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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I believe there is a black hole at the center of every galaxy. There is ample evidence for this, and the observations agree with the theoretical models. This is what science is about. Tullio |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
I believe there is a black hole at the center of every galaxy. There is ample evidence for this, and the observations agree with the theoretical models. This is what science is about. Tullio, Yes, agreed! Thats the "current" explanation given by astronomers and cosmologists. So Tullio if brand new science turned up tomorrow, or in the near future, that completely ruled out the existence of black holes, wouldn't that be shocking! Yes, that would be shocking if brand new science told us that black holes don't exist. But what would be more shocking is that I, Johnney Guinness, knew about it before they announced the news! How could i know that tullio? Do you understand exactly why my statement is so significant? As i said, if that new science evidence did turn up tomorrow, then in all probability i'm pretty sure you guys would think nothing of what i have posted here on this forum. But for anyone that understands the science, they would know that i was the one that discovered it first. It would also be "proof" that i'm telling you guys the truth about the book i found. Because that is where i got the information. Along with thousands of other absolutely incredible science breakthroughs. John. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66324 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
This 2012 doomdays day stuff is crap, as it has been proven that there are more sections of the Mayan Calendar than was previously thought, if that is what this thread is about, if not, please forgive My intrusion... Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
As i said, if that new science evidence did turn up tomorrow, then in all probability i'm pretty sure you guys would think nothing of what i have posted here on this forum. But for anyone that understands the science, they would know that i was the one that discovered it first. It would also be "proof" that i'm telling you guys the truth about the book i found. Because that is where i got the information. Along with thousands of other absolutely incredible science breakthroughs. You're right John, if (and that's a big IF) it turned out somehow that black holes don't exist, because you haven't provided any scientific data for your claim, I would brush it off as a lucky guess and not evidence of superior scientific data. You would need to be spot on about several claims in order for people to start paying attention to you. Right now, you're just selling everyone on predictions and wild claims. So far, not a single claim has come true. If you want credibility, you need to provide more substance or start having some claims showing up real soon. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
I already run a fleet of websites Chris; Yes, these are some of my websites; www.paddysinspace.com www.unitedboinc.com www.irelandboinc.com www.boincteams.com And i voluntarily took over the hosting of the Unofficial BOINC Wiki about 2 years ago. http://www.boinc-wiki.info/ Plus i'm involved in other websites that i am not willing to discuss. Ozzfan said: You're right John, if (and that's a big IF) it turned out somehow that black holes don't exist, because you haven't provided any scientific data for your claim, I would brush it off as a lucky guess and not evidence of superior scientific data. Ozzfan, For once i completely agree with you. And i am siding with you on this one. I have made extraordinary claims, and i haven't provided a single scrap of hard evidence. hmmmm......not sure what to say Ozzfan, but your right. I'm at this a long time now. I work at this full time. I put in 11 and 12 hour working days, sometimes 6 days a week. I'm after spending a lot of money to fund the research trips, and they are not cheap. And i'm currently stuck in the research. I have hit a very difficult stumbling block thats difficult to get around. Its hard to explain. I know i'm right, but proving something scientifically is very difficult. Sometimes i get very beaten down by this stuff. I go through weeks of making massive progress. Then other times, the work stalls when i hit obstacles. I'm considering backing off from the research again for a few weeks. Maybe just to take a time out to think things through, see exactly where i'm going to go with this. I have the proof, i just can't show it to you. Yet! John. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21193 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
I believe there is a black hole at the center of every galaxy. There is ample evidence for this, and the observations agree with the theoretical models. This is what science is about. Ahhh... But you don't know. All you have done is made a wild unsubstantiated claim, in the style of Nostradamus. Make enough such claims spanning a great enough period and you will indeed be able to tell us "told you so". However, that will not be because you knew anything specific. Just that you may be trying to learn the art of Gypsy Rosa-Lee by-the-grace-of-Shamus 'crystal ball' gazing into the future. We have the hard work of the LHC and astronomy to specifically test and tell us about black holes and many other things. Sorry, but dreams of tea leaves in a coffee cup do not a prediction make. As i said, if that new science evidence did turn up tomorrow, then in all probability i'm pretty sure you guys would think nothing of what i have posted here on this forum. But for anyone that understands the science, they would know that i was the one that discovered it first. It would also be "proof" that i'm telling you guys the truth about the book i found. Because that is where i got the information. Along with thousands of other absolutely incredible science breakthroughs. Then that is where you need to publish your 'proofs' and discoveries so that we can make use of that knowledge BEFORE that knowledge is rediscovered or reworked by modern science. Alternatively, also note that publishers made a lot of money out of rehashing the wails of Nostradamus... And for hundreds of years and still to this day... Do a "Dan Brown" and you immediately have a market of 43 million waiting for publication... ;-) Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21193 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
