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Message 1710033 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 13:54:46 UTC

Kinda sounds like Windows VISTA, or Millenium, or DOS 5 for that matter. Just release it and let the user bear the pain.....typical M$ B$.

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Message 1710035 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 13:59:25 UTC - in response to Message 1710033.  

Kinda sounds like Windows VISTA, or Millenium, or DOS 5 for that matter. Just release it and let the user bear the pain.....typical M$ B$.

+1

I've always been an early adopter that is until Win 8. Only ran 8/8.1 in a VM. Didn't like it so stuck with 7.

10 has only confirmed to me that MS has lost the plot in attempting to have a mobile environment on a desktop.

Change is good, change is progressive, but my workstation is not an iPhone.
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Message 1710038 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 14:16:08 UTC - in response to Message 1710035.  

oh I agree, Why on my PC the help files say tap this, swipe that ... I got a freaking mouse not a touch screen tablet!!!
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Message 1710041 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 14:24:06 UTC

I Pity the Fool that installs Windows 10.........



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Message 1710051 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 14:54:33 UTC
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Well, I'm on Windows 10. There is certainly a learning curve, but so far the only real difficulty is that I could not get BOINC 6.10.58 to work. It just kept trying to connect to the client. I tried to reinstall it, but that failed, so I jumped to the latest released version, and resumed crunching.

I haven't connected my other drives yet, as I am making sure my files will stay on my computer, and not head for the cloud.

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Message 1710064 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 15:36:01 UTC - in response to Message 1710025.  

In other words, Service Pack 0.01 is out.

No, Service Pack 0.02, as that cumulative update was an update to the previous cumulative update KB3074683 dated July 29th, 2015. So it was installed immediately upon Windows install.
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Message 1710083 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 16:39:13 UTC

May I add:
Dos 5.0 Ok
Dos 6.0 Crap
Dos 6.1 Ok
Windows 1.0 Crap
Windows 3.0 Ok

Win 95 OK
Win 98 crap
Win 98 SE OK
Win Millenium Crap
Win XP OK
Win Vista crap
Win 7 OK
Win 8 crap
Win 8.1 OK
Win 10 crap

The only Personal OS I had no problem with was PET Dos. It never crashed running F15 Strike Eagle on my Commodore 64. ":D

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Message 1710089 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 16:50:40 UTC - in response to Message 1710078.  

Still don't see what problems people had with Windows Millennium. It ran fine on my system for years. Only had to reinstall it once when I reformatted the wrong drive.

It had a couple of things people now take for granted, and things that Windows 98 didn't have. Windows Update for instance, system restore (making of a restore point!), Universal Plug and Play and WIA or Windows Image Acquisition without which you wouldn't be able to attach a printer, scanner, webcams, cameras, phones etc. and have Windows install it automatically.

WinME also came with a new TCP/IP stack, inbuilt ZIP support, image preview, and the USB mass storage generic device driver.

And it came with Movie Maker, one of the programs causing the apparent stability problems. You could, with aid of a third party program, uninstall Movie Maker and be left with a rock-solid OS. It ran for years on my system, before I switched to Windows 2000.
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Message 1710098 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 17:36:47 UTC

frickin windows turns some of the privacy crap back on every day that i turned off which includes syncing to phone

i don't need none of that crap and i don't want it i will block all connections to their advertising servers and other crud i don't want

i need my cpu cycles for crunching not displaying ads on a machine i never see
I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap
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Message 1710139 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 19:31:39 UTC - in response to Message 1710128.  

frickin windows turns some of the privacy crap back on every day that i turned off which includes syncing to phone

i don't need none of that crap and i don't want it i will block all connections to their advertising servers and other crud i don't want

i need my cpu cycles for crunching not displaying ads on a machine i never see

I can't say I'm surprised. I've seen that claim on several other places on the net recently.

It's free, but you will be forced to have the settings as MS demands. If you change the privacy settings, MS will in due time send through Windows Update, a KB which will turn it back to the way MS wants it to be. Probably sneak it into some update MS call Cumulative Update.

Hehe, this W10 F'up is getting better and better all the time. My decision from the very beginning seems to have been spot on, eh?.



I just block all that junk in my Edgerouter pro and be done with it
If microsoft wants to be a pain in my behind i got a fix for that hrhr
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Message 1710166 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 20:44:12 UTC

Well, GOOD news! :-) Months ago, a guy I know from Folding@home sent me a MOBO and CPU combo that he no longer was using. I let it sit until now. Opened the box to find a Core 2 Extreme 3.0 GHz processor on a Gigabyte MOBO with Dual BIOS and NO attached video card!!!

