If its spin is zero, it is a Higgs. If it is 2, it is a graviton. ATLAS has spoken but CMS has not, so far.
Tullio

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YES!


Morgan Freeman Explores 'The God Particle' in a Special Higgs Boson Episode of 'Through the Wormhole'

On the heels of the newest data released by physicists last week at the world-renowned CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) Conference held in La Thuile, Italy regarding The Higgs Boson “The God Particle”, Science Channel premieres a special episode of the Morgan Freeman hosted THROUGH THE WORMHOLE: IS THERE A GOD PARTICLE? on Wednesday, March 20 at 9PM ET/PT.

Looking more closely with yet more data and:


LHC cements Higgs boson identification

... Yet there is still some uncertainty as to whether the particle is indeed a Higgs, and if so, what type it is.

Results at the Moriond meeting in Italy suggest strongly that the particle's "spin" is consistent with a Higgs.

Teams from the two Higgs-hunting experiments, Atlas and CMS, analysed two-and-a-half times more data than were available in July in an effort to pin down not only the particle's existence, but also something about its character.

All that is conclusively established is that the particle is in the family of bosons, but researchers had been careful since July to describe it as "Higgs-like". ...

... The results reported at the conference - based on the entire data sets from 2011 and 2012 - much more strongly suggest that the new particle's "spin" is zero - consistent with any of the theoretical varieties of Higgs.

"The preliminary results with the full 2012 data set are magnificent and to me it is clear that we are dealing with a Higgs boson, though we still have a long way to go to know what kind of Higgs boson it is," ...



All very interesting...

Keep searchin',
Martin

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On the heels of the newest data released by physicists last week at the world-renowned CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) Conference held in La Thuile, Italy regarding The Higgs Boson “The God Particle”, Science Channel premieres a special episode of the Morgan Freeman hosted THROUGH THE WORMHOLE: IS THERE A GOD PARTICLE? on Wednesday, March 20 at 9PM ET/PT.

According to comments made on that episode of "Through the Wormhole" related to the Higgs Boson even though scientists now believe they have detected the particle new questions and possibilities have developed. One is that there might be up to 5 different Higgs Bosons and/or it/they may be composed of either smaller components. Will it ever end? Or is this just a ploy to justify seeking more funds to keep their jobs?

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

According to comments made on that episode of "Through the Wormhole" related to the Higgs Boson even though scientists now believe they have detected the particle new questions and possibilities have developed. One is that there might be up to 5 different Higgs Bosons and/or it/they may be composed of either smaller components. Will it ever end? Or is this just a ploy to justify seeking more funds to keep their jobs?

There was a book by two Italian physicists years ago, "La spirale delle alte energie", who advanced the same suspicion. But it was never translated in English, as far as I know. Prof. Emilio Segre' said something very similar in an article on the "Endeavor" magazine in 1972. But it is better to spend money on particle accelerators than on weapons, this is my humble opinion.
Tullio

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According to comments made on that episode of "Through the Wormhole" related to the Higgs Boson even though scientists now believe they have detected the particle new questions and possibilities have developed. One is that there might be up to 5 different Higgs Bosons and/or it/they may be composed of either smaller components. Will it ever end? Or is this just a ploy to justify seeking more funds to keep their jobs?

There was a book by two Italian physicists years ago, "La spirale delle alte energie", who advanced the same suspicion. But it was never translated in English, as far as I know. Prof. Emilio Segre' said something very similar in an article on the "Endeavor" magazine in 1972. But it is better to spend money on particle accelerators than on weapons, this is my humble opinion.
Tullio

In my opinion I am afraid the only reason the money is being spent is because someone thinks the results of the research can be militarized into who knows what kind of god awful weapon like a matter-antimatter bomb. I hope I am wrong and maybe a little too pessimistic.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

In my opinion I am afraid the only reason the money is being spent is because someone thinks the results of the research can be militarized into who knows what kind of god awful weapon like a matter-antimatter bomb. I hope I am wrong and maybe a little too pessimistic.

As a matter of fact, the "N" in CERN stands for Nuclear, while nuclear research is not the main objective of CERN. So politicians think "maybe they will give us more bang for a buck" and so finance subnuclear physics.
Tullio

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OK, the Higgs boson has tentatively been identified only to open up another Pandora's box of possible particles more basic than the Higgs. Where is all of this leading? I wonder how long the various European nation sponsors of the LHC will continue to lavish large sums of money on the facility without gaining any useable technology from the experiments. Knowledge for it's own sake is nice but it doesn't pay the bills or feed the masses.

So is there any experiment at CERN that has a high probability of developing into some useful technology, other than a bigger more deadly bomb?

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

OK, the Higgs boson has tentatively been identified only to open up another Pandora's box of possible particles more basic than the Higgs. Where is all of this leading? I wonder how long the various European nation sponsors of the LHC will continue to lavish large sums of money on the facility without gaining any useable technology from the experiments. Knowledge for it's own sake is nice but it doesn't pay the bills or feed the masses.

So is there any experiment at CERN that has a high probability of developing into some useful technology, other than a bigger more deadly bomb?

Discover first, Bob, then look to utilise if possible, second.

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Here is a "Nature" article:
Higgs boson on the cheap
Tullio

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Is'nt there spose to be 6 higgs particles 1 down 5 more to find

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Thank's Lynn 1 down 4 more to find hehehehehe

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Welcome Glenn. Cern, comes back online in 2015. We wait till then.

What a waste of a couple 10's of billion dollars chris ya reckon , heheheheh

so long as they don't pump to much power into it and blow up the thing , let the boys play with there shinny new toy you never know what they will find

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I tend to think they are looking for something that either doesn't exist or is beyond our power to detect. Either having the same result. I just hope that some new scientific discovery is made that will validate the amount of money that was poured into the LHC project. I suspect that the governments who sponsored this project were expecting some tangible return on their investment. My experience is that governments rarely if ever fund science projects purely for the sake of the knowledge that may be gained. They could have spent the money for much more practical science and engineering or they could have fed a lot of starving children that I see on late night TV.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

here , here I agree scince is never cheep

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Please call it anything, just not The God Particle.


Higgs boson: Call to rename particle to acknowledge other scientists

Here here Lynn I agree why change it Higgs is the one that came up with the theory sounds like some ego's are getting brused

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