... if MS actually listened to real, actual users of their own products, practically nobody would have anything to complain about.

Seriously?
How many years have you been using these message boards? The internet in general?
The more people there are, the more different and opposing opinions there are.
If MS do something, people complain about it. If they reverse that decision, people complain about it. If they do something slightly differently, people complain about it. If they revert back the way it was, people complain about it.

In short- people complain, no matter what.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Alternative to skynet does anybody remember Collussus The Forbin project.

Yes!! A great forebear of Skynet. Saw that film along with The Andromeda Strain as a double feature.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

Got two more updates requiring reboots this morning. After playing with AMD Catalyst on a HP PC which started with Windows 8, updated to 8.1, updated to Windows 10, I had to reset the PC with the Repair DVD I had downloaded after the first two updates. I lost all HP applications which I had used, such as Quick Start, but I reinstalled BOINC 7.6.6 and Virtual Box 4.3.30 which is needed by CERN projects. It runs now as a naked Home Edition but it runs.
Tullio

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To me, looks like Microsoft is very determined to have everything about you pawned for their profit and your loss.

Incredible.


IT is only what we allow it to be...
Martin

The same as Google, Amazon, and Apple.

Each tech pro is well aware not to use google if he is concerned about privacy.
My smart phone is rooted and google totally deleted.
I only install apps as apk`s and i`m online only to check mails and messages.
Approx 10 minutes a day.

I`m using startpage as search engine and have encrypted internet connection.
Also those servers win wants to contact are blocked by my firewall.
Its still not perfect but much better than most.

I totally agree with Martin.
Its just what we allow it to be.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

Now, that's what I call a cutting comment.....and a rather good one at that. I've ordered 2 X Win 7 Pro 64 bit packages for my new builds after 'confirming' that Win 10 is not for me.

Could you pm me where and the prices. I need a couple for me.

Amazon...

Or Ebay.

Ebay seems to have some better bargains at the moment.

The well has not run dry just yet, Chris.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Greetings Clyde,

I only had the first update installed and have uninstalled it. I checked my list 4 times to make sure.

WinAero states on that page that Micro$oft is circumventing the HOSTS file by having the server domains hard coded in the update file(s). What I did was added the domains to my router so they are blocked from any access.

It is looking more and more like Micro$soft is unintentionally alienating users from using their software and Operating System. Too bad that the majority of Windows users don't have a clue as to what Micro$oft is doing.

My PC is MY PC, not Micro$oft's PC. I will do with it as I damned well please and will run whatever legal software I damned well want to run on it and they ain't got nothin' to say about it. ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

t is looking more and more like Micro$soft is unintentionally alienating users from using their software and Operating System. Too bad that the majority of Windows users don't have a clue as to what Micro$oft is doing.

I'm assuming you meant intentionally? Surely they can't be too stupid to realize alienation would occur in the present climate worldwide regarding spying and data collection. I for one have warned every person on my contact list that I know run Windows and have helped several of them remove these invasive updates from their systems.

Those of us with a more or less greater understanding of what is going on need to be the 'voice in the wilderness' broadcasting this crime to all the less savvy and unsuspecting and that goes for trying to get this knowledge widely known and even exposed in the National media.

Of course M$NBC won't be getting on the Bandwagon.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

My PC is MY PC, not Micro$oft's PC. I will do with it as I damned well please and will run whatever legal software I damned well want to run on it and they ain't got nothin' to say about it. ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

I have some pretty strong feelings about this as well.
I have hand assembled each and every rig I run on Seti from scratch.
The OS is necessary to run them, and I am not sure I have the moxy anymore to learn linux, as pissed off as I may be at the arrogance of MS these days.

But, when I purchase Windows, I expect it then to be my property to use as I see fit. I did not purchase it to give MS the right to commandeer my property for their own nefarious intentions. Yes, I know the EULA says otherwise.

I have XP Pro on 8 crunchers. Couple 64bit, the others 32. They shall remain as such until something happens that it is no longer viable. God willing, that shall not happen until I am ready for the trash bin myself...LOL.

My daily driver is now on 7 Pro 64...I did that begrudgingly when XP no longer had support for some things required to do my daily driving.
But, I have come to like 7. It is stable as hell. No complaints there.

