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Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9956 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
One of your more senior Moderators had this to say recently The moderators are all equal and there is no such thing as "a more senior moderator".. I also believe the quote is mine. When posts need hiding and threads need locking then I am sure one of the moderators will do that. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24903 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
12 places above the UK? Hmmmm, think it could be time to return home. :-) 7 United States of America |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
[quote] If you look at the GPI Global Peace Index you get a slightly different scoring:) http://www.visionofhumanity.org/#/page/indexes/global-peace-index Iceland here I come:) Forgot the winter there... New Zealand here I come. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24903 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Much better... ...be interesting to see 2020's index after another 5 years of the Tories. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Much better... Hmmm. Ireland. Score very high both in freedom and peace:) And it's a member of EU which means that I can go there and work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46EXY4oP1Do I like Irish songs:) |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
Golly gosh!! Glad I don't live in either Germany, France or Belgium, none feature in the top 30 at all. Funny, all are strong proponents of a United States of Europe...makes one think "what do they really want"?...for us all. ...a dictatorship??? The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24903 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
...also, don't forget the other 16 Euro nations not in the top 30 :-) |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
...also, don't forget the other 16 Euro nations not in the top 30 :-) Shish-kebab Sirius, where's Europe heading?....Glad Farage is back he might save us from a fate worse than death!! The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Can a free independent people can do as they wish without your, and other Puritan's, stupid or worse, 'finger waving'? No puritan mate common cents You have a drivers lic , "yes" , government made the laws that say you need one , "yse" So buy your thinking not having a reason to have a lic is good enough to driver without one . why is voting any different , right !! Buy your words , They (Peasants, Masses, Great Washed) are stupid, or worse thinking. who's the one whom thinks there 'superior' and the masses can't think , ......NOT ME |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Hey Janne we are no. 4 bro ! come on down mate ... 1 New Zealand on second thought wait till we get rid of the nob head we got as a P.M then come on down . |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I would have said snotty. Or shitey. Love this webshite. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
US at 7? Slightly surprised. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
are by no means free. However lets look at the freedom scores: Wouldn't it be more constructive to talk about how the index is determined (who creates it, where is it from) and where you disagree with its assessment? Please, tell us, how is Es manipulating it to suit her purposes? More snitty comments from you?[/quotte] So, "snitty comment" is, in fact, not a comment about the comment but rather a comment about you? Fascinating interpretation. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
...also, don't forget the other 16 Euro nations not in the top 30 :-) You will notice that most of the countries in the top 5 are pro-immigration. Reality Internet Personality |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
You will notice that most of the countries in the top 5 are pro-immigration. Well i did say wait till nob head Tony Abbot is out before coming here to Australia . Can't speck for the other country's thou . |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24903 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Having stormed the castle, Cameron is now pulling up the drawbridge, and making sure that the Tories will still be in charge in 5, 10, 20 years time. You have been warned. It is their political leaders that are riding upon this wave of current euphoria and want to sever the ties. Can you blame them? |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14669 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Yes we should have Human Rights reform, I agree on that. "We" collectively don't want it, although there are many different opinions. It's just factional minorities - in both the public at large, and more specifically within the Conservative party right now - that want these things. In the British constitution - such as it is - each MP that is elected is supposed represent and assist all residents in their voting district, not just their own voters or party members: even more so on the larger scale, Parliament as a whole is supposed to govern in the best interests of the whole country. That's the theory, at least - but it very rarely happens. That's why we lurch from side to side every decade or so: each party governs in their own image for long enough to really, really annoy the other side, and then they get their turn to get their own back. Consensus, collaboration, long term planning? Not a chance. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14669 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
We have a widely regarded problem in the UK with far to many people who should be deported for the National good, that claim they can stay under EU Human Rights. We have the situation where Strasbourg can overturn our own British laws. That is intolerable and cannot be allowed to continue. However there are certain constitutional matters that will have to be sorted out properly along the way. That's a very small part of the work of the Human Rights Act/Court, and yet the knee-jerk reactions it provokes overwhelm every other aspect. We are about to throw out all the good work it's done over the decades, just because of this one issue. And remember that Britain was a (the?) prime mover in setting up the system in the first place: it was made in our image, in the British definition of Human Rights - when the British still thought that foreigners were human beings. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24903 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
when the British still thought that foreigners were human beings. So what changed? |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14669 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Possibly so Richard, but time has moved on and many people including me think that Britain is being taken for a mug. NHS abuse by people not entitled, terrorists allowed to stay here, people on benefits sending money home to other countries, it is all one bubbling cauldron of soup. And it needs dealing with. The ECHR reform is just one component of that. So let's review and revise the European system, so that everyone else gets the benefit of our 'superior' (hah!) thinking too. |
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