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Message 1513801 - Posted: 8 May 2014, 20:33:18 UTC - in response to Message 1513679.  

Well lets take an element heavier and more stable element then the naturally occurring ones we have on earth and used a synthesized element called element-115 created using particle accelerators. The power source is a reactor that uses element 115 as its fuel. In this reactor element 115 is used as a target and is bombarded with protons in a small particle accelerator so that when the proton plugs into the nucleus of an atom of element-115 it increases its atomic number and because an atom of element-116 which decays in just a faction of a second what element-116 releases(radiates) when it decays is anti matter. When the anti-matter reacts with any matter in our universe it converts to energy at 100% efficiency verse nuclear fission(less then 1%). The anti-matter is released into a tune tube and reacts with the matter that surrounds it that's then directed towards a gaseous matter target at the end of the tube the matter and anti matter collide and annihilate converting into energy causing the heat from this reaction is converted into electrical energy at a near 100% efficient thermoelectric generator(converts heat direction into electrical energy) much like the ones we have in on earth and in space satellites but no where near as efficient. So basically all were doing is using element-115 as a fuel and using a total annihilation reaction to provide the heat which is then converted into energy making it a compact light weight efficient on board power source.

Assuming you put all this together, you could have a vehicle of interstellar travel with the power of the sun to achieve the power levels required for an intense gravitational field enough to propel you easily to between solar systems. All of this in the size not much bigger then a bus.


That's only stupid nonsense. To start with, the most stable isotope of element 115 has a half-life of 0.2 seconds.



The following hypothetical reaction displays the maximum theoretical atomic mass of an Element 115 Isotope that could be produced from combining an Americium-243 nucleus with a Calcium-48 nucleus. The following reaction assumes no neutrons were liberated during the process of the reaction:

95Am243 + 20Ca48 → 115UUP291 → 113UUT287 + 2He4 → ...

The following reactions are the actual reactions that took place in the laboratory by bombarding Americium-243 with Calcium-48, which resulted in the two Isotopes of Element 115, indicated below, being identified.

95Am243 + 20Ca48 → 115UUP288 + 30n1 115UUP288 → 113UUT284 + 2He4 → ...


95Am243 + 20Ca48 → 115UUP287 + 40n1 115UUP287 → 113UUT283 + 2He4 → ...

The maximum theoretical atomic mass isotope of Element 115 that could be produced in the reaction, above, 115UUP291, would only have 176 neutrons in its nucleus. This isotope of Element 115 is shy 8 neutrons from containing the magic number of 184 neutrons. The two actual isotopes of Element 115 produced by this reaction, 115UUP288 and 115UUP287 contain 173 neutrons, shy 11 neutrons from the magic number of 184, and 172 neutrons, shy 12 neutrons from the magic number of 184, respectively.

The nuclear configuration of this isotope of Element 115 would be identical to the nuclear configuration of the only known stable isotope of Element 83, Bismuth, 83Bi209, containing the magic number of 126 neutrons, except that the Element 115 isotope would have one more energy level completely filled with protons and neutrons. 82 protons and 114 protons are magic numbers for protons because 82 protons completely fill 6 proton energy levels and 114 protons completely fill 7 proton energy levels. The 83rd proton for Bismuth is a lone proton in the 7th proton energy level and the 115th proton for Element 115 is the lone proton in the 8th proton energy level. 126 neutrons completely fill 7 neutron energy levels and 184 neutrons completely fill 8 neutron energy levels. Refer to the Nucleon Energy Level Table for Bismuth and Element 115, below, for the nuclear configurations of Bismuth and Element 115. This stable isotope of Bismuth, Element 83, has very unique gravitational characteristics. Refer to the Henry William Wallace Patent: U.S. Patent 3,626,605, “Method and Apparatus for Generating a Secondary Gravitational Force Field.”

http://www.google.com/patents/US3626605

NOTE: Producing the theoretically stable super-heavy elements is very difficult because the reactant nuclei of these nuclear reactions do not have enough neutrons to result in a product nucleus with enough neutrons to obtain theoretical stability.


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http://i.imgur.com/L6nn948.jpg
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Message 1513810 - Posted: 8 May 2014, 20:52:41 UTC - in response to Message 1513673.  
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If we bring point A and point B together by altering the local gravity, what happens to all the stuff which lies between those 2 points (e.g. planets I might be living on)?


I could write a novel on this subject but long story short nothing.

If you don't create an intense gravitational field to bring points A and B together and try conventional means you will run into time dilation problem. Considering if you could go close to the speed of light. Then maybe only a few or a dozen or a hundred or so years pass for the spacecraft on its initial trip to a remote solar system 100's if not 1000's of years (depending on location) would pass on Earth. Faster then light travel (FTL) is not possible at least with the laws in our universe that is however not to say there are not other universes out there that follow completely different set of laws.
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Message 1513907 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 3:29:13 UTC

Bending space is still highly theoretical and would require energy levels way beyond human capability. Maybe someone somewhere has mastered this level of technology but if they have they wouldn't need to trade with the likes of us.
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Message 1513999 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 8:32:19 UTC

Maybe someone somewhere has mastered this level of technology


Highly unlikely.
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Message 1514027 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 11:22:38 UTC - in response to Message 1513999.  
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Maybe someone somewhere has mastered this level of technology


Highly unlikely.


