My take on this this is, if you bought a PC with Win8 or 8.1 preinstalled then upgrading to Win10 will be doing you a big favour.

If you run Vista or Win7 then hold off as long as you can.

Also if you have older hardware connected to your PC then check with the manufacturers of that hardware 1st to make sure that it's compatible with Win10 before upgrading.

Cheers.

perhaps finding a copy of OS/2 1.2.

I have OS/2 v 1.3, Standard Edition; yours for the postage.

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Earlier in the thread, I wrote:

3035583 is the critical one that gives the icon notification, but the one I bolded, 2952664, is known as 'nagware' and has a long history of issues, primarily failing to install properly and after two restarts, nags you again to install it..and it fails again, etc.

Personally, I have hidden that particular update six times now, but it keeps coming back as an available update, because MS keeps "fixing" it, which changes the unique hash identifier for it, even though the KB number is still the same, so it comes back as a "new" available update. Here's the explanation from InfoWorld about that one.

Make that seven times now. It has shown up again. As well as KB3075851. MS says "This update resolves several issues in Windows." That's the extent of the explanation of what the update is/does. But a google search revealed.. it is an update to the Windows Update Client to improve the transition for upgrading to 10. Nope. Hide update.

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Earlier in the thread, I wrote:

3035583 is the critical one that gives the icon notification, but the one I bolded, 2952664, is known as 'nagware' and has a long history of issues, primarily failing to install properly and after two restarts, nags you again to install it..and it fails again, etc.

Personally, I have hidden that particular update six times now, but it keeps coming back as an available update, because MS keeps "fixing" it, which changes the unique hash identifier for it, even though the KB number is still the same, so it comes back as a "new" available update. Here's the explanation from InfoWorld about that one.

Make that seven times now. It has shown up again. As well as KB3075851. MS says "This update resolves several issues in Windows." That's the extent of the explanation of what the update is/does. But a google search revealed.. it is an update to the Windows Update Client to improve the transition for upgrading to 10. Nope. Hide update.

You're hiding this update because you don't want install windows 10? Just trying to understand why you are hiding it

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I installed recently (after 29 july) Win10TP x64 from same ISO I used on my PC to friend's one.
It installed, now catches up with updates. But it characterised itself as "not activated". With mention that embedded key it used for installation can't be activated.
Anyone encountered the same? Is it because of ISO installed on 2 PCs or because installation was made after 29 July? That is, if aquisition of another "insider" key will help?

I installed recently (after 29 july) Win10TP x64 from same ISO I used on my PC to friend's one.
It installed, now catches up with updates. But it characterised itself as "not activated". With mention that embedded key it used for installation can't be activated.
Anyone encountered the same? Is it because of ISO installed on 2 PCs or because installation was made after 29 July? That is, if aquisition of another "insider" key will help?

All of the licence keys on the technical previews are no longer valid. To my knowledge the only way to get Windows 10 is to upgrade from either Windows 7 or 8/8.1

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...or pay for a full, squeaky clean copy....


I dare say M$ will roll out paid upgrades from other "non-listed", "obsolete", versions of Windows if the end-user pressure is high enough

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This thread has convinced me I should try to find a HP OEM key for Win 7 Pro 'cause,
I won't be going to Windows NSA Edition anytime soon...

lol

try on a job...I lifted all Win7 PRO keys from a work on a machines, 'cause we use Win7 Enterprise...so OS was reinstalled & all keys r valid!
;)

Amazing what ha heatgun can do to a Key label eh? lol

NOPE, that would be STEALING!

I just took photo of them...& entered them @ home in Win7 machines... ;)

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... Make that seven times now. It has shown up again. As well as KB3075851. MS says "This update resolves several issues in Windows." That's the extent of the explanation of what the update is/does. But a google search revealed.. it is an update to the Windows Update Client to improve the transition for upgrading to 10. Nope. Hide update.

You're hiding this update because you don't want install windows 10? Just trying to understand why you are hiding it

That is part of the story.


More curiously (and suspiciously) is why there seems to be some very obscure obfuscation for what that update is...

For your Windows, are you to be pushed to Win10 regardless of what you might wish to do for yourself?...

(Or is Windows and your cyberworld not actually 'yours'?...)


IT is what we allow it to be...
Martin

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Why are these updates declared "important updates" ?
They should be optional.
At least, there should be a tick box like "are you planing to install win10?"

Now i have to go through every update, to see, if the want to sneek win10 into my computer, again.

Here's a bit of an oops... And so soon after a big (1 GByte?) Win10 update:


Update Windows, Office, IE, Edge and Adobe Flash (– plus OpenSSH)

Patch Tuesday Microsoft has released 14 sets of software patches to address critical security vulnerabilities in Windows, Office, Internet Explorer, and Edge. Yes, even Edge: Microsoft's supposedly whizzbang super-secure web browser.

Users and sysadmins should apply August's Patch Tuesday fixes as soon as possible: the bugs can be exploited to remotely execute code on vulnerable systems, allowing miscreants to hijack computers and install malware by tricking people into opening documents and webpages.

