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Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
no it's a fine/fee and nobody has ever done community service as they always get time to pay . And as I said you get the choice of not putting your name on the roll in the first place and if you don't vote then you don't get fined that is your choice to abstain There are costs in maintaining a election roll you are not charged to put your name on it but to stop the costs from spiralling out of control there is a fee/fine to remove you from the roll and to stop abuse of it . In other words elections are not a joke so once you chose to join in then don't stuff the Gov around by putting your name on and off at will and to take the whole thing serious witch I don't think happens in other country's . Your view would be to introduce electronic voting as a way to reduce the cost of election rolls but once again the simlpletons view that does not think past the how do we save money on this and dismisses the problems with that sort of solution fraud . One day you may just understand how to get to Utopia and it can't be done without social engineering good luck as it doesn't seem to be working in your own country does it your way I mean |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
no it's a fine/fee and nobody has ever done community service as they always get time to pay . I'm not sure why what I'm saying is so difficult for you to simply say "yeah, that's how it is over here". It's a fine or community service. It doesn't matter if no one does community service, that's the compulsory motivation for forcing people to vote. It is as I said. Your view would be to introduce electronic voting ... I really don't think you're in a position to tell me what my view is. Have we had discussions about my views on electronic voting? No? Then don't do the same thing CLYDE does to everyone, otherwise you're just as guilty of putting words in other people's mouths based upon your own assumptions. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30796 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
As you say, that isn't freedom, any more than compulsory jury duty is freedom, or military service. If you are compelled you are a slave.no it's a fine/fee and nobody has ever done community service as they always get time to pay .I'm not sure why what I'm saying is so difficult for you to simply say "yeah, that's how it is over here". It's a fine or community service. It doesn't matter if no one does community service, that's the compulsory motivation for forcing people to vote. It is as I said. Yes, it is a very minor thing, but how does that saying go about the camel getting his nose in the tent? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 35396 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
As you say, that isn't freedom, any more than compulsory jury duty is freedom, or military service. If you are compelled you are a slave.no it's a fine/fee and nobody has ever done community service as they always get time to pay .I'm not sure why what I'm saying is so difficult for you to simply say "yeah, that's how it is over here". It's a fine or community service. It doesn't matter if no one does community service, that's the compulsory motivation for forcing people to vote. It is as I said. Some people over there may think that it's a duty overtaking civil freedoms, but we look at it as having civic pride in our country to make sure that it has the best government available for us and that there can be no arguments or coverups on the outcome unlike in other countries where <50% vote and 24% decide the outcome, more so when you consider that most of that 24% could the total sum of imbeciles in that country (as we have also seen elsewhere). Cheers. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30796 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
50% turnout is huge! Try https://www.lavote.net/ElectionResults/Text/3577 the last election in Los Angeles County where 17.1% was the turnout.As you say, that isn't freedom, any more than compulsory jury duty is freedom, or military service. If you are compelled you are a slave.no it's a fine/fee and nobody has ever done community service as they always get time to pay .I'm not sure why what I'm saying is so difficult for you to simply say "yeah, that's how it is over here". It's a fine or community service. It doesn't matter if no one does community service, that's the compulsory motivation for forcing people to vote. It is as I said. Total Registrations 5,254,698 Vote by Mail Ballots 486,219 Poll Ballots 412,014 And now all of you know why tRump is in office. American's don't have a "NONE OF THE ABOVE nincompoops" choice. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
And now all of you know why tRump is in office. American's don't have a "NONE OF THE ABOVE nincompoops" choice. So true! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
On April Fools' Day, the Russian Foreign Ministry came up with a jape that took aim at the accusations against Russia which have become hot topics in the US :) The Russian Foreign Ministry created "a new answer message" for Moscow's diplomatic missions abroad kindly offering callers such services as election meddling, Russian hackers' tradecraft, and a defamatory call to their political opponent. |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3778 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
