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Message 1723947 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 19:48:27 UTC - in response to Message 1723934.  

The "free market" at it's finest.
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Message 1723995 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 22:28:02 UTC - in response to Message 1723980.  

The "free market" at it's finest.


There is no "free market" in prescription medication.

Exactly, and that is one of the things wrong with our health care system.
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Message 1724044 - Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 0:48:50 UTC
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here in florida if you do not have a lot of money and can afford insurance you will get free health insurance provided you have a job and meet the requirements to be categorized in the poverty level

united way is providing this

only thing you have to pay (if you have to pay anything relating to copay ) is ranging from 5$ to 20$ depending on your income

they will pay for almost any treatment or surgery you might need
but they will keep tabs on you and make sure you not cheating the system

antibiotic are free if you get them prescribed ... the publix supermarket chain is the ones providing this

walgreens has a program that is 20$ a year and gives you discounted rates on medication and in cases where you need these meds to live united way will pickup the tab

i fyou are an employee of the local hospital the hospital will give you free walkin services with a 10$ deductible
they will also allow emergency room services for dirt cheap and they let you use a state of the art fitness studio including trainers
I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap
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Message 1724049 - Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 1:01:34 UTC

In our latest free trade talks with the USA the yanks want us to get rid of our Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and extend the time limit for Pharmaceutical Patents.

Never going to happen in my lifetime.

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Message 1724056 - Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 1:10:30 UTC
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Those are lobbyists from the pharmaceutical companies that got paid to lobby it

the average american could't care less about other countrys benefits

the only ones complaining about free or almost free healthcare are the filthy rich and companies that would then be controlled and given a price instead of these ultra high prices

doctors complain because the corrupt ones cannot overcharge you anymore and give you unnecessary procedures

their biggest scam is coming in quick looking at you for 5 minutes then tell you to come back tomorrow for other stuff yet they charge you 20-50$ copay every time you come in and that is why they want you to come back multiple times

there is no reason a hospital will charge you 47$ for a vicodin or oxi or aspirin .. pick a pill if you like the prices are 1000% inflated
I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap
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Message 1724057 - Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 1:11:12 UTC - in response to Message 1724054.  
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In our latest free trade talks with the USA the yanks want us to get rid of our Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and extend the time limit for Pharmaceutical Patents.

Never going to happen in my lifetime.

Cheers.

It never hurts to ask.
Few things are "deal breakers", but it's always best to check the fine print.

More so when these so called "free trade" talks' "fine print" are very 1 sided. ;-)

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Message 1724071 - Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 1:29:04 UTC - in response to Message 1723947.  

The "free market" at it's finest.

Ah yes. Can't afford to keep the production line open. Happens all the time. Drugs come off patent, everybody and their mothers uncle starts selling them, the price crashes, the suppliers lose their arse and it gets down to one maker. He can't raise prices and he can't sell enough to make it up on volume; never mind the next patent drug that he could put down the line will make him got-bucks.

That is the free market.
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Message 1724268 - Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 15:27:32 UTC - in response to Message 1724245.  

We, in The USA, do have Free Government Health Care.

It is called the Veterans Health Administration.

This Free Health Care is sooooo Corrupt, Disorganized, and Incompetent:

Only a Deranged Idiot, would have Civilian Health Care run by our Totally Incompetent Government.

VA(Government Run Healthcare) efficiency in reality..........Denver VA hospital $1 billion over budget
http://www.9news.com/story/news/investigations/casualties-of-care/2015/03/17/denver-va-hospital-1-billion-over-budget/24925269/

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Message 1727632 - Posted: 21 Sep 2015, 21:31:28 UTC
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Message 1727774 - Posted: 22 Sep 2015, 5:00:23 UTC - in response to Message 1727632.  

Hedge funder buys rights to drug used by AIDS patients and raises price from $13.50 to $750 per pill

also in CEO who raised price of old pill more than $700 calls journalist a ‘moron’ for asking why

Yes, the journalist is a moron. People need it like they need air. They will pay any price to get it. So charge accordingly. Aren't IP rights grand?
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Message 1727799 - Posted: 22 Sep 2015, 7:02:20 UTC - in response to Message 1727774.  

Hedge funder buys rights to drug used by AIDS patients and raises price from $13.50 to $750 per pill

also in CEO who raised price of old pill more than $700 calls journalist a ‘moron’ for asking why

Yes, the journalist is a moron. People need it like they need air. They will pay any price to get it. So charge accordingly. Aren't IP rights grand?

U forget it's a 60+y old drug...so some generic company will make IT & sell IT for $20-50!
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Message 1727829 - Posted: 22 Sep 2015, 10:50:52 UTC - in response to Message 1727675.  

I suspect that this is just another example of marketing to the rich and stupid.
How else can you get the Kardashians to take their pills unless you charge them
the same amount that they're willing to pay for a gram of "Pure Peruvian Flake".
I suspect that anyone who really needs the drug, and can't afford it, will get it.
All the media attention really is cutting into the effectiveness of the marketing hype.

