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Message 1721347 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 16:22:45 UTC
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Not really Windows related, but similarly addicting. No really. Especially for you loving your Cortana.

Last night I watched this video showing the Google logo evolving over the years. In it there's a section about what you can do with "Ok Google".

Did you know you can talk to your phone to tell it to send a text to person X your contact list and tell what's in the text? Did you know you can write emails like that? Did you know you can set an alarm easily that way? Turn off your WIFI, search on the internet, search on your phone, use any app on your phone just by saying its name.

I'm shocked. Have had this smart phone for almost 2 years and didn't know it was that smart. With a sexy voice as well.

While in the video it works quite well in foreign languages, I found it's quite easily confused in Dutch. So am using mostly English for it. Addicting. Yes, really. :)
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Message 1721362 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 16:48:05 UTC - in response to Message 1721325.  

while trying to do a repair install of Win7, I was told that the version of Windows on the PC is 'newer than the one on disk'.

-[ snip ]-

See if the info (LONG, with pictures and links) on this page will help you (I read it only partially)
"Non-destructive reinstall of Windows Vista or 7"
https://www.winhelp.us/non-destructive-reinstall-of-windows-7.html

-[ snip ]-

Greetings BilBg,

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! :)

I do believe you found the correct link to follow. On that page it states that if the original disk does not contain any service packs, they need to be uninstalled first for the repair install to work. I have looked on the package, the jewel case and the disk and found no indication that it contains SP1.

The instructions I was following the other day made no mention of service packs on the page or at least I never read it and I had read pretty much the whole page where it applied to my situation. I had read all the warnings, options, whatever and saw no mention.

Tomorrow, when I have more time, I will attempt the repair install again, after I uninstall SP1. Thanks again! :)

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Message 1721384 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 17:27:19 UTC - in response to Message 1721347.  

Not really Windows related, but similarly addicting. No really. Especially for you loving your Cortana.

Last night I watched this video showing the Google logo evolving over the years. In it there's a section about what you can do with "Ok Google".

Did you know you can talk to your phone to tell it to send a text to person X your contact list and tell what's in the text? Did you know you can write emails like that? Did you know you can set an alarm easily that way? Turn off your WIFI, search on the internet, search on your phone, use any app on your phone just by saying its name.

I'm shocked. Have had this smart phone for almost 2 years and didn't know it was that smart. With a sexy voice as well.

While in the video it works quite well in foreign languages, I found it's quite easily confused in Dutch. So am using mostly English for it. Addicting. Yes, really. :)

For me the novelty wore off after a day or two on my phone. Now I have shut that stuff off to save battery power given that it is actually faster for me to do all of the functions without speaking & having to try 5-10 times to correct what it thinks I said.
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Message 1721403 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 17:59:15 UTC

Tomorrow, when I have more time, I will attempt the repair install again, after I uninstall SP1. Thanks again! :)


I really admire your patients. After so, so ,so much fiddling with it, if you EVER get it to work somewhat, you will end up with a totally unstable system.
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Message 1721425 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 19:27:44 UTC - in response to Message 1721384.  

...& having to try 5-10 times to correct what it thinks I said.

Pro-noun-cia-tion. :-)
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Message 1721431 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 19:41:38 UTC - in response to Message 1721384.  
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Not really Windows related, but similarly addicting. No really. Especially for you loving your Cortana.

Last night I watched this video showing the Google logo evolving over the years. In it there's a section about what you can do with "Ok Google".

Did you know you can talk to your phone to tell it to send a text to person X your contact list and tell what's in the text? Did you know you can write emails like that? Did you know you can set an alarm easily that way? Turn off your WIFI, search on the internet, search on your phone, use any app on your phone just by saying its name.

I'm shocked. Have had this smart phone for almost 2 years and didn't know it was that smart. With a sexy voice as well.

While in the video it works quite well in foreign languages, I found it's quite easily confused in Dutch. So am using mostly English for it. Addicting. Yes, really. :)

For me the novelty wore off after a day or two on my phone. Now I have shut that stuff off to save battery power given that it is actually faster for me to do all of the functions without speaking & having to try 5-10 times to correct what it thinks I said.

