CERN from sept, but I doubt I could understand it. Above you are saying that this experiment might confirm whether antimatter would attract or repulse matter gravitationally. Correct? When are they testing it and how long do you think it would take for some kind of answer? merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I don't know the timescale, but I shall follow the experiment and publish the result. It may be a stet forward. Tullio |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
At CERN, the AEgIS experiment will test the gravitational bending of antihydrogen atoms. CERN is the main source of antimatter and has developed a series of traps, the Penning traps, to contain antimatter. The principle of universality of free fall (or Weak Equivalence Principle, WEP) states that all bodies fall with the same acceleration, independent of mass and composition. The WEP has been tested with very high precision for matter but never (directly) for antimatter. Here is what the AEGIS experiment does. http://aegis.web.cern.ch/aegis/home.html The principal goal of the AEGIS experiment is to test the Weak Equivalence Principle with antihydrogen atoms at the European laboratory for particle physics (CERN), using the antiproton decelerator (AD) to provide antiprotons and a 22Na source to provide antielectrons, which we combine to form antihydrogen atoms. Tests with charged antiparticles are hopeless, given the extreme weakness of gravity in comparison with the other forces, while tests with (neutral) antihydrogen atoms are merely extremely difficult. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Has anyone read or heard about this article or knows or has an opinion about it or the author? Along with critique(2) for original paper(1) and the answer on that critique(3) all those 3 articles form quite interesting reading, thanks. And some citation from last one: Similarly, visible photons, i.e. retarded ones, are This provides experimental way to check this theory by astronomical observations instead of CERN-like particle measurements. Gravitation-related effects much more readily detected on astronomical scale than on micro-particle one. I did not hear about such type of gravitational lensing, AFAIK all found so far lenses (and they found in number) are from "plus-type" gravity. Would be interesting to find "minus-gravity" one... (1)http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1209/0295-5075/94/20001/meta;jsessionid=5257AC04603F89453F7C84F95C21B8BE.c1 (2)http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10509-011-0939-8 (3)http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.1201 |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
Merle thanx for the good read. Thanks for the welcome back Julie. It was bothering me that I didn't say that before. merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34060 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Merle thanx for the good read. No problem my friend. rOZZ Music Pictures |
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