Whats the point of marketing a life saving medicine to the rich and stupid? Its not some diet pill that helps you lose weight or something, its a drug you only take when you have a very specific illness. Those kind of drugs don't need marketing.
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Message 1727852 - Posted: 22 Sep 2015, 13:07:10 UTC - in response to Message 1727829.  

I suspect that this is just another example of marketing to the rich and stupid.
How else can you get the Kardashians to take their pills unless you charge them
the same amount that they're willing to pay for a gram of "Pure Peruvian Flake".
I suspect that anyone who really needs the drug, and can't afford it, will get it.
All the media attention really is cutting into the effectiveness of the marketing hype.

Whats the point of marketing a life saving medicine to the rich and stupid? Its not some diet pill that helps you lose weight or something, its a drug you only take when you have a very specific illness. Those kind of drugs don't need marketing.

marketing = FREE skying for doctors on conference!
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Message 1727861 - Posted: 22 Sep 2015, 13:27:24 UTC - in response to Message 1727848.  

lol.
Advertising is different from marketing.
Marketing involves setting price points, negotiating availability, and maybe advertising.
For the "rich+stupid" price is more important than quality/need/fashion.
The few people who pay full fare will probably get better faster because it's so expensive. Call it placebo+efficacy.
The "rich+stupid" won't even question the sticker price, they'll just think they're getting premium health care.

Right, so you are saying that the rich and stupid also take chemo therapy drugs when they don't have cancer as long as you make it expensive enough?

Again, this involves a drug that is used to treat a very specific condition, people who aren't sick will not be taking this medicine.
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Message 1727863 - Posted: 22 Sep 2015, 13:30:26 UTC - in response to Message 1727852.  

I suspect that this is just another example of marketing to the rich and stupid.
How else can you get the Kardashians to take their pills unless you charge them
the same amount that they're willing to pay for a gram of "Pure Peruvian Flake".
I suspect that anyone who really needs the drug, and can't afford it, will get it.
All the media attention really is cutting into the effectiveness of the marketing hype.

Whats the point of marketing a life saving medicine to the rich and stupid? Its not some diet pill that helps you lose weight or something, its a drug you only take when you have a very specific illness. Those kind of drugs don't need marketing.

marketing = FREE skying for doctors on conference!
;)

Hehehe.
In our country its however difficult because the IRS are closely monitoring doctors.
I know a dentist that went to France with a colleague and the IRS was asking if the trip was necessary!
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Message 1727880 - Posted: 22 Sep 2015, 14:11:26 UTC

The reason for a $1300 price on a pill is not the rich+stupid, it's the rich+stupid+greedy+politicians who are getting posh paying jobs as lobbyists for big pharma. Big pharma and scumbag attorneys/hedgefunders know that the price will be paid, not by individuals but by the government. FULL price.

A runaway spendthrift government who will pay $1,000 for a military grade toilet seat or screwdriver will justify paying any price for a life saving drug to appear to be doing good. The people suffer and big bloat just keeps getting fatter. This is what happens when you mandate 'universal' health care with the insurance companies and government in charge. Theft, Fraud, Corruption, and Deceit are the real 'four horsemen' of the coming apocalypse.

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Message 1727898 - Posted: 22 Sep 2015, 14:42:15 UTC - in response to Message 1727880.  

A runaway spendthrift government who will pay $1,000 for a military grade toilet seat or screwdriver will justify paying any price for a life saving drug to appear to be doing good. The people suffer and big bloat just keeps getting fatter. This is what happens when you mandate 'universal' health care with the insurance companies and government in charge. Theft, Fraud, Corruption, and Deceit are the real 'four horsemen' of the coming apocalypse.

No, thats pretty much an American problem. Other countries that have universal healthcare or mandated health insurance have much lower healthcare costs than in the US. And that has been the case for a long time, Americans have been paying comparatively a lot more than people in other countries.
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Message 1727899 - Posted: 22 Sep 2015, 14:47:13 UTC - in response to Message 1727880.  
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Theft, Fraud, Corruption, and Deceit are the real 'four horsemen' of the coming apocalypse.

Thats very true!
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Message 1727904 - Posted: 22 Sep 2015, 14:50:17 UTC - in response to Message 1727898.  
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A runaway spendthrift government who will pay $1,000 for a military grade toilet seat or screwdriver will justify paying any price for a life saving drug to appear to be doing good. The people suffer and big bloat just keeps getting fatter. This is what happens when you mandate 'universal' health care with the insurance companies and government in charge. Theft, Fraud, Corruption, and Deceit are the real 'four horsemen' of the coming apocalypse.
Americans have been paying comparatively a lot more than people in other countries.

Yes twice as much.
But that include expensive lawyers in the US....
There is lawyers in the hospital waiting rooms that happily give out business cards.
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