works for me :)

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I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

Yeah I like to hedge my bets a little especially when it comes to windows.

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ME AND MY BOY LOOKING FOR ET

well i have win 10 installed on most of my crunchers but i am very displeased by all the data collecting going on with the new windows

what i really do not like is that all of that stuff has to be on to use kotana or whatever it is called and how much data collection is going on even with all that stuff turned off

i have it installed on teh cruncher since i really do not care since there is nothing to collect they all run by themselves and the data collected is so uninteresting that even microsoft and their business partners prolly won t be interested in unless they looking for ET :)

but yeah by all means give it a spin it does look nice and runs excellent so far

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I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

Hi Folks,
I upgraded my alternate Win7Ult OS on my main rig to Win10 on the 2md of this month.
Deselected all of the intrusive/privacy settings I could find, including on some EU advertising web site with a shedload of firms all wanting to do personalised ads aimed at me, they all got deselected as well.

I then installed BOINC 4.6.6 [note screen saver selected by default on normal install] Why? Does 'anyone' still use screensavers? Anyway advanced install allowed a deselect of that irritation.

Then I atattched to E@H and crunched a couple of BRP6 WU with the Win10 NV default driver to check out any driver isssues.. All went ok.
So I ran down my cache for both S@H & E@H on my Win7 main OS to be sure no one ended up with a mega wait for WU's I had on board.

Booted into Win10 and atattched to both projects under Win10 and Boinc 4.6.6 and set my cache to 0.75 and 0.75 and found I ended up with 40+ WU, seems servers assumed I work 24/7.. I don't, only about 4-6 hrs in 24 [cheap rate electricity]

So far there have been no major issues under Win10 both projects WU are completing ok, and validating.

NB:-
I run 1x S@H WU in tandem with 1x E@H WU on each GPU..

So I run a non standard setup:-) However I can see no reason why running as standard with project swaps on a preset timing wouldn't be ok as well.
Times for crunching are much the same under either OS.

I have however cancelled the upgrade on my main Win7ult OS:-) I'll use that for other routine stuff:-)

Given the privacy issues with Win10 I would advise against the upgrade 'unless' you are willing to go through its settings deselecting nearly everything.

As usual YMMV :-)

Regards,

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Cliff,
Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt!

Last night I upgraded my Lenovo laptop to Win 10 & deselected all the privacy bits. I tool a system backup before I did the upgrade so I should be able to revert if needed. I only use the laptop when on holiday & occasionally at home, not for crunching.

The upgrade went quite smoothly, if you ignore the usual oddities with the progress meters bearing little if any correlation with time elapsed. so far it seems OK. I only use firefox atm, & don't intend to try Cortana.

So far I haven't any major issues, but time will tell.

On the privacy issues, to me there doesn't seem to be major differences between the M$ notices and those from Mobile phone networks, and/or phone suppliers, especially the one with the bite taken out of it.

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Happy Crunching,

Graham

The privacy issue is what annoys me the most next to the advertising (i hate ads ) plus i am still trying to figure out how i can get rid of the bloatware it comes with

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I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

http://www.blackviper.com , and a good NAT router with no NSA backdoors :D. Can be trickier if you have a static IP

[For the ads, adblockplus on Google Chrome, with the youtube ads disabled via chrome debug prompt]

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

Myself, I'm keeping away from Windows 10 and what to me seems to be the vagueness of continuous updates for some future indeterminate set of conditions (and monthly cloudy fee?)...

Meanwhile, immediately, something of a faux start for a piece of cake?...


Windows 10 Start menu replacements shifting like hot cakes

You had one job, Microsoft. One job...



I'm not sure that even the press could make this up!

A strange start indeed...

IT is what we allow it to be,
Martin

You should also have added this little footnote

At least with XP, Vista & Win 7, IE worked out of the box...

...MS Edge?

Probably bordering on the Edge of Reality.

You should also have added this little footnote

At least with XP, Vista & Win 7, IE worked out of the box...

...MS Edge?

Probably bordering on the Edge of Reality.

What do you mean Edge doesn't work out of the box?
http://i.imgur.com/o3mvtxI.png

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You should also have added this little footnote

At least with XP, Vista & Win 7, IE worked out of the box...

...MS Edge?

Probably bordering on the Edge of Reality.

What do you mean Edge doesn't work out of the box?
http://i.imgur.com/o3mvtxI.png

Ah but 100% out of the box requires all those "privacy" matters turned on, UAC will protect you :-)

You should also have added this little footnote

At least with XP, Vista & Win 7, IE worked out of the box...

...MS Edge?

Probably bordering on the Edge of Reality.

What do you mean Edge doesn't work out of the box?
http://i.imgur.com/o3mvtxI.png

Ah but 100% out of the box requires all those "privacy" matters turned on, UAC will protect you :-)

It looks like 90% of the inbox apps stop working once you disable UAC. Our IS department configures the Windows 7 desktop machines to use with UAC disabled. Which I have been doing in our test lab before the company switched from XP to 7.
So I foresee this being a problem. Not that I know of any IT departments that plan to actually switch to Windows 10. Actually most of them will probably remove most of that crapware if they ever do. There is no reason I would ever need things like the Xbox software on my work PC.

