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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
I've learned that if you type Win U in the search bar at lower left you can go from automatic installing updates (bad) to Notify me there is an update. Greetings Tulio, The only option I am finding is that I can schedule a restart instead of doing an auto-restart. I went from Win7 Pro 64bit to Win10 Pro 64bit. I was also under the impression we had more control over updates than we do. It seems Micro$oft is dead set against relinquishing control of our PCs to us. Luckily I have most of the privacy 'options' turned off and I do not have a OneDrive account. At least I have that control of my PC. ;) Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Luckily I have most of the privacy 'options' turned off and I do not have a OneDrive account. If you have a Microsoft account (e.g. a Hotmail, Outlook or (Windows)Live login), you have a OneDrive account. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Luckily I have most of the privacy 'options' turned off and I do not have a OneDrive account. It's like Google Drive that I never use. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
The Above Boards are free to anyone that wants them. I may take you up on that. Are they 16bit ISA or 8bit? How much memory on them? If they're 8bit ISA, I may put them into an original IBM 5150 PC when I get my hands on one. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Not to talk about the automatic device encryption where the encryption key, is held hostage at the MS spyware department. This is not true. You are not required to store your encryption key in the cloud on your Microsoft account. You still have the option to store your encryption key on a USB stick as you've always been able to do. |
qbit Send message Joined: 19 Sep 04 Posts: 630 Credit: 6,868,528 RAC: 0 |
Luckily I have most of the privacy 'options' turned off and I do not have a OneDrive account. I do not have an MS account (never needed it) but as a android user I do of course have a google account. Google Drive is nice to quickly move files between mobile devices and computers. I don't use it often and ofc I don't store any sensitive data there, but it can be useful. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Luckily I have most of the privacy 'options' turned off and I do not have a OneDrive account. Greetings Jord, I have none of that so I have no OneDrive account. :P Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Not to talk about the automatic device encryption where the encryption key, is held hostage at the MS spyware department. Well yes, the default is to save to your Microsoft account.. but you speak it as if users are unable to learn any other way. I agree that most probably won't, but the option is there and any tech friend can show them. My point is, there are options. |
qbit Send message Joined: 19 Sep 04 Posts: 630 Credit: 6,868,528 RAC: 0 |
Maybe this has already been posted here, but better twice then never. HOW TO DISABLE AUTOMATIC UPDATES ON W10 HOME: Start Editor Copy & paste the following in a new document: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU] "NoAutoUpdate"=dword:00000000 "AUOptions"=dword:00000002 "ScheduledInstallDay"=dword:00000000 "ScheduledInstallTime"=dword:00000003 Save the text document. Right click on the saved file and rename it to Update.reg Doubleclick this file From now on you should get notified when new updates are available. Source: http://www.deskmodder.de/wiki/index.php?title=Automatische_Updates_deaktivieren_oder_auf_manuell_setzen_Windows_10 (german) Disclaimer: I didn't upgrade to W10 yet and haven't tried this hack myself. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66307 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
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HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Not to talk about the automatic device encryption where the encryption key, is held hostage at the MS spyware department. Well it probably doesn't count spyware when they are saying "we are going to collect everything about you" in the license agreement that the user accepts. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
The Above Boards are free to anyone that wants them. Wouldn't it depend on which version he has? The Intel Above Board AT was an 8bit version of the card, as was the Intel Above Board PS/AT. I think the Above Board 286 was a unified 16bit card that would work in 8bit bus slots. |
OTS Send message Joined: 6 Jan 08 Posts: 371 Credit: 20,533,537 RAC: 0 |
Not to talk about the automatic device encryption where the encryption key, is held hostage at the MS spyware department. "If you want to delete your keys from OneDrive you can do that...." But are they stored somewhere else as well when first saved to OneDrive, and you only delete your copy? Even if they say they delete all copies, you cannot be sure that is happening. It does make you wonder about all the possible motives for saving your keys to OneDrive by default. I am sure one reason is to protect the user from his own carelessness, but are there others? The most secure keys are the ones that have never left your possession. Of course we are assuming that BitLocker is secure and has no backdoor, but that is another subject that there are no real answers for :) . |
Jamie Send message Joined: 5 Apr 06 Posts: 162 Credit: 9,867,955 RAC: 0 |
Um how? Its in the EULA exactly what they will do with your data if you choose the express settings and they give you the option to turn on more privacy controls to stop it. If users don't read the EULA then it's really the users fault and not Microsoft's, and yes the old argument that users don't ever read EULA's is true but again not something that Microsoft can control It may not be morally correct in what they are doing, but the law doesn't cover morality And to be fair, if you have an e-mail account, mobile phone, credit\debit card or even a shops loyalty card then other less trustworthy businesses already have your data, and the majority will be 3rd party providers to the people you signed up with, as these are the companies that do the data processing on behalf of big businesses
And how is the new? It was always Microsoft's intention with Windows 10 to make it a SAAS product, you pay for the majority of SAAS products, even if there is a "free" period attached to it And as someone that develops accounting software, deferring income and then recognizing it at a later date is standard practice in almost all businesses, especially when you want to get users bought into a product. In this case all they have done is to defer the income over 2-4 years which they are calling the "life of the device", not sure where the story is to be honest Personally I think Win 10 is a great improvement over Win 7 and 8\8.1, now I've got it setup how I want it, with the privacy controls the way I like it its been installed on all 3 of my PC's |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 |
The whole privacy issue has been getting worse and worse. They gradually ramped it up, so nobody would notice. If people think, it is not important, then they should post all their credit-card details, social security number, date of birth etc. online and wait, until someone takes over their bank accounts, orders things with their credit card or tells your new employer, that you buy too much alcohol or visit porn shops or whatever may not be helpful for a good impression on a new employer. We may not be there, right now, but we will, if people are too relaxed with their private details. "1984" bad enough, but we do not have to volunteer for that. |
OTS Send message Joined: 6 Jan 08 Posts: 371 Credit: 20,533,537 RAC: 0 |
And when you do pay for it, all the information that Windows 10 has collected over the "service lifetime" and tied to an anonymous ID, if you used one, suddenly becomes tied to you. No thank you. |
OTS Send message Joined: 6 Jan 08 Posts: 371 Credit: 20,533,537 RAC: 0 |
The whole privacy issue has been getting worse and worse. +1 Complacency and it is "no big deal" by the majority is not a good thing to an individual's right to privacy in the long run. |
Jamie Send message Joined: 5 Apr 06 Posts: 162 Credit: 9,867,955 RAC: 0 |
not arguing that it's a good thing, or a moral thing for a company to do, or that the right to privacy isn't important Just pointing out that Microsoft are not some kind of evil corporation breaking privacy laws just for the sake of it, cackling as they imagine the money that's going to be rolling in the next time that 80 year old Doris logs into her PC Maybe a bit more of a balanced, reasoned link than some of he others that have been posted here: http://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2015/08/windows-10s-privacy-policy-is-the-new-normal |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 |
There are certainly some advantages for collecting data to improve certain things. It is not the individual bit of information but the accumulation of all these little bits of information, that is causing the problem. Once they are out there, you have absolutely no control, who or what is collecting them and putting them together for whatever purpose. It is like telling 12 different people one digit of your credit card number.Each single one cannot do anything with that, but put together??? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Nice link, thanks. It does highlight what I've already said. Windows 8/8.1/10 should have been split as previously: - Windows Desktop & Windows Mobile. Who the hell wants apps on their desktop? |
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