In New Hampshire, there is a hands free law, which means you can't use a cell phone while driving. I have mine mounted on the dash, so my wife can get it if it rings. I also have it set to answer me even if it is locked. There are occasions where my wife and I are discussing something, and a question comes up. While I am driving, with both hands on the wheel, I ask Google, and get an answer my wife can read while I drive. This has proven to work awesomely. I never have to lift a finger, and the phone does what I want. I often use the set alarm feature when I am cooking dinner. I just tell the phone to go off at a specific duration or exact time. What a handy device!

Steve

Edit: Depending on the question I ask it, it sometimes just speaks the answer, and my wife doesn't even have to read it.
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Message 1721432 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 19:45:23 UTC

My Crunching have become worse after I switch to win 10 on my home computer.
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Message 1721435 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 19:56:57 UTC - in response to Message 1721347.  

Not really Windows related, but similarly addicting. No really. Especially for you loving your Cortana.

Last night I watched this video showing the Google logo evolving over the years. In it there's a section about what you can do with "Ok Google".

Did you know you can talk to your phone to tell it to send a text to person X your contact list and tell what's in the text? Did you know you can write emails like that? Did you know you can set an alarm easily that way? Turn off your WIFI, search on the internet, search on your phone, use any app on your phone just by saying its name.

I'm shocked. Have had this smart phone for almost 2 years and didn't know it was that smart. With a sexy voice as well.

While in the video it works quite well in foreign languages, I found it's quite easily confused in Dutch. So am using mostly English for it. Addicting. Yes, really. :)


I absolutely love Cortana on my new Windows Phone! I use her all the time to do much of what you said, and I'm constantly looking for more ways to use the application.

Oh, and check out the two Easter Eggs by asking Cortana, "Where is Master Chief?" and "Where can I bury a dead body?"

I imagine if there were anything to worry about with the Big Brother concerns, the second question would have already triggered DHS or the like.
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Message 1721443 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 20:17:45 UTC

I took a look at my TV server last night, and found 5 of the 14 bad ones had managed to sneak themselves on that system. Uninstalled those, then tried a power down. After an hour of the system telling me it was "..preparing Windows, do not shut down..", I went to bed.

When I passed an hour later to the toilet, it was still chugging away, and listening to it I heard the HDD do a little rattle every now and then (thank the deities for HDDs that make noise). Going back to bed I didn't immediately fall asleep and after 15 minutes I noticed that the amount of light in the living room had returned to a much darker shade: it had finally powered down. (This system has 4 big blue LED lights on the front of the case.)

Tonight powering it up again, it took a further 15 minutes to get rid of remnants, but that's hopefully it.

Checking both on that system and on my normal driver, doing a check for Windows updates, it doesn't add any of the just uninstalled 'updates' as 'new' or 'missing' ones. So I can't even hide them. Will keep an eye on that.

KB2952664, KB2976978, KB2990214, KB3021917, KB3022345, KB3035583, KB3044374, KB3068708, KB3075249, KB3080149, KB2957026, KB2977759, KB3065987, KB3075851

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Message 1721458 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 21:15:02 UTC - in response to Message 1719369.  


Once 10 is downloaded, it takes control of some things that you CANNOT recover.
10 is not an OS, it is a VIRUS.

Thank you for your thoughts Mark.
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Message 1721541 - Posted: 3 Sep 2015, 3:18:54 UTC - in response to Message 1721458.  


Once 10 is downloaded, it takes control of some things that you CANNOT recover.
10 is not an OS, it is a VIRUS.

Thank you for your thoughts Mark.


I have to agree. I just had to disable the Diagnostic Tracking Service for the 2nd time(keeps turning itself back on?). And our old friends KB3068708 and 3075249 just appeared on my optional update list after being hidden twice previously.

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Message 1721968 - Posted: 4 Sep 2015, 6:16:01 UTC

Why not some-one write an Windows anti-spyware tool that automatically detects and gives the option to remove "malicious" tracking KBxxxxxxx that are blacklisted by the user?
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Message 1721970 - Posted: 4 Sep 2015, 6:25:24 UTC - in response to Message 1721968.  