And now all of you know why tRump is in office. American's don't have a "NONE OF THE ABOVE nincompoops" choice. I know (hope? well the reply was) you're kidding, but just for anyone outside the U.S. who might think this is actually true... the write-in candidate can be any "nincompoop" the voter chooses, and there is a list at the bottom of the article of candidates (some quite famous ones) who won though not on the ballot with write-in/sticker votes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30796 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And now all of you know why tRump is in office. American's don't have a "NONE OF THE ABOVE nincompoops" choice. Some jurisdictions require write-in candidates be registered as official candidates before the election. I think Wiki is wrong with the word "some," and that word should be "most." IIRC there is only one state that doesn't require registration to count write-in's. In all the others unless the person is registered the write-in is abstention or voids the ballot. The powers that be want to retain power at all costs. None of the above is the only way to break the two party system. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30796 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
http://tass.com/world/938600 MOSCOW, March 30. /TASS/. In the period of 2009 through 2016, the Russian Justice Ministry recognized 95 materials circulated by the Jehovah’s Witnesses Managerial Center in Russia religious organization as the ones having an extremist nature, the ministry said in a report at its official homepage. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
World’s biggest nuclear sub to show off in the Baltic Russia will show its strongest naval muscles at the Navy Parade in July. https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2017/04/worlds-biggest-nuclear-submarine-show-off-baltic-sea For those who want to see, but can’t go to St. Petersburg, the vessel will have to sail at surface under the Øresund Bridge. Piloted vessels through Flintchannel has a maximum allowed draft of 7,2 meters at mean sea level, according to Swedish Maritime Administration. The draught of a Typhoon submarine is 12 meters. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30796 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
http://tass.com/politics/939566 MOSCOW, April 5. /TASS/. US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson will visit Moscow on April 11-12 to hold talks with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Wednesday. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30796 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
http://tass.com/world/938600 Add this read http://tass.com/world/939582 Each adherent is expected to unconditionally obey the will and aims of the organization. Nobody is allowed to leave it of one’s own accord. The movement expects its members to be hostile against all those who do not recognize its teaching. For this reason Jehovah’s Witnesses are often accused of inciting religious enmity. Sound like another branch of the god of Abraham? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
http://tass.com/world/938600 Oh dear... The Russian authorities are clamping down on extremism nationwide. Video http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39500648 And Jehovah’s Witnesses "operate" here in the Nordic countries as well! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Vladimir Lenin April 13th Stockholm is beautiful. We're pleased by Swedish socialists' warm reception. https://twitter.com/VLenin_1917/status/852488284790026240 Oops. Wrong century:) |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
TASS news agency: Afghanistan asks Russia for support in supplies, training for military, police http://tass.com/world/941640 |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
We welcome another Russian Disaster in Afghanistan. It's fantasy, not interesting fantasy. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Russia's new Arctic Trefoil military base on Franz Josef Land unveiled with virtual tour. Located at 80 degrees north, the Nagurskoye military complex is the largest human made structure so far north. That's just 220 km east of Norway's Svalbard, demilitarised area. Brrr:) http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39629819 Nagurskoye Military Complex on Franz Josef Land has its own Orthodox church; the world's northernmost. Photo: Russian Ministry of Defense https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2017/04/take-look-inside-russias-northernmost-arctic-military-base |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
It sounds like a crime novel. And clearly, it has the elements of a scary book. However, this story is real, says Andrey Kapitonov, the former party leader in Murmansk. https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2017/04/fsbs-infiltration-political-party-parnas-aimed-norway/ In what appears as a surrealistic-like conspiracy against the liberal political party Parnas, the FSB first managed to hire Kapitonov and make him establish a local party office. Then Kapitonov was sent to the Norwegian border town of Kirkenes where he was to approach the Norwegian secret police PST and request financial support. Later, when back in Murmansk, Kapitonov was to announce that his party was nursing contact with NATO country Norway and receiving money from a foreign intelligence service. |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
Just the historical results of Expanding Empires: Huns, Hindus, Russian, American, et al. Believing they can 'control' this Islamic Region. Just mentioned historical events (btw, incorrectly simplified to one row) has no relation to a present situation. |
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