> > > According to Sulu in Star Trek III, "About a dozen officers and
> men."
> > >
> >
> > Sorry Siran, Murasaki has already figured it out !!
> >
>
> According to my "source", that's wrong. Check out this link and see for
> yourself.
>
> Timestamp: Saturday, 25 December 2004 - 08:23 PM --800 (Pacific Standard
> Time)
>
> L8R....
Well, here is a conundrum, do we believe a fan site, or the movie. my question was based on the movie. but I'm not giving out prizes anyway.

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Gi'me another one. please!

Timestamp: Saturday, 25 December 2004 - 08:31 PM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)

L8R....

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

> > > > According to Sulu in Star Trek III, "About a dozen officers
> and
> > men."
> > > >
> > >
> > > Sorry Siran, Murasaki has already figured it out !!
> > >
> >
> > According to my "source", that's wrong. Check out this <a> href="http://members.aol.com/jakster33/FNC-BoP.html">link[/url] and see for
> > yourself.
> >
> > Timestamp: Saturday, 25 December 2004 - 08:23 PM --800 (Pacific Standard
> > Time)
> >
> > L8R....
> Well, here is a conundrum, do we believe a fan site, or the movie. my
> question was based on the movie. but I'm not giving out prizes anyway.
>

I believe that the movie failed to mention that the Bird of Prey referenced was a scout and not the much larger Bird of Prey. I have ST:3 on tape, but it's packed somewhere or I would watch it to find out for sure.

Timestamp: Saturday, 25 December 2004 - 08:34 PM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)

L8R....

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

O.k. Who is "Herbert" - and what did spock say to shut them up

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> The answer given here is for the Bird of Prey Scout located at this <A> href="http://members.aol.com/jakster33/K-22BoP.html">link[/url].

I go for the film references, which in themselves may be impossible, but nevertheless fan stuff tends to drift. Case in point, I have sitting beside me an original Starfleet Technical manual (bought it in grade school). In it there's a map of the UFP exploration zone with points all the way across it that NCC-1701 visited on its five year mission. The radius of the zone is listed as 4750 parsecs from the center to the neutral zones. That means, at warp eight, it would have taken the Enterprise 30 years to get from Earth to the Romulan border.

>
> O.k. Who is "Herbert" - and what did spock say to shut them up
>

Ick, arguably the worst episode ever made in any series. The Way to Eden. "Herbert was a was a minor official, notorious for his limited and rigid thought patterns." The label was applied by the space hippies to Captain Kirk. I remember Spock playing the harp and the hippies getting burned by the acidic plant life on Eden, but I don't remember much else.

1. Captain Kirk
2. Spock seems to partially understand them when he makes a symbol and speaks of the "One." As a result the hippies allow Spock to lead them to sickbay.

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> O.k. Who is "Herbert" - and what did spock say to shut them up
>

It's from "The Way to Eden". But, I'm having a tough time finding a reference to "Herbert" and what Spock said to shut the hippies up. I do remember that "Herbert" was a name they called someone in the academy. I'll continue....

Timestamp: Saturday, 25 December 2004 - 08:55 PM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)

L8R....

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Kudos to both Timmy and Murasaki, you both have parts correct. The original Herbert was a minor official, notorious for his limited and rigid thought patterns and the space hippies started calling Kirk "Herbert". Spock did shut them up by making the triangle gesture and saying "One, One is the beginning". then he said "I am not herbert".

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> Kudos to both Timmy and Murasaki, you both have parts correct. The original
> Herbert was a minor official, notorious for his limited and rigid thought
> patterns and the space hippies started calling Kirk "Herbert". Spock did shut
> them up by making the triangle gesture and saying "One, One is the beginning".
> then he said "I am not herbert".
>

Now that you mention it, I remember it. I'll stop my research.... Let me see if I can come up with a tough one for you Doc.

Timestamp: Saturday, 25 December 2004 - 08:59 PM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)

L8R....

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Nichelle Nichols was considering leaving the original series. Who, in part at least, convinced her not to? Extra credit if you can say why this later caused problems between her and William Shatner.

> Nichelle Nichols was considering leaving the original series. Who, in part at
> least, convinced her not to? Extra credit if you can say why this later caused
> problems between her and William Shatner.
>

Dr. Martin Luther King. Um... Shatner was a lousy kisser ?

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> I believe that the movie failed to mention that the Bird of Prey referenced
> was a scout and not the much larger Bird of Prey. I have ST:3 on tape, but
> it's packed somewhere or I would watch it to find out for sure.

I have the movie here on laserdisc, but I don't need to review it for this one. On approach to the Genesis planet, Checkov is telling Kirk, "I'd swear there was something there, sir."
Kirk: "A ship?" (not sure of the exact line)
Checkov: "For an instant, a scout class vessel."

> Nichelle Nichols was considering leaving the original series. Who, in part at
> least, convinced her not to? Extra credit if you can say why this later caused
> problems between her and William Shatner.


1.
I went in to talk to Gene - this was I was getting up nerve to tell him I was leaving the show, but at this point I went in and I said ' Gene, I've been watching each of the episodes and they each get better and better' and I said, 'And I discovered something: you're writing morality plays.' And he said, 'Shhh. They haven't figured it out yet.'

2.

Uhura became a role model for a generation of young black women, famously being one half of the first interracial kiss on American television.

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> > I believe that the movie failed to mention that the Bird of Prey
> referenced
> > was a scout and not the much larger Bird of Prey. I have ST:3 on tape,
> but
> > it's packed somewhere or I would watch it to find out for sure.
>
> I have the movie here on laserdisc, but I don't need to review it for this
> one. On approach to the Genesis planet, Checkov is telling Kirk, "I'd swear
> there was something there, sir."
> Kirk: "A ship?" (not sure of the exact line)
> Checkov: "For an instant, a scout class vessel."
>

Ok! They did mention that it was a scout ship. :-) The original quiz should have mention something since there is a Bird of Prey Great Bird class and a Bird of Prey scout. The Bird of Prey, in ST:IV was the scout. The Great Bird class is not capable of plantary landings, the scout is.

L8R....

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My Time: Saturday, 25 December 2004 - 09:48 PM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

> > Nichelle Nichols was considering leaving the original series. Who, in
> part at
> > least, convinced her not to? Extra credit if you can say why this later
> caused
> > problems between her and William Shatner.
> >
>
> Dr. Martin Luther King. Um... Shatner was a lousy kisser ?

Correct. Dr King asked her to stay because he considered her character a positive role model.

The kiss, though being the first interracial kiss on television, was not the problem. Years later, as the cast were busy writing memoirs, rumor has it that Shatner promised not to use the anecdote until Nichols had "Hailing Frequencies" published. He apparently went back on his word.

Murasaki

Did you get my message?

Santa

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> Murasaki
>
> Did you get my message?
>
> Santa

Yes, thank you.

In the original Star Trek, The death penalty was still on the books for what reason ?

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>
> In the original Star Trek, The death penalty was still on the books for what
> reason ?
>
the only thing you can be executed for is for going to Talos IV, a desolate place populated with eggheads who, if they had the gumption, could certainly travel off-site on their own.

Good Night All

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