www.paddysinspace.com Good effort there. There's a lot of work that went into the wiki. Is there any activity still? Last news on there is a little dated at "31st August 09"... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Martin, When i took over the running of the boinc wiki, i gave the front page a face-lift and added a few extra features like RSS feeds, a new forum, extra images, and news. I was hoping that some people would start adding news items themselves, but it just never happened. But i have one of my United BOINC news signature images on the front page and the news on that changes every 3 hours. The site just never really took off after the revamp. Martin i know i have been hedging around showing you guys any real hard evidence for my claims, and this is a problem. In the next few weeks, i will be giving this some serious consideration. I'm going to have to make a decision as to what i can and can't do with the evidence i have compiled so far. Maybe its time to just go quite again for a few months while i complete the work. John. |
DesO Send message Joined: 2 Feb 12 Posts: 144 Credit: 2,624,617 RAC: 0 |
Johneey You have bizaree ideas but you seem like quite a freindly chap. DOnt go quiet that would leave some people with no one to attack...being a target is some times all one can be in this realm of affinty or this life, either way it is a service to another or others. In a perfect world you could discuss, resolve, adavance or reject your ideas ideas,visions or even hallucinations with impunity and kindeness and but after all this is just a forum populated by homo sapiens :) |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I'm not attaching Johnney, I have some sympathy for him. He believes he has found the truth, while we ordinary people are struggling with our machinery, sometimes making mistakes like in the Opera case."I have something to tell, but I have nobody listening to me" (Jesus, in an Apocryphal Gospel, that is one not included in the canonical four). Tullio |
Julie Send message Joined: 15 May 12 Posts: 279 Credit: 126,042 RAC: 0 |
http://www.lulu.com/ Why run around and beat your head against a wall trying to find a publisher? Lulu Press lets you print on demand. Be your own publisher. If I ever get my childrens book out of my head I am going to use it. Check it out :) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24910 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Well, if we're all still here on December 22nd, maybe Hollywood can turn these into some good films..... The Mayan Trilogy ...good read btw. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24910 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
That's a very big assumption on your part as you've got no guarantee that you'll even wake up tomorrow. Tomorrow never comes - if you wake up, it's today & if you don't........ |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Aaaggghhhhh! .....You guys are expecting something to fall from the sky like an asteroid or a meteor or some big explosion. Or maybe your expecting aliens to land and its on TV all over the world. Then on December 22nd, when NOTHING falls from the sky and there is no big explosion, and aliens DON'T land, then you guys will all turn up here and boast that it was all a big hoax because the world did not end. And all the so called "scientists" will feel they have been vindicated that "they knew" nothing was going to happen. Mark my words, its happening right now, in front of everyone's eyes and you cannot even see it happening. If you read the bible, and understood the bible, then at the very least, you would know what to look for. And if you knew what to look for, then you would see that its happening all around you right now. There is no falling star and aliens are not going to land. But the greatest single change in all of human history is happening all around you if you just open your eyes and see it. Its all down to how you interpret the information you see in everyday life. My tip; Keep a very close eye on the news that is currently coming out of the middle east. Especially Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, etc. And watch whats happening in medical science, even if you don't understand it! If you listen to the things i say on these message boards, you will "learn" to see the world the way i do. And i will teach you what to look for. John. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24910 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
No, it's today, yesterday was Wednesday (gotta stop drinking Guinness at 2am) |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
No, it's today, yesterday was Tuesday. You sure about that? After enough beers it becomes unclear what is which. #resist |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24910 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Lol..just about to edit it, but you beat me to it. |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
No, it's today, yesterday was Wednesday (gotta stop drinking Guinness at 2am) LOL! Ha Sirius, Guinness is the culprit here as well. ;-D Funny thing, HERE (where I am,) it's still Wednesday. Oh and on topic, to answer the thread title question: NOT! (I hope however that a big enlightening is on the verge of happening) #resist |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
another link to say no doomsday?? Maya text cites 2012 as end of calendar cycle, not end of world A newly discovered Mayan text reveals the "end date" for the Maya calendar. But unlike some modern people, ancient Maya did not expect the world to end on that date, researchers said. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Some food for thought here about December 21, 2012. 2 full length episodes of Ancient Aliens on the History channel website; 1. Ancient Aliens: The Doomsday Prophecies - Full Episode (44:15) http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens/videos/ancient-aliens-the-doomsday-prophecies 2. Ancient Aliens: The Mayan Conspiracy - Full Episode (44:15) http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens/videos/ancient-aliens-the-mayan-conspiracy Both TV shows are free to watch and both deal with 2012 and the Mayan calendar. Enjoy, John. |
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