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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Hey, Johnny's being pulling our legs for an awfully long time now, he'll Ahhhhh......Nick cracked it in the end, clever boy Nick. You were able to see through all the bull i was feeding you, weren't you Nick. You must have gone to collage or something like that Nick. Yep, i made the whole thing up just to get ye all going! I was even going to try to sell books to everyone here. I been sneakly hanging out here for years now trying to sell books to everyone. But Nick cought me in the end. I mean, for God's sake, did ye really all believe me when i told ye that i had "actually found God". Pull the other leg and i will fall over. But you got to admit, i had you guys going there at one stage! LOL Yep, there is no doubt, the Higgs Boson is real! Its so real i might be able to buy a few in the shops next week. John. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Tevatron says they have reached 2.9 sigma. Now wait for CERN. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
Tevatron says they have reached 2.9 sigma. Now wait for CERN. sigma of 2.9 is better than 99%. 5 sigma is better than 1 part per million error chance. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21204 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... I mean, for God's sake, ... You can still write your book... Note that films have been made out of less material! Keep searchin' Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Michael Watson Send message Joined: 7 Feb 08 Posts: 1387 Credit: 2,098,506 RAC: 5 |
Whatever is to be announced about the Higgs boson, it will be done at 07:00 Universal Time, tomorrow, Jul. 4. Link to website carrying the announcement live:http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/# I suspect that the site may be overloaded at that time, and so, difficult to connect to. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
... I mean, for God's sake, ... Martin, What i said here about the Higgs Boson not existing, i still stand over it. The Higgs Boson is NOT part of my research. But from the results of my physics research, i know it does not exist. Its just one of the consequences of the physics discovery i made. Among the other consequences, and as i mentioned here before, there are no black holes, there is no dark matter, there is no dark energy, there are no singularities, and the universe did NOT start with the so called "Big Bang". Astronomers say today that the matter we observe with astronomical telescopes is only about 4% of the universe. I say thats wrong. We can see the whole lot, we can see the full 100%. I found the error that has existed since the time of Isaac Newton. An error that even Einstein could not solve. Well i solved it. I found out what Gravity really is! When you people find out what Gravity really is, then you will know i was correct! I attempted to publish my physics results in a physics journal, and i found i was blocked because i didn't go to university. Apparently the "acedimics" want to reserve the science journals of the world for the upper classes. Well in your face, i cracked the problem! This is my skill in life, i solve problems. And i'm dam good at it! John. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Go to the Science/Astronomy picture of the day thread and you can see a picture of black hole Cygnus X-1 taken by the NuSTAR X-ray telescope. Tullio |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Go to the Science/Astronomy picture of the day thread and you can see a picture of black hole Cygnus X-1 taken by the NuSTAR X-ray telescope. Ahhhhh Tullio, i'm disappointed with you. Tullio your a physicist, with at least a degree in physics. Tullio of all the people who post messages here, you should be the one who states things clearly. Tullio do i really need to remind you that black hole "theory" clearly states that NOTHING, even light cannot escape from a black hole. That is simple black hole science. I looked at the so called black hole picture in the astronomy picture thread here; http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=20748 Tullio that picture is NOT a picture of a black hole!! And lets be very clear about that!! Its a picture of "stuff", matter and electromagnetic radiation being "ejected" out of an area that astronomers describe as a black hole. But you are NOT seeing the black hole itself. The bright bit you see in the image is normal everyday matter, atoms, molecules and bits of asteroid being lit up by radiation ejected from the so called black hole. Anyway, CERN will be making their announcement in a short while, let's see what they have to say about Higgs Bosons. I will be watching it live fro the CERN webcast; http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/# John. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Matter falling in a black hole from an accretion disk is heated to high temperatures and emits X-rays.This is what NuSTAR sees. Tullio |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
LHC data confirm discovery, but not identity, of Higgs-like entity. The Cern laboratory may have let slip its biggest breakthrough in a generation after appearing to announce the discovery of a new particle in an online video. this part might be true. But although their results are said to be strong enough to claim an official discovery, the scientists will avoid doing so because they remain unsure whether the particle they have found is indeed the Higgs. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
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Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Somebody ought to save all this to play back ten years from now. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
From what I heard from the webcast: CMS 125.3 GeV at 4.9 sigma ATLAS 126.5 GeV at 5.0 sigma Only criticism: we Test4Theory@home volunteers never mentioned. Tullio |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-collider/9374788/Higgs-Boson-announcement-from-Cern-LIVE.html The interesting thing here is that if this is not the Higgs Boson then they have discovered something even more profound in science...yup, an unexpected new type Bosun. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
I sat through all the presentations this morning. There were 2 presentations, one by the CMS team, and one by the Atlas team. That was followed by the press conference. The first 2 teams of scientists utterly baffled me with some of the most blinding mathematics i have ever heard in my life. It was extremely difficult to weed out any simple information from the presentations. It was immensely complex science. The press conference afterwards was not too bad. They seemed to be talking plain English at that. I did get a few snip-its of info from that press conference. They do seem to have enough evidence to support a new "Higgs like" particle. But its very far from explaining the force we call gravity. John. |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
But its very far from explaining the force we call gravity. Be patient, John; Rome wasn't built in a day! Give it until the weekend, they may have Gravity sorted out by then...he-he... The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
That is the big problem. Three interactions, nuclear strong, electromagnetic and nuclear weak, are included in the Standard Model. Gravity is not and is still a kind of island. Even Einstein failed in his unified field theory, although that included only em and gravity, not the nuclear forces. Perhaps we need a new Einstein more than a new accelerator. Tullio |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
That is the big problem. Three interactions, nuclear strong, electromagnetic and nuclear weak, are included in the Standard Model. Gravity is not and is still a kind of island. Even Einstein failed in his unified field theory, although that included only em and gravity, not the nuclear forces. Perhaps we need a new Einstein more than a new accelerator. I'm not too sure Einstein would agree with you here, Tulio. Einstein did not consider himself any more intelligent than his contemporaries. He stated that his successes were down to him being prepared to spend more time and putting more effort into his research. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Well, Einstein solved the mystery of the photoelectric effect via the Planck quantum, created special relativity, general relativity, introduced the idea of stimulated emission of radiation which gave birth to maser and laser, made also other contribution to physics which it would take too much time to explain (but see the book by Abraham Pais).What I would like to remember today is the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox of 1935 which opened new horizons to quantum mechanics and the following works by John Bell, the Bell inequalities, confirmed experimentally by Alain Aspect which brought to the entanglement phenomenon used in quantum cryptography, and, possibly, in quantum computers. He deserved at least 5 Nobel prizes and got only one, for the photoelectric effect, none for relativity. Tullio |
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