Got that installed into Prometheus, moved the RAM from Old Prometheus to New Prometheus, installed GTX-750 TI SC, installed existing 250 GB drive, and THOUGHT I was done. Now the BAD news... Win 7 Pro x64 refused to boot because of the MOBO and CPU change... Bought a new larger drive and installed Win 7 Pro x64 on that; made the 250 a slave drive, and read from it copying ALL of my data to the new drive. Reinstalled ALL apps, and two days later after all the fine tuning and getting Prometheus back to where I want it to be, NVIDIA Driver 353.30 now works!!!

Now I'm ready for Win 10!!! :-)


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Message 1710180 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 21:14:49 UTC

Noticed the other day that I am getting quite a lot of "Windows Explorer has crashed" messages again, even when not doing anything. Seeing how Holly's computer is now also starting to give those message, I smell a rat. Highly suspect this is Microsoft's doing, that they sent an 'Update' that is now crashing Explorer, so you're forced to move to Windohnoze 10.
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Message 1710183 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 21:49:23 UTC

I stayed with Firefox through the upgrade, and even though I found out how to add my Firefox bookmarks to Edge, i still prefer Firefox.

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Message 1710186 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 21:54:37 UTC

same junk as internet exploder plus edge spies on you
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Message 1710189 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 22:01:54 UTC - in response to Message 1710083.  

May I add:
Dos 5.0 Ok
Dos 6.0 Crap
Dos 6.1 Ok
Windows 1.0 Crap
Windows 3.0 Ok


Microsoft didn't release DOS 6.1. DOS 6.1 was released by IBM, and thus called PC DOS.

MS-DOS 6.00 - Microsoft
PC DOS 6.1 - IBM
MS-DOS 6.2 - Microsoft
MS-DOS 6.21 - Microsoft
MS-DOS 6.22 - Microsoft
PC DOS 6.3 - IBM
PC DOS 7 - IBM
PC DOS 2000 - IBM
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Message 1710191 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 22:19:37 UTC

Dos originated from IBM our friend bill conned them out of it and released it now they bitching about piracy

His whole company is based of piracy
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Message 1710192 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 22:24:45 UTC - in response to Message 1710119.  

Millennium when it did run properly was actually very good as Mike will testify. Unfortunately for 95% of people it didn't run properly!

Yep.
There were some issues with System Restore on some systems, but the biggest issues were with Active Desktop in particular & the Plug & Play implementation.
However many of the issues weren't due to the OS, but the applications/drivers. But the OS got the blame for the poor work of the 3rd parties.
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Message 1710195 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 22:32:26 UTC - in response to Message 1710191.  
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Dos originated from IBM our friend bill conned them out of it and released it now they bitching about piracy

His whole company is based of piracy


Umm... that's not even close to true. DOS was the product of 86-DOS (a.k.a. QDOS) from Seattle Computer Products.

IBM had approached Gary Kildall of Digital Research to make their OS, but Gary didn't want to sign the non-disclosure agreement, and he wanted royalties based upon every copy sold.

Microsoft was only going to provide their BASIC interpreter to IBM, and Bill thought the future was in Unix. Microsoft even had their own Unix variant called Xenix. When the negotiations fell apart between IBM and Gary Kildall, IBM approached Microsoft for an OS.

Microsoft knew of Seattle Computer Product's 86-DOS as a rising standard for 16bit microprocessors, and approached them to buy it outright - which they did. Microsoft then went to IBM and made deal that, instead of royalties, Microsoft would get to sell the OS independently.

Since, at the time, there wasn't a big market for selling Operating Systems, IBM agreed to the deal. Microsoft then originally didn't even sell DOS to end-users directly, but to other companies like Compaq (and the Compaq-DOS), or Mitsubishi (Mitsubishi-DOS).

But DOS in no way originated at IBM, and Bill did not conn them out of it.
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Message 1710203 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 23:06:31 UTC - in response to Message 1710119.  

Millennium when it did run properly was actually very good as Mike will testify. Unfortunately for 95% of people it didn't run properly!

I would say that DOS 6.22 was better than DOS 6.1, and that DOS 5 was probably the best OS that M$ has ever made.


You are absolutely correct Chris, my memory fogs up now and then.

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Message 1710205 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 23:24:58 UTC

i like my story better :)
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