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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I've used IE since v6 & until that MS update crap earlier this year, had no issues with IE. Only reason why I use Firefox is because some sites, even though I can view the sites, will not log me in. Other than that, no issues. Like everything, it's all down to choice. |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
Just uninstall, and hide the following updates, and you'll never be bothered again (until they push another upgrade update on you): 3035583 is the critical one that gives the icon notification, but the one I bolded, 2952664, is known as 'nagware' and has a long history of issues, primarily failing to install properly and after two restarts, nags you again to install it..and it fails again, etc. Personally, I have hidden that particular update six times now, but it keeps coming back as an available update, because MS keeps "fixing" it, which changes the unique hash identifier for it, even though the KB number is still the same, so it comes back as a "new" available update. Here's the explanation from InfoWorld about that one. I have both of my win7 machines set to "check for updates, let me choose what to download and install." I also use WSUS and try to decline the updates related to the 10 upgrade, but sometimes, there are just so many updates that I miss a few, so I have a second fail-safe on the individual machines, and when I see a list of what updates are available, I google all the KB numbers, looking to see what they actually do. MS just says stuff like "fixes a number of small issues for better reliability" and that's the extent of their information about what an update does, but then it turns out that it does almost nothing of the sort and instead, runs basically a keylogger and data-mining to report back to HQ how you use your computer, and there's no way to turn that off, other than to never install it in the first place. That's the other reason I always wait a week or so to install updates: to give it time for other people to find problems so that I can avoid those problems. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I like the last sentence in that report. "Many unanswered questions remain on the road to Windows 10." |
Jeff Buck Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 |
... but the one I bolded, 2952664, is known as 'nagware' and has a long history of issues, primarily failing to install properly and after two restarts, nags you again to install it..and it fails again, etc. Thanks very much for that tidbit. I just knew that update sounded familiar, yet because it showed an August 4th release date, it had me puzzled. That's why I just made a note of it, until I could get around to checking it out further. I don't think I ever understood why some vaguely familiar updates occasionally seemed to reappear. Your explanation of the "hash identifier" component has me going, "Ah, ha...so that's it!" |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
@ all was anyone still using IE? I switched to Firefox 3 years ago due to all the inter-connectivity occurring every time IE was open. Slowed everything down on my systems. Sadly, because IE was the standard for so many years and many companies wrote all sorts of intranet sites or custom ActiveX controls for IE, most companies I've worked in the role of IT Support only officially support IE but allow users to use whatever browser they choose. Personally, I mostly use IE after having spent some time using Firefox then switching to Chrome (and a very brief stint with Opera). I'm currently using Edge and so far ... it's a browser. Meh. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
I use IE at times to watch videos (from news sites mostly) that refuse to work in Pale Moon or Firefox. Apparently IE is capable of playing the most obscure video formats without extra plugins and add-ons. |
Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
O.K. I must admit I am a Win 10 convert, but WTF is up with Edge?! Is there no security?! I have a full version of Win 10 PRO with all of the updates, the latest CCC and the biggest problem I have is Edge. OMG MS! get your sh%& together! |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
O.K. I must admit I am a Win 10 convert, but WTF is up with Edge?! Is there no security?! All internet All the time. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
This thread has convinced me I should try to find a HP OEM key for Win 7 Pro 'cause, I won't be going to Windows NSA Edition anytime soon... lol |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I might also add.... Depending on how you pay for your internet bandwidth, Windows Skynet edition will also be using YOUR money to pay for their transfer of YOUR data to their servers so they can sell it to make more money for themselves....... Just sayin'... "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I am not a Windows fan, I have two Linux boxes running SuSE Linux, often updated but it asks me if I accept the updates. But, having bought a HP minitower, I found Windows 8 64-bit installed on it, soon updated to 8.1. I am running Virtual Box on it in order to run the CERN projects which need Virtual Box. Now it was updated to Windows 10 home edition, and all CERN projects restarted after some minor glitches. I am not a Facebook, Google, Twitter or Live user and my Thunderbird mailbox is on both Linux boxes, so I think I have nothing to fear. Tullio |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22508 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
I wish to publicly thank all the early adopters of Windows 10 - they are going through the pain so that the later adopters have a less rough path... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6658 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
I haven't had much time lately, so I didn't force the update. Last night it downloaded on it's own, and if I don't have to work tomorrow, I'll give it a go. I'll start with the upgrade, create an ISO, then do a clean install. If i do have to work tomorrow, it will have to wait another week. I appreciate all the information from everyone's input to this thread. I know far more about Win 10, that I have known about any new OS prior to installing it. The future never goes backwards. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
I might also add.... tullio mentioned the workaround for that previously. One neat feature of Windows 10, I think the only one I have found so far, is that it does track the internet usage of apps for you. I can see BOINC has used ~1.9GB & what's this... why had the "photos" app used 150MB? It's a work machine in my lab with no photos on it, using a local account, & I haven't touched it in a few days. So that's annoying. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I might also add.... Yes, for the informed. Just how many of the users do you think will ever know that trick? Skynet wins. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
When installing Windows 10 the system opens up a LOT of connections to other companies with ads. Your computer system will lag a lot! What I found out was that you have to change the privacy settings to off. There are many of them but when I set them to off the lags disappered. http://www.thewindowsclub.com/privacy-settings-windows-10 |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
The major issue that I'm seeing is this: - An operating system should be just that. All users should be able to make their own choice as to what programs/apps they install on their computers. What's to stop Microsoft from adding an MS update that undoes all your hard work in getting your system to the way you want it? Anyone remember the WPA farce? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Seven days after it's release they improve enhancements to the functionality? New improved enhancements |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Seven days after it's release they improve enhancements to the functionality? So, we have a "Cumulative Update for Windows 10: August 5, 2015", comprising 3915 files and 1,802,903,011 bytes. In other words, Service Pack 0.01 is out. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
My Windows 10 PC rebooted last night and I found all projects using VirtualBox powered off. I took the occasion to update my VBox from 4.3.12 to 4.3.30 and all VBox projects have restarted, save the CERN Summer Challenge which is not a BOINC project. On the Virtual Box site I learned that VBox 5.0 is not yet working on Windows 10, that is the reason I installed 4.3.30. Tullio |
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