This is the link for the Microsoft tool.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930

And you can go to the Control Panel/System/Advanced Settings/Hardware, and choose not to install drivers.

I am not sure if it works yet, but it is what Microsoft recommends.

Steve

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This is the link for the Microsoft tool.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930

And you can go to the Control Panel/System/Advanced Settings/Hardware, and choose not to install drivers.

I am not sure if it works yet, but it is what Microsoft recommends.

Steve

That did not work in the last Preview version, but who knows. Maybe they actually fixed it.

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AS for accessing your data if they have reason to believe you are using the computer to carry out illegal activities how is that a bad thing?

OMG, it was answered already, do we really need to reiterate? If OS opens way to get inside - not only M$ can get in. That is, even if M$ could search only illegal apps (and this is bad thing, it's illegal by itself), 3rd paty can use same mechanism to search or disable something else. For very simple example - to make your OS think that installed AV is counterfeit one and to disable it (!). Nice attack vector new OS provides!
You trust in M$ not to use data in harmful way - your own right. But don't ask others to trust too. It should be not question of trust or M$ good will. IT should be formulated adequately in EULA. Currently it formulated that way that M$ legally can use your data in harmful way, accordingly EULA. And that's completely unacceptable.

Can anyone using win 10 confirm this?
Is there such a setting in win 10?

Windows 10 uses your internet connection to share updates with others across the internet.

It sounds to me, that win10 is ONE giant computer consisting of all internet connected computers running win 10.

What is next?

What is next?

SKYNET!!!

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LoL. Next will be 2 Cortanas on couple's PCs will give advices to each based on couple's relation facebook status :P (ideal relations for XX Generation :P )

It sounds to me, that win10 is ONE giant computer consisting of all internet connected computers running win 10.

What is next?

SKYNET........http://www.wired.com/2011/04/skynet-becomes-self-aware/

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My own M$ progression:
Dos 6.0
Win 3.1.1
Win 95
Win 98
Win 7

I say NO to Win 10

my progression
MSDos 6.22
Win 3.1
win 95
win 98SE
NT 4.0
win 2000
win XP
Vista Beta
win 7
and I have one computer on Vista

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how about a friendly skynet

My own M$ progression:
Dos 6.0
Win 3.1.1
Win 95
Win 98
Win 7

I say NO to Win 10

my progression
MSDos 6.22
Win 3.1
win 95
win 98SE
NT 4.0
win 2000
win XP
Vista Beta
win 7
and I have one computer on Vista

I had lees trouble with Vista as with Win 7.

Sadly it had no AVX support.

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Can anyone using win 10 confirm this?
Is there such a setting in win 10?

Windows 10 uses your internet connection to share updates with others across the internet.

Yes there is and all you do is switch it off. Easy.

The way I see it is MS can no longer make money from an OS.

Many younger people do not even own a PC, they do all they want on phones and tablets, mostly NOT running windows.

So Windows 7 is the last traditional OS from MS, you can keep using it as long as you like, support will finish in 2020, but there are many still using XP. If you don't fancy that then you have 5 years to find an operating system you like. I can recommend Linux Mint, I would have used it but it didn't support the games I play.

I strongly believe the day of the desktop PC is on the way out.

Of course I would be interested to know if all of these "features" will apply to the corporate version of Win 10.

Even when I was still working in 2012 my company was looking to replace all the field techs laptops with iPads and all that stopped them was the fact Office didn't run on an iPad. Of course it now does. There was even an app that allowed me to use my iPad to connect to the company VPN.

Interesting times :-)

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how about a friendly skynet

friendly to whom?
Can one really say that present humanity is friendly to itself? To whom AI should be friendly then? To which part?

in the movies skynet is portrayed to be a bad thing

i was just imagining a good skynet

in the movies skynet is portrayed to be a bad thing

i was just imagining a good skynet

Good in that helped one part to exterminate another one? Military on its way to such goodness with billions $ investitions.

