Message boards :
Politics :
'Ordinary people'?
Message board moderation
Previous · 1 . . . 6 · 7 · 8 · 9 · 10 · 11 · 12 . . . 14 · Next
Author | Message |
---|---|
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
It's because you have based your "shakey" findings on a logical fallacy. Thank you... Man oh man, just what planet are you living on? 5 women raped, 3 pregnancies resulted - that's 60% with all 5 rapes documented by the Metropolitan Police... ...Fallacy? Think you better restart taking your medications! |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
What findings would those be? That a significant enough babies are born from rape that women who have been raped should be allowed access to the morning after pill? That being forced to have an unwanted baby, no matter how it was conceived, is detrimental to both the mother and the child born and society as a whole? That a ball of cells is not a baby and does not have more rights than the mother? All these truths are self evident. Anyone who twists the facts to say otherwise has an agenda which is more about control than the welfare of mothers and their children. Your beliefs will lead to evil acts. This is a fact that you are wilfully unaware of. Reality Internet Personality |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
You have based your argument on a rhetorical fallacy. That is why and how I have kicked your a$$. I understand and use the proper tactic. You need to understand and change your tactic to match or better my tactic. Wars are won and lost in much the same way.... You have lost, get better... Human life starts at conception. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Human life starts at conception. Nope, only when it has developed & a heartbeat detected. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
You haven't won at all. You've just ignored the facts you didn't like and then claimed victory. I don't think you understand what logic is. Reality Internet Personality |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Oh he does understand what logic is. Unfortunately I.D's logic is: - 2+2= (pick your favourite odd number & insert here). |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30906 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Oh he does understand what logic is. Unfortunately I.D's logic is: - No that not how it works. 2 + 2 = read bible 10! god said it was 10 so it is 10! nah nah nah nah nah I win. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Oh he does understand what logic is. Unfortunately I.D's logic is: - ...but that's an even number, I.D's logic shows that it must be an odd number. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
More fallacy, once again this time it's called killing the messenger. You do so in order to not address the topic. In person this works better then print. In print it looks just like what I have pointed out, you have address the messenger not the topic. I have not used the Bible in this argument---at all, nor have any of you used it correctly. LMAO! Life starts at conception. Potential is the female egg and male sperm. After they meet we have unique DNA of a human life. Please insert your science here, not opinion, or fallacy, or any stupid and ignorant jokes. Thank you for your time in this matter... Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24904 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Life starts at conception. Potential is the female egg and male sperm. After they meet we have unique DNA of a human life. Define Life in this context. Correct, but they are still tiny cells at that stage. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
.. That's not what you said. You quite clearly wrote (in all caps I believe) that a zygote is a potential human. You were quite adamant about it. Reality Internet Personality |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
2 + 2 = read bible 10! god said it was 10 so it is 10! nah nah nah nah nah I win.The Bible does say the value of π is 3. 1 Kings 7:23 |
anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
Look, sorry about your life---what else could I say.... My post was never about generating sympathy - it was to illustrate a reality and to see if an ideological standpoint could be tempered by it, that's all, so please don't trouble yourself ID :) I'm not sorry at all :) and nor is my sister. We found solace in nature - made friends with wild cheetahs and bush babies and chameleons and meerkats and honey badgers etc :) - although we never made much progress with scorpions and army ants :/ We would have preferred not to have been a life long-long instrument of torture to my poor mum of course, whom we love dearly :) and who now torments herself with her "failings" as a mother :( It could only have been achieved by either: a termination when we were no more human than say a couple of warts); or the option of an abortion where she might have been able to take the mental step to have us because she wanted to. That's why I firmly believe the choice should always be there for every woman. Not everyone who attends an abortion clinic walks out no longer pregnant. Some walk out knowing that they are going to be able to love the collection of cells when it becomes a baby and some of those are rape victims. If that's what you mean by human "exceptionalism" then fair enough - but I suspect it isn't :) |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Look, sorry about your life---what else could I say.... Whatever a woman decides, it should absolutely be her choice. I still remember the young girl from Ireland I men when I was about 17. She was younger than me and she came to work at the shop where my friend worked. She showed us her stretch marks and told us about the baby she had just recently had to give up. It was the saddest thing I had ever seen. Unfortunately being from Ireland she could not choose an abortion. Her family had made the choice for her and then sent her away. I will never forget her tragic, heartbreaking story. It should have been her choice, but other people had made the choice for her. Reality Internet Personality |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Life starts at conception. Potential is the female egg and male sperm. After they meet we have unique DNA of a human life. A human life, with all laws of the land applying to this human being. If this human has committed a crime worthy of taking his/her life then make the charge and let the law have it's way with them. If not, if you don't make the charge then you are just a guilty as the mother of the crime of murder, by accomplice. The unique DNA is more reliable then a fingerprint, so make the charge upon this person and state your reasons for wanting the death penalty applied to him/her. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11408 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
A human life, with all laws of the land applying to this human being. This is where we disagree. ID you won't convince others who disagree with your viewpoint why don't you quit posting on this subject. You are going nowhere with this, move on. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
The SCOTUS didn't disagree with me. They in fact agreed with me, got there by different means but never the less agreed. You won't convince others who disagree with your viewpoint, the law has spoken, why don't you quit posting on this subject. You are going nowhere with this, move on. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11408 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I was not talking about SCOTUS, I was talking about this forum. You have proven you can not convince people who disagree with you on this subject so why do you keep trying? A definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. That meets Einstein's deffintion what you are doing. You are continue to prove yourself to be insane. Seek out a mental health professional. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36258 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
But us civilised people know how wrong, on so many levels, that SCOTUS ruling is. ;-) Cheers. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
I'm sure that just like Nancy Patricia D'Alesandro Pelosi you have just misspoken. Isn't that right? :-) Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
©2024 University of California
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.