Very likely. As likely as there are 100billion+ earth like planets out there in our galaxy alone in this universe alone.

There is nothing saying there aren't heavier more stable naturally occurring elements in more "mature" solar systems. In fact my best guess would be element-115 is naturally occurring in almost every binary solar system. Sol our solar system is a baby in comparison to many others.

I'll further explain in greater detail or else somebody will say " that's impossible!" Sigh..

The Earth is not representative of all matter in our universe. the residue matter that remains after the creation of a solar system is totally dependent on contribution factors that were present during the creation of the solar system. This is true weather you believe the origin of the universe was an evolutionary event or that a supreme being caused this event to happen. The two main factors that determine what residual matter remains after the creation of a solar system are the amount of electromagnetic energy and the amount of mass present during the solar systems creation. Our solar system has 1 star which is our sun, but the majority of solar systems in our milky way galaxy are binary and have multiple star systems. In fact many single star systems have stars that are so large that our sun we appear to be a dwarf by comparison.

Keeping all this in mind it should be obvious that a large single star system, binary star system or multiple star systems would have had more of the prerequisite mass and electromagnetic energy present during there creation. This makes it possible for these systems to process elements that are not native to the earth. Scientist have long theorized that there are potential combinations of protons and neutrons which should provide stable with atomic numbers higher then any which appear on our periodic chart, tho no of these elements appear naturally occurring on earth.

88 out of the 99 first elements appear naturally occurring on earth some heavier elements do appear but for the most part we synthesize these elements in laboratories. Generally speaking the stability of these synthesized elements heavy elements decreases as atomic number increases.



The most important attribute of these heavier more stable elements is that the gravity A wave is so abundant that it actually extends past the perimeter of the atom. These heavier stable elements literally have there own gravity(A) field around them in addition to the gravity(B) that is native to all elements.

Bending space is still highly theoretical and would require energy levels way beyond human capability. Maybe someone somewhere has mastered this level of technology but if they have they wouldn't need to trade with the likes of us.


Technically we have the capability It would just require an energy drain that wouldn't make it practical. That's because our power supply is nuclear fission that's less then 1% efficient.

As for the Wouldn't trade with the likes of us? Really? Did we not trade with the native Americans when we landed here. Yes we had superior boats, weaponry and were technology superior in almost every way yet they occupied the land and had still had an enormous amount of resources and proved to be resourceful to a point.

That being said I'm sure if we went to some earth like planet and there was a less advanced species we would trade with them assuming the reverse hasn't or isn't happening to us already. I just pray that if someday we go on to exploring other earth like planets of lesser advanced species (if we aren't already) we learn from our past mistakes.

One thing I'm sure of is what we do to our planet and people one thing. If we start going out in the galaxy and conquering other lesser advanced lifeforms like we do here on earth that's another thing. The supreme being's hate that shit and if they didn't we wouldn't be here. I personally don't think we as a species are ready for the technology Ive been trying to explain to you kind people for the last 2 days. We more then likely have this technology already it's just open the public and probably wont anytime soon.

I can explain in detail with "PICTURES" of how the energy conversion is done step by step as well as a lot more fill in the blanks since this can be an overwhelming.

I'm done for now tho its 5am.


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Message 1514075 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 14:50:49 UTC

I can explain in detail with "PICTURES" of how the energy conversion is done step by step as well as a lot more fill in the blanks since this can be an overwhelming.


I did know there are elements in the Universe we can't find on Earth... Very interesting Sam! Would love to hear (and see) more about it:)

Do you know more about the amount of dimensions there are? The quantumphysics are quite understandable (except for the math:( but what I do keep pondering about is the remaining 7 dimensions we can't see, or hear or even experience at all (I think). Also if there are ten or eleven of them:

http://www.sns.ias.edu/~malda/Dimensions.pdf

This was an interesting read on the subject.

Are there any 'beings' who 'communicate' through these dimensions alone which we can't apperceive?
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Message 1514296 - Posted: 10 May 2014, 3:51:20 UTC - in response to Message 1514075.  
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I can explain in detail with "PICTURES" of how the energy conversion is done step by step as well as a lot more fill in the blanks since this can be an overwhelming.


I did know there are elements in the Universe we can't find on Earth... Very interesting Sam! Would love to hear (and see) more about it:)

Do you know more about the amount of dimensions there are? The quantumphysics are quite understandable (except for the math:( but what I do keep pondering about is the remaining 7 dimensions we can't see, or hear or even experience at all (I think). Also if there are ten or eleven of them:

http://www.sns.ias.edu/~malda/Dimensions.pdf

This was an interesting read on the subject.

Are there any 'beings' who 'communicate' through these dimensions alone which we can't apperceive?


Nice a troll.

