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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Those of us with Type II and actively treating it are well aware of the benefits of exercise and diet. However in older folks or those with disabilities (such as my bum leg) prevents exercise at the levels needed to affect the condition. Well, I have firsthand knowledge of the condition, as Lori's brother in law fights it. He carries too much weight, and seems unwilling or unable to control it, which further makes controlling his insulin levels more difficult. He has been on the insulin price merry go round for years now, and used to be able to get some relief via the Canadian route. That seems to have fallen through, and he has no choice now but to pay and pay. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
My particular form of Type II was diagnosed 11 years ago. I have successfully treated it by diet, exercise and an oral med called Metformin(commonly prescribed initially). My Doc was amazed and has used me as a study case(he is a teaching resident and Diabetes Specialist at a major Denver Hospital). Last September I ruptured the Gastrocnemius (Large Calf Muscle) and injured the tendons and joints in my left leg/ankle and was basically immobile for 3 months. So much for my daily 3 mile walk in the park. Results were higher A1C than desired and an additional Oral med(still no Insulin prescribed). Progress has been slow and pain has been sometimes overwhelming when stretching the affected tendons. Another problem with treating my condition is that I am allergic to Sulfa and most Glucophages are Sulfa based which limits my Doc's choices of meds. The exercise routine is growing slowly and returning my A1C levels to acceptable levels but I guess I underestimated my recuperative abilities at 68. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Here's a idea emmegrate to Australia once you have residency you will be able to get your insulin for only $2.50 a script and all the other drugs you may need all only $2.50. Medicare is such a great thing we have and to think it's cost less than the English version is cheaper than the American system too. I guess they have to gouge some as some are to silly to know how to play the drug company's against them self's and keep prices low . |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30758 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
My particular form of Type II was diagnosed 11 years ago. I have successfully treated it by diet, exercise and an oral med called Metformin(commonly prescribed initially). FYI my last refill of Metformin, 90 day supply, was under $10 at Costco, no insurance, with Costco RX med plan (free). It sounds like your insurance is paying for my prescription to be cheap. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
My particular form of Type II was diagnosed 11 years ago. I have successfully treated it by diet, exercise and an oral med called Metformin(commonly prescribed initially). Mine is free(except to the taxpayers) through the Part D if I order 90 days by mail. At Costco it's $6 for 90 days. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
i am disabled retired and have been since i was 48 i use lantus pens there 1500 dollars for a box of 5 i also use humulin-r also about 1500 dollars a month the pain med's i am on come to twice that and i am on several other meds including metformin the only drug i pay for is the tetracycline which costs me 10.80 a month cash with a goodrx coupon. when i found out how much the pens cost i had 4 boxes when i run out i will be going back to the vial which is cheaper i have controlled my type 2 diabetes with diet but having been mostly bedridden this is hard. because i do not pay there is very little incentive for me to shop for the best care at the best price. this and and countries like those in the uk and europe dictating what drug companies can make shifts the burden to those who will pay. this is why if you go into a hospital with no insurance an aspirin costs 20 bucks.the only fix for this is for people like me or the insured to start shopping for services. the one thing that the government might be able to do in this is to provide a way to assess the expected cost of treatment and reward those that found their services for less and let those who went way over share some of that cost.the average american will not shop unless it hits his or her pocket. |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
my point is in the us if you are well off and have good insurance you do not care what it cost. if you are poor as i am and poor being a relative thing in most of the world i am well off you also do not pay. and because of this we do not see the real cost of these things. the only people in the us who do see the cost are the working poor comprised mostly the middle class with bills that can't be counted to reclassify them as poor. because of this there is no real check on the balance. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
because i do not pay there is very little incentive for me to shop for So when are you lot going to jump on the Universal health care train and stop being suckers as it already is costing you in the hip pocket . Oh one thing you pay high priceses because you are suckers . Our government has taken Drugs off the PBS system we have here WHY ? They are no longer worth the money , IE: drug companys do and are ripping people off about the cost of drugs and what they actually do . Some drugs never make it on the PBS WHY ? there straight out lie's and don't work . Untill you do have a system like our P.B.S you Americans will continue to be ripped off |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
we are a nation of shoppers after all shopping is the most important thing in the universe .lol let us shop and the market will take care of the rest. universal health does not fix the problem it shifts the burden. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
we are a nation of shoppers after all shopping is the most important Technically universal healthcare shares the burden rather than shifts it. Your expensive healthcare costs have absolutely nothing to do with other people having universal health care. Reality Internet Personality |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30758 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
So when are you lot going to jump on the Universal health care train and stop being suckers as it already is costing you in the hip pocket . You mean that isn't Obamacare? Then why when we fiscal conservatives said it was crap and only going to raise prices did all of you from the rest of the world jump on our throats and tell us to approve it because universal healthcare was this wonderful thing?! I simply can't believe any liberal would have thought putting wall street in charge of medicine would be a good thing! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Why is healthcare costs so very big in the US? Almost twice as much then all other countries in the world. List of countries by total health expenditure (PPP) per capita. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_(PPP)_per_capita |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11366 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I simply can't believe any liberal would have thought putting wall street in charge of medicine would be a good thing! + ∞ |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Why is healthcare costs so very big in the US? Frivolous lawsuits generated by unethical lawyers seeking to make their fortunes driving up insurance costs to compensate causing doctors and medical facilities to keep raising their prices to cover the insurance costs generated by unethical lawyers filing frivolous lawsuits. Partial Answer: Tort Reform and Legal sanctions on repeated attorney offenders. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Am I the only one getting sick and tired of Glenn's cocky know it all attitude around here? His US bashing is enough to make one wanna smack him down hard. I have friends in Ozland, but he is not one of them. Just asking if I am overly offended, or if others feel as I do. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
"Filter" is your friend! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
"Filter" is your friend! I suppose that I am on more 'filter' lists than anybody else on the planet. I do not use them myself, however. Everybody has a right to be heard, and whether I like them or not, I will at least listen. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11366 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Why is healthcare costs so very big in the US? In three years the insulin has gone up over 400%. Nobody else makes it and people on insulin don't have any other options. So you don't think Bob's observation in starting this thread is a major component? |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Why is healthcare costs so very big in the US? Shitcan the lawyers and their money making lawsuits and healthcare costs would go down 500%. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30758 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Why is healthcare costs so very big in the US? Why do you think only one company is willing to make it anymore? Lawsuits? |
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