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zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65867 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
How is this? It's the RIF6 and is for sale on Amazon.. The cord is 3' long or 91.44cm. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
woohoo Send message Joined: 30 Oct 13 Posts: 972 Credit: 165,671,404 RAC: 5 |
Wow that's something I didn't think of and it's cheap. The powered riser that would piggyback wouldn't need to be long because the 50cm takes care of that; I would only be using the powered riser to make up for the power deficit. My EVGA 1600 T2 has a bunch of unused jacks on it and I have a good amount of extra molex cables of decent length. So right now the case I'm using is an open-air Aerocool Strike-X Air. The box was so big it looked like I was buying a lawn mower and I had a rough time getting it into my car. It takes up a lot of desk space. I'm not using the optical drive cage; I have power supply cables coming through the hole and I have a cheap hard drive on the metal plate. I took out the hard drive cage because the power supply is so deep that the cables would hit the back of the cage; I have power supply cables coming out of the hole where the hard drive cage was supposed to go. I'm not using the top fan because I want to be able to see the interior. The hoses for the 295x2 radiator aren't very long so I mounted the radiator on the back rail. The rail only has a few holes drilled in it and I'm not about to drill any more so there's nowhere to mount the Corsair H100i; it's just sitting on the desk. I supposed the easiest thing to do would be to throw a fourth gpu where the optical drive rack would have been. |
woohoo Send message Joined: 30 Oct 13 Posts: 972 Credit: 165,671,404 RAC: 5 |
That x1 riser is similar to what I already have but I'm pretty certain there would be a significant performance hit on some projects if I used that. I would rather use my existing 3M 50cm 164pin ribbon cable assembly(not powered) along with a cheap short x16 to x16 powered riser attached to it. Don't know if it would work, but it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65867 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
The RIF6 looks like it is using a USB 3.0 cable, a shorter one could be bought, if one desires that. For $3.99 or a bit higher on ebay, the RIF6 doesn't sound like a real gamble. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
woohoo Send message Joined: 30 Oct 13 Posts: 972 Credit: 165,671,404 RAC: 5 |
The length is not the issue. The problem is that what you have pictured is an x1 to x16 cable and x1 bandwidth would be a bottleneck on some projects. For the same money from the same vendor I could get an x16 to x16 powered riser. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65867 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Then there is this Here the cable is supposed to be 2' or 60cm long and is $5.49. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65867 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
The length is not the issue. The problem is that what you have pictured is an x1 to x16 cable and x1 bandwidth would be a bottleneck on some projects. For the same money from the same vendor I could get an x16 to x16 powered riser. It was only a suggestion, I just do Seti@Home. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 35200 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
The length is not the issue. The problem is that what you have pictured is an x1 to x16 cable and x1 bandwidth would be a bottleneck on some projects. For the same money from the same vendor I could get an x16 to x16 powered riser. Here at SETI@home I've found no difference between 4x, 8x or 16x (@ PCI-e 2.0, let alone 3.0 speed slots), but yes some projects do take an impact at narrower bandwidths (though they're only backup only projects to me so of no real consequence in the long run at all). ;-) Cheers. |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
if GPUs are together 1mm apart, why not go this way: water cooling! ;) also, you can cool the CPU with water... about dual-PSU...once I did run dual-PSU on old BP6, by messing with wires...old 2x300W just wasn't enough for 7xHDD, DVD-RAM, MBO with 2xCPU, max RAM, Kyro2 GPU with 2x Voodoo2, SB32, network card, USB extender, etc...and couldn't find stronger on the market! today, you have these: ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
I notice one thing in those pics which may interest Zalster ... Notice the spacer blocks between the cards ... |
woohoo Send message Joined: 30 Oct 13 Posts: 972 Credit: 165,671,404 RAC: 5 |
I would prefer the trivial cost of making a mess of my desk with usb powered risers versus the time and money required to create a custom water loop where I would need to convert five video cards to use water blocks, plus the additional pumps, fittings, reservoirs, tubing, radiators, etc. |
woohoo Send message Joined: 30 Oct 13 Posts: 972 Credit: 165,671,404 RAC: 5 |
Those spacer blocks are actually water cooling fittings |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65867 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Nice pics Klik, I have this to connect My Corsair 950w psu and My Tt 650w video card psu together. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
Nice pics Klik, I have this to connect My Corsair 950w psu and My Tt 650w video card psu together. well, that cable that I put on last pic, only "turns PSU on-off"... and you connect your 2nd PSU with your card by appropriate cables...especially if you have "modular PSU"...then you can combine! or, you can don't have the appropriate cables on the PSU, there are some cables like: non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65867 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Nice pics Klik, I have this to connect My Corsair 950w psu and My Tt 650w video card psu together. This Thermaltake W0158RU psu(see pic) only uses the green and black wires, My solution keeps from having to put the main 24pin cable onto another cable that is between the psu and the motherboard. I've had a psu fry its main cable on two pins and the cable needs repairs before the psu will be usable again, since the Enermax Revolution85+ 1050w psu is not totally modular, if the psu were totally modular I'd replace the cable, but it isn't, the lines that got damaged are the two 12v lines. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
