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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19294 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
It was and always will be, that religions don't like those who try to find out and use the original texts, look up John Wycliffe. And the more that people are educated, then the greater the chances of all these wrongs being corrected. It's not that an educated person knows everything, but it increases the chances that they will know someone who does. i.e. I have a friendly acquaintance who just so happens to be a retired tax inspector. Guess who pays less taxes now. |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6657 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
One of the things I have posted before, is a saying from one of Stephen King's books. "The more you know, the less you believe." Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
http://helios.augustana.edu/~ew/des/illustrated-articles/su21.html Did you mean not allowed for 1500 years? Thought experiment: if those priests actually were believers, still, what did they know that made them make that joke about the bread? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
The more you learn, the more you learn that it's more to learn:) |
Dave(The Admiral)Nelson Send message Joined: 4 Jun 99 Posts: 415 Credit: 22,293,483 RAC: 1 |
When two priests meet on the street they have too look away from each other lest they break out laughing. Dave Nelson |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
When the devil becomes old, he becomes religious. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30903 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
When two priests meet on the street they have too look away from each other lest they break out laughing. Having had the experience of a Catholic priest flip me the bird and take the name of the lord in vain, I' sure that is so true. Then again the priest at my father's Episcopal church is a Jew. |
Philosopher8659 Send message Joined: 21 Oct 15 Posts: 97 Credit: 2,696 RAC: 0 |
Was it not written, We testify to that which we have seen, and speak of that which we have known. Personally, Never met the guy. However, it is also written, in several places of the Judeo-Christian Scripture that it is sealed to man's understanding until a particular time in history. That I do know about. The mind is wholly linguistic by function. It is sealed not by magic, but by principles of language which are not functionally resident in the mind of man. That is why at a particular time in human history, someone would be sent, Christ spoke of that time, to teach man Law. Language is effected as standards of behavior, Standards of behavior is called Law. As was written, the Book is a test of the mind of man. I think people should read it more carefully, after learning how to think. https://archive.org/details/AUniversalLanguage https://archive.org/details/TheDifferenceBetweenManAndBeast https://archive.org/details/DelianQuest2015 |
Dave(The Admiral)Nelson Send message Joined: 4 Jun 99 Posts: 415 Credit: 22,293,483 RAC: 1 |
When the devil becomes old, he becomes religious. Have you read the Marquis de Sade's "Dialogue Between a Priest and a Dying Atheist?" Dave Nelson |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
When the devil becomes old, he becomes religious. No. I didn't even know that Marquis de Sade was in to religous stuff. I thought he was more secular. |
Dave(The Admiral)Nelson Send message Joined: 4 Jun 99 Posts: 415 Credit: 22,293,483 RAC: 1 |
It's just a small phamplet, about 15 pages. Dave Nelson |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
It's just a small phamplet, about 15 pages. I think I found it here. http://www.sade-ecrivain.com/Dialogue-Between-a-Priest-and-a-Dying-Man.html Seems like de Sade was very much an atheist. PRIEST - Come to this the fatal hour when at last from the eyes of deluded man the scales must fall away, and be shown the cruel picture of his errors and his vices - say, my son, do you not repent the host of sins unto which you were led by weakness and human frailty? |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6657 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
Was it not written, We testify to that which we have seen, and speak of that which we have known. But if Christ was a human invention, then what? Should I not use the brain that I have? Steve Edit: We should all pick up the rock, and look under it. See what is there, and make a decision afterwords. Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
Dave(The Admiral)Nelson Send message Joined: 4 Jun 99 Posts: 415 Credit: 22,293,483 RAC: 1 |
Philo; "As was written, the Book is a test of the mind of man. I think people should read it more carefully, after learning how to think." What book? Dave Nelson |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Philo; The Quran? |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Thanks Steve... Any thoughts on what I posted regarding Luther's trip to Rome? |
Dave(The Admiral)Nelson Send message Joined: 4 Jun 99 Posts: 415 Credit: 22,293,483 RAC: 1 |
No, but if they had burned him as a heretic they would have saved the world a lot of trouble. Dave Nelson |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
My thought is, what stopped him from going beyond simply thinking it was due to a corrupt Catholic church? What stopped him from going a step further, from thinking maybe the whole thing was a big charade? |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
My thought is, what stopped him from going beyond simply thinking it was due to a corrupt Catholic church? What stopped him from going a step further, from thinking maybe the whole thing was a big charade? I was referring to Luther and his reaction to (among other things), "Bread thou art and bread thou shall remain." |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
My thought is, what stopped him from going beyond simply thinking it was due to a corrupt Catholic church? What stopped him from going a step further, from thinking maybe the whole thing was a big charade? That's possible. I believe it's 1 of about 3 ways things could've gone down. I wonder if it being a charade ever even crossed his mind but he was too afraid to think more about that, let alone speak it aloud. |
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