Updates are disabled on all XP rigs. It works well, so keep your damned hands offa my hardware....LOL.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

After uninstalling the "convert win7/8 to nsa edition" (message 1719579)
updates, the Diagnostic tracking service was running like crazy
Please deactivate "Diagnostic Tracking Service" in your windows services.

If you don't care, leave it alone.

My PC is MY PC,

Nope, not with Win10... It's just "This PC" now :/

My PC is MY PC,

Nope, not with Win10... It's just "This PC" now :/

Unless you use W10privacy.
Its in german only for now but it disables everything.
Also the servers win wants to comunicate with. :)

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

t is looking more and more like Micro$soft is unintentionally alienating users from using their software and Operating System. Too bad that the majority of Windows users don't have a clue as to what Micro$oft is doing.

I'm assuming you meant intentionally? Surely they can't be too stupid to realize alienation would occur in the present climate worldwide regarding spying and data collection.
-[ snip ]-

Greetings DG,

No, I actually meant unintentionally. As arrogant as Micro$oft may be, I cannot see them intentionally alienating users from Windows.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Greetings,

Not to add to the 'conspiracy theory' flavor of this thread, but: ;)

I was thinking just a bit ago: Would Micro$oft stoop so low as to start pushing out updates with bogus descriptions yet the updates do the exact thing we are trying to prevent from happening, this because there are ways being publicly displayed on how to circumvent the 'SkyNet-ness' of Windows 10 and now being attempted with Win7 and 8.1?

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I was thinking just a bit ago: Would Micro$oft stoop so low as to start pushing out updates with bogus descriptions yet the updates do the exact thing we are trying to prevent from happening, this because there are ways being publicly displayed on how to circumvent the 'SkyNet-ness' of Windows 10 and now being attempted with Win7 and 8.1?

Without doubt, why would they start being honest or ethical with their users now? Hopefully there are some rogue MCSE techs that will look at the code on updates and keep us informed.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

http://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-hits-home-run-announces-75-million-installs-for-windows-10

Of course, they don't say how many people have since uninstalled it again.

Microsoft itself is projecting that there will be 1 billion devices running Windows 10 within two to three years.
That's scary.

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After uninstalling the "convert win7/8 to nsa edition" (message 1719579)
updates, the Diagnostic tracking service was running like crazy
Please deactivate "Diagnostic Tracking Service" in your windows services.

+100

Wow. No kidding. I noticed that one of those updates had snuck through my careful research, so I removed it yesterday. Saw this post, went to services and told it to stop running and it has been "stopping service..." for 15 minutes now and it is still running. Task manager shows that particular svchost.exe process has been using a full CPU core for the past 23 hours (since I uninstalled that one update). Uuuggggghhhh. Stop trying to commandeer MY machine, MS!

edit: that did the trick. Administrative command prompt:

taskkill /pid 1792 /F

(verify with task manager what the PID is for your particular case: services tab, look for DiagTrack and get the PID for it from there, if it refuses to stop on its own).

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Linux laptop:
record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)

I suspect most of us here are dying breed.

This worries me a lot more than anything MS might do

Facebook has a billion users in one day

I suspect most of them posted pictures, told people where they were or where they were going, what time they would be home and when they will be on holiday and posted pictures of their pets and or kids.

So many Facebook users have little or nothing hidden. Peoples lives are there to see. If you doubt me how do you think I tracked down the Kenzie impersonator, via an open Facebook account where all the pictures were on show.

How many of those billion who use Win 10 will even care what MS does.

It is a new world where privacy is fast becoming a thing of the past.

Of course we don't like it, but I am not sure there is much we can do to stop it.

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The updates in question are KB3068708, KB3022345, KB3075249, and KB3080149, and you can find their full description in the box after the jump.

I found only one of these on my machine. I uninstalled and hid it. I guess I'll have to keep an eye out for the others.

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The Universe is not only stranger than you imagine, it's stranger than you can imagine.

SETI@home classic workunits 1,405 CPU time 57,318 hours

Greetings,

I am getting real tired of seeing this when I go to check for updates:



All I want to to check for updates and see if any are legit, that's it! :| Is there any way to truly getting rid of Win10?

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

All I want to to check for updates and see if any are legit, that's it! :| Is there any way to truly getting rid of Win10?

Found it last night in Installed Updates(I believe, should have written it down). Just uninstall and hide. Worked for me.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>