Please don't use BBCode's [img] for to show pictures. There are also dial up (56k) users around. To load the forum/threads would last days. ;-) Not all members know that they can edit their 'com prefs' and uncheck: Show images as links. Please use the BBCode's [url] or [url=http://google.com/*]link to website[/url*], so that all can decide to look or not. Also if the 56k users load again threads (if they closed the browser), that they don't need to load again already seen pictures. [used * for to disable it] It's just a kindly note. :-) Thanks. BTW, I have just DSL2000RAM (more isn't possible here where I live) and sometimes the load of the forum/threads lasts very long. ;-) |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
Thanks for the water cooling's ... I 'forgot' it. ;-) Yes, this would also go, I'll think about if this would be possible with my motherboard and GPU cards. IIRC, it's little bit tricky, if you have 4 GPU cards. The connection from the water innertube to the GPU cards heatsink ... This 90° water point at the GPU cards heatsink touch the next GPU card (push off) - it was in past like this as I informed me. Maybe today this 90° water points are 'smaller' so that they don't touch the next GPU card? Need to inform me. ;-) Here posted KLiK pictures. On the first the cards are not very close, I guess there are at least 1 or 2 PCIe slots between them. But on the second picture it's like this that the heatsinks are directly connected with each other? If yes, this way PCIe slot side by side GPU cards connection would be possible (also with dual GPU cards? There is much heat which need to cool down) ... |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22286 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Some time back I looked at water cooling (indeed until I had a domestic burst had a pair of water cooled gtx690 running very well). One manufacturer did the bits to directly couple GPUs together and so you could get a much higher card density than normal - if the GPU was thin enough you could use every slot on a single spaced board. Sadly it didn't work with reference design GTX690s as they are just too thick to pair up into single slot spacing, but a lot of lesser GPUs had the hardware available. Sorry I can't recall who it was. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
Thanks for the water cooling's ... just don't forget to put the FAN on CASE...so you can cool of the MBO chipset, which isn't blown in case of water-cooling... ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
Already have: 2x Intel Xeon E5-2630v2 (CPU 80W TDP) 1x ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS (Motherboard) 4x AMD Radeon HD7990 (dual GPU card, out of stock) Ordered: 1x 2000 Watt Super Flower Leadex 80 Plus Platinum 8Pack Edt. PSU - SF-2000F14HP(BK) 2x Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 16GB Kit DDR3 PC3-12800 CL8 - CML16GX3M4X1600C8 (4x4GB Kit. So 16GB/CPU, 32GB/system.) 2x Intel Thermal Solution - BXTS13A (up to 140W TDP) 1x Thermaltake Core X9 - CA-1D8-00F1WN-00 (PC Case) 1x Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit German OEM - FQC-06942 (OS) Update #03: Instead of: 250GB WD VelociRaptor 64MB 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s - WD2500HHTZ (HDD) (2.5" drive in a 3.5" 'heatsink') I ordered: 1TB WD VelociRaptor 64MB 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s - WD1000DHTZ (HDD) (2.5" drive in a 3.5" 'heatsink') I ordered: 1024MB ZOTAC GeForce GT 730 LP Passiv PCIe 2.0 x1 - ZT-71107-10L (for my J1900 CPU PC ;-) I read tests and tests and tests ... ;-) I decided to go with 1TB instead of 250GB, because I read 'more disks -> more read/write heads -> faster 'something'' - can't remember after reading so much. But faster is better. ;-) I'll see if the HDD LED will be continuously on, then I'll decide if RAM-Disk, or not. Hm, the (e.g. Sapphire's) AMD R9 295X2 (in AMD's reference design) have water cooling. It's a radiator with 1x120mm fan (it looks like). For 500W! (If someone have such card, the temps are OK if SETI/AP runs 24/7 on it?) AFAIK, if you would like to cool down (a 130W TDP CPU) like a big tower heatsink, you should go (e.g. Corsair Hydro Series H55) with 1x120mm fan/radiator. If you would like to cool more down, then a (e.g. Enermax Liqmax II 240) 2x120mm fan/radiator is needed. The AMD R9 295X2 with 500W TDP. This small 1x120mm fan/radiator can cool down this much? If I would go with water cooling, each HD7990 (375W) with water block, each with 4x120mm fan/radiator (for to cool down to tolerable 24/7 crunching temps), I would need in whole a 16x120mm fan/radiator. ;-) I guess in this case it would be better to use 4 own circulation loops. Because if not the 1st GPU get 'cool' water, the 8th GPU get already 'warmed' water for cooling. I guess this isn't good. Currently I have no idea to do this or that. I'm a water cooling beginner. ;-) I searched the web if I could find a shop which could add the water cooling block the the GPU cards, but until now I found no shop which could do this. Until now I have no idea if the GPU heatsinks are with paste or with glued pads connected. I don't want to destroy the chip, not the VRAM and not the voltage transformer. Finally, water cooling for my Monster would be very 'costly' - too 'costly' (complete €1,000+?)? Or I wouldn't need a '16x120mm wide surface (or 4x 4x120mm)' for to cool down to tolerable 24/7 crunching temps (maybe like the stock fans/heatsink turn at 100%?)? Hints and tips are very welcome. Thanks. |
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