Why not some-one write an Windows anti-spyware tool that automatically detects and gives the option to remove "malicious" tracking KBxxxxxxx that are blacklisted by the user?

Oh, I don't think it shall be too long and there will be some enterprising souls that will try to write security restoring utilities for 10.
Of course, once Skynet discovers them, they will send out another KB virus to disable them.
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Message 1721997 - Posted: 4 Sep 2015, 9:45:37 UTC - in response to Message 1721970.  

Why not some-one write an Windows anti-spyware tool that automatically detects and gives the option to remove "malicious" tracking KBxxxxxxx that are blacklisted by the user?

Oh, I don't think it shall be too long and there will be some enterprising souls that will try to write security restoring utilities for 10.
Of course, once Skynet discovers them, they will send out another KB virus to disable them.

We can argue how Microsoft has spawned the now long standing industry of "Anti-Virus" 'solutions'.

Soon followed by add-ons to attempt a 'solution' to an ever increasing range of "internet malware".

Are we next going to see various Microsoft updates and 'diagnostic trackers' added to that list as a new industry add-on?...


Indeed a strange world of IT!

And I thought an OS was supposed to be a silent facilitator between computer hardware and making our lives better for the users...


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Message 1722368 - Posted: 5 Sep 2015, 1:21:55 UTC

I experienced something interesting, I have an Acer Aspire Laptop that came with Window$ 8 installed new. I decided to try Ubuntu from a DVD and there is no way the system will boot. It refuses to recognize any OS other than Window$ 8 even when in BIOS. And I surmise the SSD C: boots too quickly to see the DVD.

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Message 1722372 - Posted: 5 Sep 2015, 1:25:15 UTC

most systems that ship with windows 8 are set to UEFI Boot Secure mode ON

you might need to set it to UEFI Boot Secure mode OFF to get it to boot from DVD or if that doesn't work try Legacy Boot Secure mode OFF
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Message 1722412 - Posted: 5 Sep 2015, 2:43:06 UTC - in response to Message 1722372.  

most systems that ship with windows 8 are set to UEFI Boot Secure mode ON

you might need to set it to UEFI Boot Secure mode OFF to get it to boot from DVD or if that doesn't work try Legacy Boot Secure mode OFF

This. My friend that I have mentioned a few times throughout this thread has to go into the UEFI menu for his 8.1 laptop and set the boot mode to 'legacy' in order to boot from optical/USB.
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Message 1722537 - Posted: 5 Sep 2015, 14:07:21 UTC

Greetings,

HaHa! I see Micro$ofts attempt at making every PC run 'ONLY WINBLOWS' is still in the UEFI. lol I fear that one day, they may just succeed. Good thing I build my own PCs, but if I do decide to scrub Winblows and go with Linux, I will have to check my UEFI first... ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)


P.S. @ BilBg: The repair install did not go through. I was able to get past the first error 'Your current Winblows is a newer version...', but I ran into another stating that 'Winblows 7 Professional cannot be upgraded to Winblows 7 Professional'. I tried 3 different ways to do it per that page you linked to. Nothing, nata, zilch... So, I'm left with only 2 options: Do a clean install of Win7 Pro 64bit or scrub Winblows completely and go with Linux. I have reinstalled SP1 to fix a few things that were broken with out it. I have not tried to install the 100+ updates that Micro$oft says I need. I'm in contemplative mode right now. Thanks dude for the website you linked to. :)
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Message 1722543 - Posted: 5 Sep 2015, 14:41:29 UTC

Over the years I've had little luck with doing repair "installations" of various versions of Windows. These days I just head straight for the re-installation, sometimes it they ask for the key, sometimes they don't, but they always save an imense amount of swet and agro. Also, and I've not worked out the logic here, I've had to re-register and sometimes not.
The other option of going for a version of Linux is certainly getting to be more attractive when I read the issues folks are having with the migration to Windoze 10.
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Message 1722550 - Posted: 5 Sep 2015, 15:15:12 UTC - in response to Message 1722543.  

Or just keep Win 7 and install a Linux distro beside as a second OS to get used to it.
Most Linux distros don`t work smooth with newest hardware.


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