EINSTEIN came to Princeton University in 1935 and was asked what he would require
for his study. he replied: "A desk, some pads and a pencil, and a large wastebasket to hold all of my mistakes."

Einstein made such a big effort that naturally he would get some
big results in the end...Now he knew this so perhaps explains his
humble attitude regarding his own abilities to those comparable
to his contemporaries.

Still, he was 'arf clever though and we will always consider him a
couple of universes ahead of anyone else.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Prof Stephen Hawking, talks in the short video.
I stayed up watching the live feed. Physics, is hard to understand.



Higgs boson-like particle discovery claimed at LHC

That is the big problem. Three interactions, nuclear strong, electromagnetic and nuclear weak, are included in the Standard Model. Gravity is not and is still a kind of island. Even Einstein failed in his unified field theory, although that included only em and gravity, not the nuclear forces. Perhaps we need a new Einstein more than a new accelerator.
Tullio

I'm not too sure Einstein would agree with you here, Tulio. Einstein did not
consider himself any more intelligent than his contemporaries. He stated that
his successes were down to him being prepared to spend more time and putting more
effort into his research.

What Eienstein considered himself to be is not relevant. One can be a genius and not contribute anything of significance to mankind's body of knowledge. Eienstein's contribution is unmistakable most probably because he had all of the qualities needed to put his thoughts in order and come up with the revelations now being used in science. This is what I think Tullio was referring to in his comment regarding the need for another Einstein.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Guys,
The presentations made by the two scientists at that conference was way too detailed for what was needed. Both of them went through page after page of very deep mathematics, and each page was full of abbreviations that only a CERN insider could understand. I bet that any physicist what watched those presentations would also have struggled to keep up with what they were explaining.

The presentations should have been much shorter and with simpler "bullet points". But i suppose those scientists are buried so deep inside the science of what they are doing, in their minds, it was clear.

John.

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Guys,
The presentations made by the two scientists at that conference was way too detailed for what was needed. Both of them went through page after page of very deep mathematics, and each page was full of abbreviations that only a CERN insider could understand. I bet that any physicist what watched those presentations would also have struggled to keep up with what they were explaining.

The presentations should have been much shorter and with simpler "bullet points". But i suppose those scientists are buried so deep inside the science of what they are doing, in their minds, it was clear.

John.

I wonder how would explain it Michio Kaku, Brian Greene, Lisa Randall or Brian Cox, for example.
Stephen Hawkings has already requested the Nobel Prize for Mr.Higgs, although it has not been proved for sure.

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What Eienstein considered himself to be is not relevant. One can be a genius and not contribute anything of significance to mankind's body of knowledge. Eienstein's contribution is unmistakable most probably because he had all of the qualities needed to put his thoughts in order and come up with the revelations now being used in science. This is what I think Tullio was referring to in his comment regarding the need for another Einstein.

Good to have a different angle on this:

Einsteins IQ: 160
Richard Feynman IQ: 125
So it's not just intelligence that makes for a genius as Bob points out.
Clearly there is something else and for Einstein he did have this challenging
mind and always followed his intuition rather than follow the thoughts of
the herd. Not following the herd mentality is what made him a winner in many
respects. There may be another form of intelligence yet to be discovered that
the likes of Einstein and Feyman both possessed to a very high degree.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Nick, a notional IQ does not indicate a genius that Einstein demonstrably was. I have an IQ of 148, and I struggle big time to understand both of Einsteins relativity theories .....

Don't put your self down Chris. Nobody understands Einsteins special and General relativity. Anyone that says they do are lying.

John.

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Nick, a notional IQ does not indicate a genius that Einstein demonstrably was. I have an IQ of 148, and I struggle big time to understand both of Einsteins relativity theories .....