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Microsoft is going to have their hands full. I think it's about time they released an O/S that works without having the users as a "gigantic pool" of testers!

Microsoft is going to have their hands full. I think it's about time they released an O/S that works without having the users as a "gigantic pool" of testers!

The real name of win 10 is win 10 NSA edition
I was at a local computer store today with ppl standing in line to get win 10 put back to win 7 and 8

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I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

Hi Hal,

You should also have added this little footnote

At least with XP, Vista & Win 7, IE worked out of the box...

...MS Edge?

Probably bordering on the Edge of Reality.

What do you mean Edge doesn't work out of the box?
http://i.imgur.com/o3mvtxI.png

Ah but 100% out of the box requires all those "privacy" matters turned on, UAC will protect you :-)

It looks like 90% of the inbox apps stop working once you disable UAC. Our IS department configures the Windows 7 desktop machines to use with UAC disabled. Which I have been doing in our test lab before the company switched from XP to 7.
So I foresee this being a problem. Not that I know of any IT departments that plan to actually switch to Windows 10. Actually most of them will probably remove most of that crapware if they ever do. There is no reason I would ever need things like the Xbox software on my work PC.

I'd have thought IT depts. would be dealing with the 'enterprise' edition, dunno if that has all the privacy issues or not tho..

Cheers

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Cliff,
Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt!

Having decided to forgo the many features of Win 10 due to the high cost of privacy, I canceled the download but it keeps trying to download even though I chose "Hide" in the update list.

Any suggestions?

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Having decided to forgo the many features of Win 10 due to the high cost of privacy, I canceled the download but it keeps trying to download even though I chose "Hide" in the update list.

Any suggestions?

Yes:
[img]dumbass image -[ snipped ]-[/img]

You know, I look at your posts with the hopes that you will have something, anything constructive to add to a conversation. I looked at this one and what a surprise... NOT!

The guy is having a problem and is asking for help to resolve it. He does not need your flavor of help.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Just uninstall, and hide the following updates, and you'll never be bothered again (until they push another upgrade update on you):

KB 3035583 - According to Microsoft, this update enables "additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications when new updates are available".
KB 2952664 - Labeled a compatibility upgrade for upgrading Windows 7, its purpose is to "make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows".
KB 2976978 - A compatibility update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 which "performs diagnostics on the Windows system [..] to determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed.
KB 3021917 - Does the same as KB 2976978 but on Windows 7.
KB 3044374 - This update for Windows 8.1 enables systems to upgrade from the current operating system to a later version of Windows.
KB 2990214 - Does the same as KB 3044374 but on Windows 7.
KB 3022345 - Update to enable the Diagnostics Tracking Service in Windows (Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1)

This is what someone posted here a while ago.
It worked for me.

if i don't use it i want to uninstall it which again is impossible
i don't want people i sure as hell do not want a advertising id and to top it off i want to uninstall xbox cortana news 3d builder , contact support get office and especially groove music and bing maps one note and one drive same with weather

it all takes up cpu cycles i can use for something else and not their crap that i did not ask for nor want

Unopened apps do not consume CPU cycles. If you don't want to use it, don't use it, but it won't consume RAM or CPU if unopened.

It only consumes HDD space, take part in MFT, that in turn loaded into RAM and requires CPU cycles to be processed.
Also, any indexing/AV apps that read through files will spend both RAM and CPU cycles to deal with that crap too.

And last but not least, M$ likes to load their crap as services, that is, it will take both RAM and CPU cycles even being not using or "unopened".

So, crap always stinks, even being untouched ;)

I just found out that these damn apps like news sport etc reinstall themselves o.0

Would be good to devise some table of unwanted services (most of that crap goes as additional Windows services that loaded automatically and sits in background) with short description of required registry changes to get rid of them.

Win10 from kernel side view could be good enough to use it, but M$ greed added too much else to that core that need special build to use.
For Win7 there were many custom builds with most of crap disabled and completely removed from image. But it seems if for Win7 it was just hobby to produce such image, for Win10 it will be mandatory thing to use custom build.

Having decided to forgo the many features of Win 10 due to the high cost of privacy, I canceled the download but it keeps trying to download even though I chose "Hide" in the update list.

Any suggestions?

Yes:
[img]dumbass image -[ snipped ]-[/img]

You know, I look at your posts with the hopes that you will have something, anything constructive to add to a conversation. I looked at this one and what a surprise... NOT!

The guy is having a problem and is asking for help to resolve it. He does not need your flavor of help.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

I don't know. It made me smile. Many is the time I have thought of doing the same thing to my PC. A little humor can sometimes brighten the day. I am sure there will be someone more knowledgeable than you or I to come along and post since neither of us helped him with our posts as well. :).

Edit: In continuing up the thread I see there has already been some helpful suggestions.