Plugging a malicious USB device into a Windows PC can grant an attacker administrator privileges, allowing them to commandeer the computer. Microsoft said it had "reason to believe" that this USB vulnerability "has been used...


And then watch out for:

FAIL: Windows 10 bulk patch produces INFINITE CRASH LOOP

Microsoft’s first update to Windows 10 is bricking some users’ PCs...



And for a giggle, note from one of the comments to that lot:

I like the way they separated the Edge bugs from the IE bugs. Same CVEs though. Whatever could that mean?


Suggesting that there's common code in all that lot...



All rather tiresome. Will "IT" ever get tidied up?!

IT is what we allow it to be...
Martin

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of course edge is just a rethemed and rebadged version if IE as win 10 is just a rethemed version of 7/8 ...it s all bull that M$ redesigned it from scratch

Some of the annoyances of 7/8 that where broke also made it into win 10 which should not have happened if it was redesigned

they did make a completely new version of maleware build into the os though

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I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

As well as KB3075851. MS says "This update resolves several issues in Windows." That's the extent of the explanation of what the update is/does.

MS KB says This article describes an update that contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1. This update also resolves an issue in which certain Windows Update operations fail when you install Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: July 2015 (3065987) on Windows 7 Embedded editions.

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I suspended all BOINC projects before authorizing the update and resumed them after the update. I had to manually start the CERN Summer Challenge which is not a BOINC project and uses VBox, and it restarted OK. This after refusing a tomorrow night install when I am asleep and cannot suspend anything on my 24/7 Windows PC.
Tullio

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You're hiding this update because you don't want install windows 10? Just trying to understand why you are hiding it

Correct. I don't want to upgrade. And when I do upgrade, it will be a clean install anyway. Therefore.. I don't need nagware and back-end data-mining stuff to help ease the transition.. because when I decide to move up to 10.. I'll burn the ISO and clean install.

As well as KB3075851. MS says "This update resolves several issues in Windows." That's the extent of the explanation of what the update is/does.

MS KB says This article describes an update that contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1. This update also resolves an issue in which certain Windows Update operations fail when you install Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: July 2015 (3065987) on Windows 7 Embedded editions.

True, the MS website does actually give slightly more info than the WU client within Windows itself.. which only ever says "this update resolves several issues.." and nothing more. The bit of google searching I did found a SevenForums thread and Dell Community thread that both point at that one being for part of the 10 upgrade path.

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But if one has no intention of upgrading to Win 10, is there any harm in downloading all these "Win 10 ready" KB updates? Will it actually harm a Win 7 installation?

It will harm your nerves when win 7 keeps nagging you to upgrade to win 10 NSA edition

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I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

Hello Raistmer if this was an upgrade from 7 or 8 you could try to rollback to whichever one you had then go here microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 it will allow you to burn a bootable dvd or usb drive to do the install with the active key you have with your 7 or 8. Hope this helps out. My bad was not paying attention the link is http://microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

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But if one has no intention of upgrading to Win 10, is there any harm in downloading all these "Win 10 ready" KB updates? Will it actually harm a Win 7 installation?

It will harm your nerves when win 7 keeps nagging you to upgrade to win 10 NSA edition

Technically, there is no harm. I just don't want to be nagged and pestered, and you can't just tell the icon to go away.

Plus, some of the other upgrade-oriented updates add telemetry and so forth to your 7/8 install, supposedly to "help ease the transition" for when you do finally upgrade. I would assume probably so that when you do finally upgrade, all of your habits are already in the cloud so that all the ads and suggestions and recommendations are already targeted to what they think you want, rather than the bit of learning curve all of that would have to do at the start of a clean install.

Furthermore.. I'm not planning on doing an upgrade.. I'm going to do a clean install. Therefore, I don't need all these updates and data-mining and forensic keylogging crap running in the background to help ease the upgrade process.. when I'm not actually going to upgrade.

tl;dr.. I don't need those updates, therefore.. I don't let them install.

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AFAIK you only have to remove and hide the KB3035583 update (searching finds no other related update for this) which kicks in the GWX.exe.

This update should not be present if you only select to get critical updates and no optional updates (plain auto updates will give you everything M$ wants to give you).

Here is how to get rid of the thing if it bugs you, http://www.howtogeek.com/218856/how-do-you-disable-the-get-windows-10-icon-shown-in-the-notification-tray/.

Cheers.

I installed recently (after 29 july) Win10TP x64 from same ISO I used on my PC to friend's one.
It installed, now catches up with updates. But it characterised itself as "not activated". With mention that embedded key it used for installation can't be activated.
Anyone encountered the same? Is it because of ISO installed on 2 PCs or because installation was made after 29 July? That is, if aquisition of another "insider" key will help?

All of the licence keys on the technical previews are no longer valid. To my knowledge the only way to get Windows 10 is to upgrade from either Windows 7 or 8/8.1

Where you got this info ?
My own installation of Win10 TP is still valid and activated. Moreover, currently I creating Win10 32/64 Pro Insider USB flash with freshly downloaded M$ authoring tool. All this available through Windows Insider program. What your sources of info??