One second there is a game going on when I get back ill explain everything with pop-ups since you seem to the only one on the forums for the capacity for abstract thought . (no I'm not a genius)

http://www.sns.ias.edu/~malda/Dimensions.pdf

child's play...

I'm willing to bet you never actually .... never mind give me you're skpe and ill show you.

No none of this is Photoshopped lol. I'll explain how I got the results and everything in detail

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Message 1514352 - Posted: 10 May 2014, 10:36:00 UTC - in response to Message 1514075.  

I can explain in detail with "PICTURES" of how the energy conversion is done step by step as well as a lot more fill in the blanks since this can be an overwhelming.


I did know there are elements in the Universe we can't find on Earth... Very interesting Sam! Would love to hear (and see) more about it:)

Do you know more about the amount of dimensions there are? The quantumphysics are quite understandable (except for the math:( but what I do keep pondering about is the remaining 7 dimensions we can't see, or hear or even experience at all (I think). Also if there are ten or eleven of them:

http://www.sns.ias.edu/~malda/Dimensions.pdf

This was an interesting read on the subject.

See also the thread:

Einstein's Intuition - Quantum Space Theory


Are there any 'beings' who 'communicate' through these dimensions alone which we can't perceive?

Quite possibly. All our searches assume electromagnetic radiation is used. There are other ways...

An intriguing possibility is if the way that we believe gravity is so weak because it 'leaks out' into other dimensions that form what space 'is', that might give a route for an alternate route through the geometry of space to allow for what appears to be faster-than-light transmission/travel when reappearing elsewhere in our assumed 3d physical space...

The anomalous orbits of stars in the outer reaches of galaxies is just one example that suggests there is more to gravity than we presently appreciate!


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Message 1517000 - Posted: 16 May 2014, 15:54:45 UTC - in response to Message 1514296.  

I can explain in detail with "PICTURES" of how the energy conversion is done step by step as well as a lot more fill in the blanks since this can be an overwhelming.


I did know there are elements in the Universe we can't find on Earth... Very interesting Sam! Would love to hear (and see) more about it:)

Do you know more about the amount of dimensions there are? The quantumphysics are quite understandable (except for the math:( but what I do keep pondering about is the remaining 7 dimensions we can't see, or hear or even experience at all (I think). Also if there are ten or eleven of them:

http://www.sns.ias.edu/~malda/Dimensions.pdf

This was an interesting read on the subject.

Are there any 'beings' who 'communicate' through these dimensions alone which we can't apperceive?


Nice a troll.

Don't be rude.


One second there is a game going on when I get back ill explain everything with pop-ups since you seem to the only one on the forums for the capacity for abstract thought . (no I'm not a genius)

http://www.sns.ias.edu/~malda/Dimensions.pdf

child's play...

I'm willing to bet you never actually .... never mind give me you're skpe and ill show you.

No none of this is Photoshopped lol. I'll explain how I got the results and everything in detail

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I assume you are talking about creating some sort of Einstein-Rosen bridge using dense or exotic matter to create a small black hole.

This sort of space travel has been long used in various science fiction novels and is hardly a new idea. I think the whole Stargate series is based on a similar idea.

Apart from the obvious problems with the energy need to create one of these wormholes, I have never been convinced that there is a way for people to actually travel through one and survive.
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Message 1517008 - Posted: 16 May 2014, 16:16:42 UTC - in response to Message 1517000.  

I can explain in detail with "PICTURES" of how the energy conversion is done step by step as well as a lot more fill in the blanks since this can be an overwhelming.


I did know there are elements in the Universe we can't find on Earth... Very interesting Sam! Would love to hear (and see) more about it:)

Do you know more about the amount of dimensions there are? The quantumphysics are quite understandable (except for the math:( but what I do keep pondering about is the remaining 7 dimensions we can't see, or hear or even experience at all (I think). Also if there are ten or eleven of them:

http://www.sns.ias.edu/~malda/Dimensions.pdf

This was an interesting read on the subject.

Are there any 'beings' who 'communicate' through these dimensions alone which we can't apperceive?


Nice a troll.

Don't be rude.


One second there is a game going on when I get back ill explain everything with pop-ups since you seem to the only one on the forums for the capacity for abstract thought . (no I'm not a genius)

http://www.sns.ias.edu/~malda/Dimensions.pdf

child's play...

I'm willing to bet you never actually .... never mind give me you're skpe and ill show you.

No none of this is Photoshopped lol. I'll explain how I got the results and everything in detail

UBC.edu

I assume you are talking about creating some sort of Einstein-Rosen bridge using dense or exotic matter to create a small black hole.

This sort of space travel has been long used in various science fiction novels and is hardly a new idea. I think the whole Stargate series is based on a similar idea.

Apart from the obvious problems with the energy need to create one of these wormholes, I have never been convinced that there is a way for people to actually travel through one and survive.


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Message 1517263 - Posted: 17 May 2014, 0:14:21 UTC - in response to Message 1517000.  



Apart from the obvious problems with the energy need to create one of these wormholes, I have never been convinced that there is a way for people to actually travel through one and survive.


My point exactly. As of today we don't know of any way to create that kind of power or what the result would be upon entering one.
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