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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11408 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
The dollar is worth squat because the USA debt ceiling is not zero. BS the dollar or any other currency is worth what people think it is, just as stocks are. We could go into a discussion about Kenysian economics but I doubt that would be productive, your beliefs and mine are quite different on that subject therefore we could not agree on a common set of assumptions. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11408 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
betreger bro don't use big words i only have a high school education . You prove my point. That is too bad you are smart your values I generally agree with but you lack some important enough weapons. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
You prove my point. That is too bad you are smart your values I generally agree with but you lack some important enough weapons. Thanks . You know i sterr you Americans about money don't you . For someone that say's i'm not a capitalist i shore did ok on the stock market as a day trader about 15 yrs ago and bought and owned a house at 27 . It's meant as fun so don't ever take me to serious mate . I'm a bit of a Bogen or Larrikin as we say down here |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Clyde i think you will be surprised mate as they do know , and why they have stopped giving you more than the 2 trillion you already owe them . It mite be you guys that get into trouble as 2 trillion is something they can absorbed and won't cause them to crash and burn . |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Well don't be surprised then if they stop doing business with you . You may not be aware there still very weary of America because of the Asian currency crisis back in the early 2000's . I believe they are doing things to limit any damage you guys can do to them economically . That's why they stopped at 2 trillion they realized you guys could use it to control them . So don't underestimate them . They may still be a communist country but they are not silly and understand economics very well . |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30906 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The dollar is worth squat because the USA debt ceiling is not zero. You didn't quote in context. Obviously the question being asked was relative to other currencies over time. That implies what you say about what people think it is worth or its future worth, or how much of its value will be lost to servicing the debt relative to other currencies and their future debt service levels. And you are right, we would never agree if having any long term debt is good social policy. I think we might be able to agree that it is possible to have too much long term debt. I suspect we would argue over the shape of the curve of benefit of debt between zero and too much, much the same as the arguments over the shape of the Laffer curve. |
TRuEQ & TuVaLu Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 505 Credit: 69,523,653 RAC: 10 |
(about 19 kg) [quote] haha And soon the richest men in the world can't have more zeroes behind the first 1 because of storage limitations. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34060 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
(about 19 kg) [quote] I'm sure they would pay themselves through those limitations... rOZZ Music Pictures |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
(about 19 kg) [quote] Hi Hi New problems to adress:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0 I work all night, I work all day, to pay the bills I have to pay |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
oooowwww thanks Jan i just clicked on your link and a promo for a cool movie was shown first , that is right down my allay BLACK HAT can't wait There are 2 types of hackers those that wear a BLACK HAT and those that wear a WHITE HAT . And this white hat has to watch this movie BLACK HAT off subject but i could not resist |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
oooowwww thanks Jan i just clicked on your link and a promo for a cool movie was shown first , that is right down my allay Glenn Actually its Youtube who knows where you are. They select video adds from the country you are in. I think even in the town you are in. Otherwise we wouldn't have Youtube. Which remainds of economics. How can the economy allow this? Free TV for nothing as long you accept adds. Money for nothing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0 |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Free TV for nothing as long you accept adds. All the commercial stations here have adds even the gov run ones only they don't have so many . It's called Free to Air over here . We have 33 Digital stations in my area . They got to get money some how to pay for there costs . Can be annoying but better than paying Rupert Murdoch's pay T.V Foxtel which is $80 per month for a basic subscription on a 12 month plan |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Free TV for nothing as long you accept adds. We have the same system as England. Free SVT like BBC without adds and lots of Commercial channels, 150 I Think. Still you have to pay the provider a monthly fee to see mostly craps and adds. But the adds is in HD so why complain! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Everything costs someone, something. Yes. No free lunches. |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
The government cannot give to anyone what it hasn't first taken from someone else. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34060 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Everything costs someone, something. Ditto. Julie, do explain i'm curious. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Everything costs someone, something. There are exeptions. Here is EU MPs grabbing subsistence without working. https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.svd.se%2Flarssonsvarld%2F2013%2F06%2F26%2Fhar-roffar-parlamentarikerna-at-sig-traktamente-utan-att-jobba%2F&edit-text= A Dutch(!) clip with English subtitles. Sign In and Sod Off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VTpkdtzncT0 All EU MPs get subsistence. 300 euros doing nothing. Disgusting!!! |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
yes Julie please explain !! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Everything costs someone, something. & one of them being "red lights" by chance? |
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