Lol, so that must be the reason why the Jocks want independence then.

Always thought it was a funny reason :-)

:) Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just have a nice group hug and agree to be earthlings instead :)))))

ooh - knock at the door - probably those men in white coats again :/

That would be nice, but Mssrs Obama, Putin & S would not like it.

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That would be nice, but Mssrs Obama, Putin & S would not like it.

Oh I know... that's what these lovely gentlemen are saying to me now... before they lace me up in the straitjacket. Think they have friends in the NSA you know... bye.......... :)

You're so right, my eldest son is a British citizen, born 1980, but my youngest son, born 1983, wouldn't be except for an attachment to his birth certificate issued by the foreign office. Even with that attachment the Passport office in Liverpool took some convincing.

Firstly, people who live in Scotland are called Scots, Scotch is is a generic term for Whisky or Whiskey that you drink.

Thanks :) I thought it should be Scots indeed but to be sure looked into dictionary ...and was little deceived:

шотландец Universal (Ru-En)

м.р.
Scot; Scotchman; собир. the Scotch

I'll look other parts later

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You're so right, my eldest son is a British citizen, born 1980, but my youngest son, born 1983, wouldn't be except for an attachment to his birth certificate issued by the foreign office. Even with that attachment the Passport office in Liverpool took some convincing.

Glad you convinced them. We're going back some time now - but a similar situation occurred affecting one of my half-siblings. My half sister was second generation entitled, my half brother not. British immigration turned up at my step mother's door with a deportation warrant for my half brother who was seven months old at the time. She packed a bag for him and everything but the four burly men refused to take him :)

So.... um ... how to get back on topic ...

Hi Raistmer!!! I think it's really nice how you're trying to work out us British types! Good luck! Perhaps when you have... you could let us know too? :)

And good scotch tastes better than vodka and costs way too much.

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I admit I don't know much about European City States but I have a question. As the Union Jack is a combination of several city states what will the flag look like if the Saint Andrew's Cross is removed? Further what about the colonies that still use the Union Jack as part of their flag? Australia and New Zealand come to mind. Also I assume there will be a King of Scotland so who will be the Head of State of said colonies? I do hope those down-under don't become another Ukraine waving different flags. Or will there be a vote?

Chose one.
Charles.

Braveheart.

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The second one, maybe he could bring braveheart back :-)

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I really don't think that us "down-under" will be bothered by it.

In fact we'd more likely have a bloody good laugh about it and make up more jokes just to commemorate the event. I can bet that the Kiwi's will probably do the same thing and then we'll have contests to see which 1 of us can come up with the best jokes. ;-)

Cheers.

Maybe we can get Idi Amin to return as "King of Scotland"
...and the new flag, in keeping with tradition :-)

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Ok, thanks for additional details, but looks like besides of wrong naming I was quite generally correct in other statements.

So well, how do you think, if Scotland supposedly would leave UK and form separate state, would be right if "Scotland for Scots" statement will be baseline of one of biggest Scotland political parties, if rallies would be carried with statements like "Non-Scots - bags-railroad-London" or alike ?

EDIT: and how do you think would such things if they would supposedly take place alienate peoples in other parts of UK, in London for example?

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And separate disjoint question: will referendum be carried over whole UK or only in Scotland itself?

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And separate disjoint question: will referendum be carried over whole UK or only in Scotland itself?

Only in Scotland, by people living there.

That also means Scots living outside Scotland do not get a vote.

And separate disjoint question: will referendum be carried over whole UK or only in Scotland itself?

Only in Scotland, by people living there.

That also means Scots living outside Scotland do not get a vote.

Thanks, just as I thought about that.

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Those entitled to vote in the referendum will be :-

* British citizens resident in Scotland.
* Qualifying Commonwealth citizens resident in Scotland. This means Commonwealth citizens who either have leave to remain in the UK or do not require such leave, and are resident in Scotland.
*Citizens of the Republic of Ireland and other EU countries resident in Scotland.
*Members of the House of Lords resident in Scotland.
*Service/Crown personnel serving in the UK or overseas in the Armed Forces or with Her Majesty’s Government who are registered to vote in Scotland.

Arrangements for service personnel registered to vote in Scotland but likely to be serving outside of the country at the time of the referendum will be the same as for other elections.

Looks like territorial characteristic dominating. In short, "only Scotland" seems good enough approximation, thanks.

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Looks like territorial characteristic dominating

Not really. The referendum is open to all those that are resident in Scotland, as it is those people that it directly affects. If you were born Scottish, but have chosen to re-locate and live elsewhere in the world, then you have abdicated your right to vote in it's elections, and referendums upon it's future. The SNP have always said it is for Scotland's people to decide, and that means those actually living there.

Supposing that Russia decided to apply to join the EU, should every Russian everywhere in the world be allowed to vote on that? It would only affect those still living in Russia.

Sorry, I don't understand why "not really" then. What your describe is just that IMHO, all resident (all who constantly living there, on that territory) will participate, not matter what nationality is. IMO it's territory-based approach (versus nationality-based one, in that non-Scots even being resident in Scotland (born there and living there whole life) would not vote. As I understand such peoples _will_ vote.)

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Supposing that Russia decided to apply to join the EU, should every Russian everywhere in the world be allowed to vote on that? It would only affect those still living in Russia.

Yes, exactly. I understand those requirement just as such, only residents on that territory will vote, not others no matter what nationality is (in your example, all living in Russia, not only Russians, we have quite a lot nationalities inside country, all in equal rights).

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Well, we are aware of the three "R's", MP coins a new phrase......

The Three "D's"

"Dishonest, Deceptive and Disgraceful".

Says it all really about politicians!

Johann Lamont says she wants Scotland to have the self confidence "to lead the UK, not leave the UK"

We had a Scottish prime minister for 13 years.

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We had a Scottish prime minister for 13 years.

Two in fact, don't remind us, we are still picking up the pieces 4 years later .....

That's what i meant, it was badly worded i grant you.

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