Now I thought I was OK with an IQ of 129 but had yet to find a use for it.
But hey, Chris; your are a genius when it comes to potted plants though, at
least you found an outlet to shine in.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

I would say that quantum mechanics is more difficult to understand than relativity, and not because of the equations, that are simpler to integrate than Einstein's non linear equations. Chemists regularly use the Schroedinger equation to study the properties of molecules using approximate methods (such as Hartree-Fok or density functional theory and MonteCarlo) without caring much about the philosophy underlying it. Einstein understood it perfectly and reacted saying "God does not play dice".
Tullio

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It's an historic time! Kudos to the LHC staff!
O wonder!
How many goodly creatures are there here!
How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world
That has such people in't!

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If you don't touch it, you can't break it.
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That was on the Cattell B III Nick. Mensa did require 150+ to join, looks like they've dropped it these days.

Richard Feynman IQ: 125, would not have gained entry then. So one wounders
then "what do these test result amount to in relation to ability". With yours
as high as 148 Chris then you should have some good ideas on this.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Funny thing about the old Higgs Boson;
Physicists spent 40 years looking for it. Very elusive!
Physicists claim the Higgs Boson can explain why matter has mass and everything else in the whole universe!
Then they find it, big announcement, big party!

But now its old news, that's it, finished. Over and done with!!
*****
Does anyone see what the true problem is here?

There is a really big problem here with the announcement of the new "Higgs Boson like" particle! Can anyone tell me what the problem is?
Anyone at all?
Anyone including Nick and Chris who both seem to think they have above average IQ's! Common guys, let's really see how clever you are.

What's wrong with the big announcement they just made at CERN?
Do any of you ever understand what they just announced?
And can anyone spot the error or problem in the announcement they made?

(No tricks here. I will tell you the answer!)

John.

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@Nick

On the Culture Fair test used by British Mensa, a score of 132 places a candidate in the top two per cent of the population (the average IQ is taken as 100). On the Cattell B III, also commonly used by Mensa, a score of 148 or above would be required. All members of Mensa are in the top two per cent by IQ whichever scale their intelligence was measured by.

My test was many years ago, probably irrelevant now. I might have another go one day, I'll see. It's not important.

Mensa Supervised test sessions currently comprise two test papers. One is diagrammatical while the other measures largely verbal reasoning ability.

Mensa Q&A

Same here Chris, mine was done nearly 20 years ago so it will now have dropped,
due to age, down to about 114.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Funny thing about the old Higgs Boson;
Physicists spent 40 years looking for it. Very elusive!
Physicists claim the Higgs Boson can explain why matter has mass and everything else in the whole universe!
Then they find it, big announcement, big party!

But now its old news, that's it, finished. Over and done with!!
*****
Does anyone see what the true problem is here?

There is a really big problem here with the announcement of the new "Higgs Boson like" particle! Can anyone tell me what the problem is?
Anyone at all?
Anyone including Nick and Chris who both seem to think they have above average IQ's! Common guys, let's really see how clever you are.

What's wrong with the big announcement they just made at CERN?
Do any of you ever understand what they just announced?
And can anyone spot the error or problem in the announcement they made?

(No tricks here. I will tell you the answer!)

John.

Stop it Johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyy - stop it. You misinterpret both Chris & myself
regarding IQ levels. Yes, we both do have above average scores but basically
we scratch our heads regarding any evidence of benefiting from it. This is why
I quote Richard Feynman IQ: 125; my IQ is above his but no way am I in his
league of abilities. This leads me onto your question regarding the end result
to the discovery of the Higgs Bosun. To give you an answer here would involve
me having to study the Higgs Bosun phenomena, in depths, to be able to gauge an
acceptable answer. This I choose not to do, yet if you know the answer then do
come forwards with it. But do deal with this all nicely, John, else you'll
get no respect...which would be a shame since you are an intelligent chap.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Nick,
My point about IQ is that it doesn't exist. All men were "created" equal. The IQ test was invented by people who "thought" they were more clever than others. So they invented a way to measure just how clever they were. By doing this, they made themselves feel better.

So Nick i have never taken an IQ test, and i never will. But i know that i have an IQ of 100. I also know that you Nick, and Chris also both have an IQ of 100. You, me, all of us have an IQ of 100. We are all the same, we are all dummy's, we are all genius's. IQ is just a measure of "learned" knowledge and environmental upbringing.

