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Dirk Villarreal Wittich Send message Joined: 25 Apr 00 Posts: 2098 Credit: 434,834 RAC: 0 |
Let's build the Enterprise! Star Trek fan unveils bold plan to make Captain Kirk's space ship within 20 years Engineer says the Enterprise could be built with today's technology He hopes to inspire 'The Next Generation' with his plans to visit Mars By Eddie Wrenn PUBLISHED: 11:47 GMT, 14 May 2012 | UPDATED: 13:23 GMT, 14 May 2012 Read more here--->Daily Mail.co.uk |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Somebody must be breaking into Scotty's stash of exotic whiskey. So this fellow figured out how to make warp engines? Is his name Zephram Cochrane? Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31002 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Nah, remember the episode where Kirk transported into a replica and they tricked him into giving up his DNA? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24911 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Poor old Dan...think he should make sure his server is up to speed 1st....:) It's down at the moment. Also. he'd better start building the space dock 1st. |
Convergence Send message Joined: 23 Jun 08 Posts: 117 Credit: 2,928,788 RAC: 0 |
Besides warp engines, there are other big problems. One is gravity plating. Another is replicators. There are no force fields. No phasers. No sensors. |
DesO Send message Joined: 2 Feb 12 Posts: 144 Credit: 2,624,617 RAC: 0 |
I know alot is missing and possibly not possible for a long while but lets get the shell together and get those girls in and on post tight Confedearation Milatery uniforms...so say we all |
Julie Send message Joined: 15 May 12 Posts: 279 Credit: 126,042 RAC: 0 |
I know I would rather see the Enterprise built than another Titannic lol |
Julie Send message Joined: 15 May 12 Posts: 279 Credit: 126,042 RAC: 0 |
but it would all still be Made in China. They better have a net big enough to catch all the pieces when they fall apart xD |
Paul McKirdy Send message Joined: 21 Dec 11 Posts: 22 Credit: 178,870 RAC: 0 |
Actually warp engines don't require power they require attention geometry details... I recommend a starter frame of a submarine connected to two destroyers for stress testing in the ocean of connecting the warp boundary pontoons with with tubes from nose of destroyers to the submarine below... A circular hover-platform of some kind would serve well as the saucer section attached with a tube below to the nose of the submarine... We have plenty of extra dead shpis laying around in graveyards... I agree, I have no idea what the human race is waiting for to build something interesting... But anyway what do I know, I am just another dumb drunken Scotsman pretending reality means something... :) Electrons started spinning, electrons are still spinning and electrons will be spinning tomorrow to the best of our knowledge therefore either change in acceleration is persistent or friction is fractally less than understood. |
Paul McKirdy Send message Joined: 21 Dec 11 Posts: 22 Credit: 178,870 RAC: 0 |
With Rodin Coil style geometric winding patterns we are closer than we think... Stable controlled spinning magnetic fields... What a concept... Electrons started spinning, electrons are still spinning and electrons will be spinning tomorrow to the best of our knowledge therefore either change in acceleration is persistent or friction is fractally less than understood. |
Paul McKirdy Send message Joined: 21 Dec 11 Posts: 22 Credit: 178,870 RAC: 0 |
And the name on the piece of paper claiming I was alive at some point is Paul Garry McKirdy Jr., but then that was too just another piece of paper... If anyone would like more of the details I have already drawn up feel free to message me privately. Electrons started spinning, electrons are still spinning and electrons will be spinning tomorrow to the best of our knowledge therefore either change in acceleration is persistent or friction is fractally less than understood. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66328 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Besides warp engines, there are other big problems. One is gravity plating. Another is replicators. There are no force fields. No phasers. No sensors. No life support either, bottled air only lasts so long and subs can surface to get fresh air, in space there is no air. Plus the closest to impulse engines are ion engines and their pretty new, no idea how many would be needed, plus Ya need a way to break orbit. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
Perpetual motion, oh now I can see how it all works. He should have mentioned that right off, so I could have better used my time by going to the bathroom or whatever. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
Besides warp engines, there are other big problems. One is gravity plating. Another is replicators. There are no force fields. No phasers. No sensors. All they need is water for the creating of O2 and H2 which will fuel hydrogen burning power plants much like the space shuttle and ISS. They suggest a fairly robust Ion Drive that I consider the same as the Enterprise's Impulse drive. The planned mission would only take 3 months to arrive at Mars with this drive as opposed to 9 months with gravity assist alone. We shuttle food and supplies to the space station routinely. How much more difficult would it be to launch supplies in advance of the ships launch and have it catch up to the supplies enroute much like a pacman game In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66328 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Besides warp engines, there are other big problems. One is gravity plating. Another is replicators. There are no force fields. No phasers. No sensors. Yeah, it's possible, but then there is the very real danger of cosmic rays, gamma rays, radiation and x-rays, good enough to kill one before one would/could even arrive at Mars or back to Earth, Shielding is needed, Here We have a few miles of atmosphere and one heck of a magnetic field, So It would need a Nuclear power plant to power a strong enough field, one that would act like the one on Earth does and not like an electro magnet does and I'm not sure how to do that. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
Like i proposed before have a ozone layer in the shell of the ship. This would simulate the earths upper atmoshpere and catch most of the radiation. Better yet store the onboard water in a shell around the ship. As I recall from military training water is a great dampener of radiation In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66328 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Yeah, it's possible, but then there is the very real danger of cosmic rays, gamma rays, radiation and x-rays, Yabba, dabba, do! ;) Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Paul McKirdy Send message Joined: 21 Dec 11 Posts: 22 Credit: 178,870 RAC: 0 |
Yes it is, ex Naval nuclear propulsion operator, however it does not shield gamma of other types. Though anything density or local that increases time distance and shielding is beneficial. Electrons started spinning, electrons are still spinning and electrons will be spinning tomorrow to the best of our knowledge therefore either change in acceleration is persistent or friction is fractally less than understood. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66328 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Like i proposed before have a ozone layer in the shell of the ship. This would simulate the earths upper atmosphere and catch most of the radiation. Water though has to be kept from Freezing, as the temps in space are more extreme than here on Earth, and the farther away from the suns warmth, the closer to absolute zero the temp can get, water expands when frozen too and frozen water isn't too usable for some tasks. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31002 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Like i proposed before have a ozone layer in the shell of the ship. This would simulate the earths upper atmosphere and catch most of the radiation. The ozone layer is a nice idea, however it would need to be tens of miles thick to do any good. Kind of makes the ship rather large I'd think. Water is a excellent idea. We have to take it along anyway, so it can do double duty. I'd suspect we would have at least a double hull and perhaps a triple hull so micrometeorite damage could be contained and repaired. Putting the water next to the innermost hull would allow it to absorb some of the excess waste heat from the electronics, I doubt there would be need of heaters to keep it from freezing, more likely chillers to keep it cold. The problem with a water jacket is that it can't 100% cover a space ship. There will be areas which won't have this protection. We can limit human exposure times in these spots, but once you have a hole there is always some angle that a particle can enter and reach any spot inside. The item that will be needed is a large magnetic field around the ship. This will deflect the charged particles. Perhaps it would also allow them to be harvested along the way. But this still allows the uncharged particles and gamma radiation through. All of this design talk is premature. We first need to send a few probes into interstellar space to measure the environment. If it turns out that it is too hostile for a man to be in a space suit doing an EVA to repair a hole in the hull, then it may turn out we can't leave the protection of Sol. |
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