It sounds to me, that win10 is ONE giant computer consisting of all internet connected computers running win 10.

What is next?

I fully expect it to degrade to a point similar to the situation at the IRS where political/Other 'enemies' are given 'special' treatment. It will be a while before it reaches that level though. First they will concentrate on matters affecting their bottom line, such as counterfeit games and 'unapproved' hardware. Has anyone assessed what happened yesterday when it was discovered MS decided to make a EULA change three weeks after launch? They had Months, or longer, before the launch to make that EULA change, why wait until they did?

It's pretty obvious to anyone following the game. After the launch many people, unaware MS was scanning their Computers, were caught with 'Unapproved' Games/Software and hardware. Yes, those are the people that don't read/understand EULA agreements. MS was amazed at the volume of 'contraband' they were finding while scanning those clueless people's machines. So MS suddenly, three weeks after launch, decided to change their EULA so they could better deal with what they were finding. It's Not Rocket Science.

It will take a while, but eventually MS will get around to reading All your Formally Personal Files, labeling you, and deciding how to deal with you, similar to the way the IRS did. I thought people were Nuts saying the PC was dead or dying. I was just reading it wrong, what they meant was the Personal Computer is Dying now you just have a Computer and there is Nothing Personal about it, if you use MS. My Bad, I understand now.

Yes there is and all you do is switch it off. Easy.

You cannot opt out of something, if you do not know, that it is there.

All these settings should be switched OFF by default.

Then, you would see what settings exist to decide, if you want them or not.

How many other settings are there?

this would be an oversimplification but if all the bad stuff were taken out, wouldn't all that was left be good

My friend said that the distributed update thing is in fact there, and you can turn it off completely, or limit it to the local LAN (which makes sense if you have multiple computers and data caps). The down-side to having data caps is that if you use a wired ethernet connection to your modem/router, you can't tell 10 that it is a metered connection. That option only applies to wireless connections, which I think is just absurd.

Okay, so some people tether their cell phone to their computer, which would make a wireless connection and it makes sense to be able to say that it is metered because you only get so much data transfer on the cellular network, but there are a few very common configurations that I think a lot of people have, but this option doesn't work: Satellite internet connected to a router and you plug your computers in with cords. Satellite internet is expensive for large amounts of data transfer, but according to MS, because you are plugged-in, it is unlimited. Same applies to those of us on Comcast here in the US. We are limited to 300gb/mo. Okay, so that's actually a lot of data, but streaming TV and movies (especially in HD) uses a bit more than you think it would, and most people still plug their computers into the router for better throughput and lower latency (important for HD streaming, or playing games online), and you can't specify that is metered.

News flash, MS: not everyone is hooked-up to an unmetered corporate OC-192 connection like you are... Some (most) of us have limits to how much data we can transfer.

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AS for accessing your data if they have reason to believe you are using the computer to carry out illegal activities how is that a bad thing?

OMG, it was answered already, do we really need to reiterate? If OS opens way to get inside - not only M$ can get in. That is, even if M$ could search only illegal apps (and this is bad thing, it's illegal by itself), 3rd paty can use same mechanism to search or disable something else. For very simple example - to make your OS think that installed AV is counterfeit one and to disable it (!). Nice attack vector new OS provides!
You trust in M$ not to use data in harmful way - your own right. But don't ask others to trust too. It should be not question of trust or M$ good will. IT should be formulated adequately in EULA. Currently it formulated that way that M$ legally can use your data in harmful way, accordingly EULA. And that's completely unacceptable.

Raistmer - I'm not asking anyone else to like what Microsoft has implemented, and there are parts I don't like and think should be changed - what part of that are people not getting or are you just reading the parts of my posts you want to?

Whether the EULA is acceptable or not until it gets changed, either by Microsoft, law or everyone just walking away from Microsoft, that's what we're stuck with like it or not