I *know* that there's a way to find this out but I can't figure it out right now. I also don't belive that this is the correct place to find the answer but it's the best of the choices I could find.

I've just noticed that I've not had SETI work for more than a month and probably longer but don't know it.

This leads me to ask, isn't there a way for me (a user) to confirm that "everything is working properly" and if there was work available I'd be getting it?

I'm running BOINC and am getting climate data to process but every time SETI tries I seem to be getting Communications deferred responses.

I *thought* that there was a way for me, the user out "here" to also check if a project has more data for me to do.

Can anyone point me to the correct places to answer (and ask) these questions?

Thanks for your time and sorry to have to resort to this.

Try to reset the project. If that doesn't help then try unattaching the project (seti@home) then reattaching? Following that, you may need to see if suspending the climate project allows seti to connect and download. Sometimes, other projects will set theirs as a high priority and it overrides Boinc to the point that no other projects will run. Lastly, if none of those work. Then uninstall boinc and all of the projects and then reload them one at a time, preferably with Seti first so you can see if it connects and downloads. (I'd wait on downloading the climate project until you are sure Seti is running first, otherwise if it is overriding, downloading, installing, and running is only going to put you back where you started at) The other thing you can do is restart bonic and post the first 30 lines of the event log here, so we can see if there is some issue that needs to be addressed. Are you running the simple view of Boinc or the advance? On the pulldown of the application, find view and change it to advance, then under the "advance" tab click on event log. Copy the first 30 lines after start up.

Zalster

Hi! I'm having a similar problem. I haven't been running BOINC on my computer for a while because the computer's been unplugged while doing some renovations and I'm just trying to get it back up in running order after a while away.

I'd been running the APP_Info file and just saw a post from earlier in the year saying it was unnecessary and it was giving me an error, anyway, so I deleted it. Now I seem to be having issues running SETI@Home. I have tasks from the other two I run, Einstein and WCG, but SETI won't get any new files. I've done all of the steps you mentioned other than uninstalling all apps.

I have my shares set at 40 each for SETI and Einstein and 20 for WCG. I have tons of (very small) tasks for WCG and two (larger) tasks for Einstein but nothing for SETI.

I did check my log and saw this, which I think may be part of the problem:

Mon Jul 14 00:52:11 2014 | SETI@home | [error] State file error: missing application file seti_enhanced-i386-v8-core2-nographics
Mon Jul 14 00:52:11 2014 | SETI@home | [error] State file error: missing application file astropulse-5.0.i686-apple-darwin
Mon Jul 14 00:52:11 2014 | SETI@home | [error] State file error: missing application file astropulse-5.03.i686-apple-darwin

I'm guessing when I used the Terminal to add Astropulse and the GPU Apps it messed up some of the stuff that needs to be there for the current version.

Please let me know if there's an easy fix to this!

Also, when I did a manual request tasks, there was a response:

Mon Jul 14 00:52:43 2014 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Mon Jul 14 00:52:43 2014 | SETI@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need
Mon Jul 14 00:52:44 2014 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed

I don't know which of these two (or both?) is the problem. If you need more info, please let me know.

Thanks!

~Catherine

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Lastly, if none of those work. Then uninstall boinc and all of the projects and then reload them one at a time,

We have a winner! I tried each of the things one at a time to noavail until I removed it completely and reloaded it.

When I downloaded the new one to install I found the "Uninstall" command and ran that for good measure.

Reinstalled, reattached (after confirming my passwords again) and all seems right with the world.

Catherine,

It sounds like some of the files that seti needs to run are missing. Try unattaching from the Seti project. Then delete out the Seti@home project folder. I'm assuming you know where it is?

Macintosh HD>Library>Application Support>BOINC Data>Projects>Setiweb.ssl.berkely.edu

Move this folder to the trash and delete it. Then reattach to the project. It should redownload all the necessary files for you to run seti on you computer, except for the GPU. That's a know issue. You say you were running an app_info.xml? Were you beta testing or running a modified lunatic app? With standard mac apps at this time there is no need for the app_info.xml

You still may not get any work after this, as I am guessing that Einstein is probably overriding Seti. (it has a higher priority than seti and if you set the values for the 2 equal then Einstein wins.) that line

Mon Jul 14 00:52:43 2014 | SETI@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need

tells seti that you have no resources available (Einstein has priority of those) so it won't request any tasks. I had the same issue, so I would turn off Einstein when I wanted to crunch Seti. When I wanted Einstein to work, I'd turn it back on.


Michael,

Great to hear it is work again. Good luck and

Happy Crunching...