I will deal with the answer to the CERN question in another post.

John.

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Johnney, go to the CERN Bulletin site and you'll find an answer to your questions better than what I could do, I am still running MonteCarlo simulations of p-p collisions in Test4Theory@home. In its message boards a CERN theorist, Peter Skands, is available to explain what a Higgs boson is.
Tullio

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Title;
The problem with the CERN announcement that they found a "Higgs Boson" like particle.

In an earlier message here, i asked if anyone could spot the problem in the big announcement that the CERN scientists just made? We are now 2 days on from the announcement and already its old news.
Why?
Why is it old news?

They spend 40 years looking for this elusive "Higgs Boson", the supposed "God particle". Now they find it and its already old news. Why? Whats wrong?

This is whats wrong here!!!
The Higgs Boson is supposed to be the particle that endows matter with Mass. In other words, the Higgs Boson should be the reason why all matter, atoms, molecules, stuff, and you yourself have mass. When you stand on a weighing scales in the bathroom in the morning, if the theory were correct, it would be the Higgs Bosons inside every atom in your body, that are being tugged by the Higgs Field, is the reason the weighing scales registers your body weight.

But its wrong!!

What they announced was just another particle, no different to any other particle they have in that yoke they call the "standard model".

That particle they just announced DOES NOT explain anything!
It does NOT explain why atoms have mass!
It does NOT explain why your body registers on the weighing scales in the morning!
And it does NOT explain the force physicists call Gravity!!!

And that is why the CERN announcement is old news! Because it explains nothing! After they have discovered this "Higgs Boson" like particle, mankind is no closer to explaining gravity.

And let the truth be known, its not the Higgs Boson that is puzzling everyone. Its Gravity that they still can't tie into the whole equation. This new particle does nothing to help incorporate gravity into the standard model. And for those who don't understand what the standard model is, its just a little table of small "bits" of matter that are inside hydrogen atoms. Its NOT complex at all! Its just bits of stuff that are very small!

Isaac Newton could not explain Gravity!
Albert Einstein could not explain Gravity!
And the scientists at CERN can't explain it either!

Thats why the Higgs Boson is already old news! They have NOT solved the problem! They still have not spotted the error! But i have it. I know where the error exists!

John.

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If you are so sure, publish your solution, don't keep us waiting.
Tullio

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Yes, John; it didn't surprise me that you touched on the gravity aspect here.
All the same, finding the Higgs Boson confirmed scientists long held theory
here about it's existence. It also gives an element of credence to the current
direction/path scientists are taking in their thinking and experimental research.
Given time, then along these lines, scientists might come up with an explanation
as to what is gravity.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

If you are so sure, publish your solution, don't keep us waiting.
Tullio

Tullio,
I wish it was that simple. When i started doing gravitational physics research, i never thought i would actually solve the problem. I was just doing it for fun, to pass the time.

But i did, i solved the problem, after several years of research, on my own. So i go to the trouble of finding out how to publish scientific results. And it turns out in the end that you need a doctorate or a professorship or something like that to publish in the appropriate journal. I didn't go to university. I learned what i learned on the internet and from reading lots of books.

What i have is worth a lot of money. But only to the right people! Think about it like this - Just because you know how to build a Boeing 747, doesn't mean you have the money or the skills to build one! Its a bit like that. I have the answer to the problem, but i lack the skills to know what is the next step.

So for the time being, i'm just sitting tight, trying to decide what to do with the information i have. Funny thing is, i have been sitting on the solution for about a year and a half now at this stage. And i still don't know what to do.

I could just give it away for free by posting the information on the internet on a website. But i would Be kicking myself for the rest of my days on earth knowing that i never benefited in any way from solving one of the greatest problems in human history. People just steal information on the internet, they just copy information to their own website and say its their idea. So posting the solution on the internet is a last resort. I will only do this if i'm very desperate or if i know i'm dying or something like that.

John.

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