musicplayer,

Over 40 years and no ET. The more complex the book the less likely ET is out there.

Didn't read the opening thread did you?

Robert

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

John,

You misunderstand. I believe in the Bible as the Word.

Robert

Robert,
Then fight for the word of God. Fight with all your inner strength! Fight for the word of God. Do it by quoting passages "directly from the Bible!". Robert even if you think it sounds wrong, quote directly from the bible. And God will pay you back 10 fold in the next life.

Robert this is the final Battle between good and evil. The final Battle between right and wrong. This is the final Battle between science and religion before the end. We are very close to the time when science and religion finally "merge" as one. The time when science proves the bible was correct. Fight for it.

John.

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... This is the final Battle between science and religion before the end.

For epiphany or apocalypse?

We are very close to the time when science and religion finally "merge" as one.

God no!

The time when science proves the bible was correct...

It already has done so, Amen. There's a few gaps and mistakes, but there's also a lot of historical stuff even if some of the dates and metaphor are a bit fuzzy.


What you are missing is all the Marketeering (pun on racketeering) by various religions in their own branding for how They interpret whatever it is They call Their 'Bible'.

Keep searchin',
Martin

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Ouch! Type 1. Name it. We are currently 0.84 on the Kardashev scale.

Over 40 years and no ET

Over two thousand and no second coming either. Difference is, I can admit there may be nothing out there.

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impossible, they are millions and millions out there in the universe !

We don't know that. Given the number of possible inhabited worlds, it's unlikely, but we may be the first. Someone has to be first, right?

It's more productive to search for evidence than speculate. Leads to fewer arguments too. ;^)

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I admit to Design, not chance. And in keeping with the math of the subject if you was honest the math points to no such thing as chance.

You can lead an atheist to evidence, but you can't make him think...

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

If there were a designer then she made many mistakes as there are many vestigial appendages and organs that have no function. Also: species go extinct all the time. So you must conclude a fallible designer. Since god must be infallible there can be no god involved in design of the world.

That logically implies that there is no god. Random mutations, adaptation and survival of the fittest fully explain evolution to those of us who do not deny that it is taking place. Here is an example of a long ago gene that randomly got switched back on. It was part of our DNA that no longer is needed. It also means that your ancestors had a tail at one time--perhaps 100 million years ago.



So I rejoin: you can lead a believer to logic but they remain irrational and delusional.

You can lead an atheist to evidence, but you can't make him think...

Yeah. Crick, Einstein, Feynman, Gates, Sagan, Weinberg... unthinking boneheads all.

The reason you get banished isn't because "socialist don't understand free speech", but because you insult people... even in your signature. It's called ad hominem. I'm sure you already know that.

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Depends on what you call Design. Or for that matter understand what Design is.

Chaos and order live side by side.


Is there not order?

Do they not live side by side?

Design says there should be an endgame. :-) I see Design.

I can lead, but I cannot make you think. That you must do for yourself.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...