Zalster

Great to hear it is work again.

Thanks! I just realized that I've been doing this, almost without a break for 15 years! (Longer than I've been married!) ;)

It sounds like some of the files that seti needs to run are missing. Try unattaching from the Seti project. Then delete out the Seti@home project folder. I'm assuming you know where it is?

Macintosh HD>Library>Application Support>BOINC Data>Projects>Setiweb.ssl.berkely.edu

So, this folder doesn't exist. I have three folders in my projects, Einstein, WCG and something called "Virtualbox", which is empty... but it seems that it just got deleted when I unattached from the project? When I re-added the project, the file was created and it seems to have started running SETI... so I guess that's fixed.

You say you were running an app_info.xml? Were you beta testing or running a modified lunatic app? With standard mac apps at this time there is no need for the app_info.xml

I'd first downloaded it about 4-5 years ago, so I don't really remember, other than wanting to be able to use the GPU since I have one. I'm pretty sure I wasn't anything as "official" as a beta tester. I think I found the instructions for installing it on the forum here, possibly even the post that's stickied (I'm pretty sure it had something to do with AstroPulse). I remember having to use Terminal to make it work.

You still may not get any work after this, as I am guessing that Einstein is probably overriding Seti. (it has a higher priority than seti and if you set the values for the 2 equal then Einstein wins.)

If I set SETI slightly higher (45/35) will it run more often? I'd honestly never had an issue with it in the past. I guess I can see how the Einstein is higher priority... their jobs are due in two weeks while Seti's due in September!

I think I'll be OK for a while, though, as my total work done for SETI is 200K lower than Einstein, so I think it will be doing some catch-up to bring them equal, if I understand how the system works.

Thanks!

~Catherine

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so I guess that's fixed.

I'm glad to hear that it's fixed and now you are running Seti again.

wanting to be able to use the GPU since I have one

Ah yes, that does explain that. I'm doing the same thing right now with my mac on the beta site but it's not going that well :( Very few of us MacAddicts here so we are low priority for developing the app for the GPUs. There is testing of new APs apps but some issues, especially after each update that Apple does.

their jobs are due in two weeks while Seti's due in September

exactly..those guys over there know this and that's why it's so short, so they get priority over Seti. I can't say what changing the ratios will do. I just end up suspending Einstein until I want it to run then turn it back on. Your choice of how to deal with them over there, lol....


Zalster

Macintosh HD>Library>Application Support>BOINC Data>Projects>Setiweb.ssl.berkely.edu

So, this folder doesn't exist.

Aside from the typo in it, if all is well, this folder still doesn't exist on your system, as you will have added Seti using the http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ URL, thus the folder is called /setiathome.berkeley.edu/

@Zalster, the http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta address is used exclusively by Seti Beta, so that you can easily add both Seti and Seti Beta, without the BOINC client getting confused about which project you just added and where it should send work to. Those not beta testing applications at that project will add Seti, which is at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/

When giving URLs or folder names, always double check you got all letters and that you have the correct URL or folder name.

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Sorry Ageless, was a little rushed at work when I wrote that. Thought it didn't look right but didn't have time to go through my other computers to look at the folders.

Cath..Sorry for the confusion.

Zalster

Sorry Ageless, was a little rushed at work when I wrote that. Thought it didn't look right but didn't have time to go through my other computers to look at the folders.

A very easy way is to look at the browser's URL. :-)

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Appreciate the clarification. :)

To be honest, I was just looking for any folder labeled SETI (which there wasn't) and probably wouldn't have noticed it was wrong but I do recognize that accuracy is important, particularly for people with questions in the future.

And look! I have RAC!

Looks to be running smoothly!

It certainly would be nice if they developed a stable GPU app... it's funny, I'd think that a lot of the computer banks running SETI were on campuses and are Macs. Maybe that was for Einstein, though.

My fiance works in a research lab at UT Austin and I think most of them use Macs rather than PCs... not that they're running BOINC.

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It certainly would be nice if they developed a stable GPU app...

It has taken Apple a long time to release drivers for GPUs. Even now there is still trouble with certain Nvidia GPUs and their drivers, while maybe even the ATI/AMD GPUs' OpenCL capability is hampered.

All that doesn't make it easy to develop a sturdy GPU application. And even if there were good drivers available, then you'd still need someone who can port the application to OS X, compile it there and see what breaks when doing so.

With that said, GPU apps for Mac OS X are in beta test.

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Ah, I didn't realize it was an OS issue.

Definitely good to know.

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