So I am not putting down anyone's beliefs, but it does really amaze me how many of you are so closed minded to the theory of something existing after death.

Who says I'm close-minded about the subject? If there were actual evidence, I'd be more than willing to change my mind. So far, all of the evidence requires faith, and is purely in the realm of stories. I see no logical reason to conclude that there's life after death.

With all that going on, I am surprised that so many of you choose to say once we are dead, we are dead. I think something has to give after we die and if it takes a much more intelligent species to show us, then so be it. I await for the day and live for the day when we can be proven not to be the smartest things in all of existence.

Why does there have to be a life after death? If the mere idea or notion was never planted in our minds from the religious or primitive man's inability explain things so they made them up, would we even be contemplating this as a possibility?

I would gladly that we were not the smartest being in existence. I would love for there to be some race that could teach us a few things. I'm just not going to put any "faith" into the idea until we actually prove it and meet them.

Let's use some logic on this.

If there is an infinite number of intelligent other worlds.
and: if there is a heaven, hell, purgatory, limbo etc.

THEN you will meet these people soon enough. This may lessen the desire and urgency to find them while you are still here on Earth. Perhaps some of these races did not commit original sin and therefore got a free pass. Perhaps their religions had easier requirements for salvation . maybe there are multiple heavens--one for each religion--maybe that's why we have multiple universes ??.

Heaven will be over crowded and you won't be able to find your friends without some type of super-sorter/friend finder.

Now which is more likely: the above scenario or the fact that heaven is an oft-told fairy tale just as Mount Olympus was said to be the home of the Gods and the North Pole is the home of Santa Claus.

and the North Pole is the home of Santa Claus.

Those are childrens beliefs like the tooth fairy. Grown ups know better.

Santa Clause actually existed as "Saint Nicholas: "He had a reputation for secret gift-giving, such as putting coins in the shoes of those who left them out for him, and thus became the model for Santa Clause..."

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

Let's use some logic on this.

If there is an infinite number of intelligent other worlds.
and: if there is a heaven, hell, purgatory, limbo etc.

THEN you will meet these people soon enough. This may lessen the desire and urgency to find them while you are still here on Earth. Perhaps some of these races did not commit original sin and therefore got a free pass. Perhaps their religions had easier requirements for salvation . maybe there are multiple heavens--one for each religion--maybe that's why we have multiple universes ??.

Heaven will be over crowded and you won't be able to find your friends without some type of super-sorter/friend finder.

Now which is more likely: the above scenario or the fact that heaven is an oft-told fairy tale just as Mount Olympus was said to be the home of the Gods and the North Pole is the home of Santa Claus.

I would love for there to be an afterlife or whatever else you can ponder. As for heaven/hell/etc, probably not. At least not in the ways religion teaches us. My point being is: We don't have any proof of these places existing because we aren't meant to have any. Any proof we do receive happens when one thing does and that's death.

As for multiple universe, I find that more of a logical explanation than to say every mass civilization or culture that had/has some belief in an afterlife or life after death than to say for certain that there isn't. There is no proof either way to suggest there is, or that there isn't. We cannot see the wind, but we know it exists based on the damage it can do. In my opinion there is some truth embedded in religion, though most of it was wiped out over the eons with translations and manipulations from rulers and etc etc. But I would love for an alien race to teach us a few things and even prove us wrong on a number of others including our way of thinking. To be honest, I cannot wait for that to happen.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

My point being is: We don't have any proof of these places existing because we aren't meant to have any. Any proof we do receive happens when one thing does and that's death.

What does this even mean? If we aren't "meant" to know something, then there's no rationale for such thought, which means its nothing more than illogical fodder.

There is no proof either way to suggest there is, or that there isn't.

If something can't be proven or disproven, it is nothing more than mental fodder that doesn't deserve our resources or attention.

We cannot see the wind, but we know it exists based on the damage it can do.

To suggest that because we can't "see" wind, that this is similar to life after death is illogical. As you stated, we know it exists based upon its properties. What scientists have found when researching life after death has been nothing more than our brains reacting to chemicals in our brain, and this is especially true for those on their deathbed where termination in imminent.

In my opinion there is some truth embedded in religion, though most of it was wiped out over the eons with translations and manipulations from rulers and etc etc.

Except that actual research has shown and traced religion back to nothing more than stories of primitive man's ill attempts at explaining the world around him without scientific knowledge or approach.

But I would love for an alien race to teach us a few things and even prove us wrong on a number of others including our way of thinking. To be honest, I cannot wait for that to happen.

I'm all for being taught a few things, and I'm even OK with being wrong with our logic and thinking. But to want it to happen suggests that you're holding onto fairytale beliefs and you're hoping that aliens will validate your thinking. The odds are that aliens, if sufficiently more advanced than us, would probably show us the folly of religion, the belief in a deity, and belief in life after death.

The odds are that aliens, if sufficiently more advanced than us, would probably show us the folly of religion, the belief in a deity, and belief in life after death.

If they were to travel here in some sort of spacecraft, then yes, they would of course be more technologically advanced than us. But just supposing they also believed in all those things as well.

That would be a party stopper .....

Would they merely "believe" in those things as well, or would they have empirical evidence to show us proof? Merely believing in those things as well would only prove they went through the same natural evolutionary process, and that their primitives also made up things that they couldn't prove or disprove. For a lack of a better term, it would show that they are "only human".

What does this even mean? If we aren't "meant" to know something, then there's no rationale for such thought, which means its nothing more than illogical fodder.

Perhaps one day we will find out. To think we are meant to know and or understand everything at all times everywhere is illogical.

If something can't be proven or disproven, it is nothing more than mental fodder that doesn't deserve our resources or attention.

There is no proof, nor is there evidence of aliens. Yet here we stand. Crunching work units, convinced they exist and that we might find them.

To suggest that because we can't "see" wind, that this is similar to life after death is illogical. As you stated, we know it exists based upon its properties. What scientists have found when researching life after death has been nothing more than our brains reacting to chemicals in our brain, and this is especially true for those on their deathbed where termination in imminent.

Based on the volumes of history and literature that say there is something after death...I will have to disagree with that "science." Science isn't 100% and I don't think it is 100% on that level either.

Except that actual research has shown and traced religion back to nothing more than stories of primitive man's ill attempts at explaining the world around him without scientific knowledge or approach.

So you are telling me the Bible, or any book associated with religion has been proven 100% wrong? Interesting. I would love to read that report/study.

I'm all for being taught a few things, and I'm even OK with being wrong with our logic and thinking. But to want it to happen suggests that you're holding onto fairytale beliefs and you're hoping that aliens will validate your thinking. The odds are that aliens, if sufficiently more advanced than us, would probably show us the folly of religion, the belief in a deity, and belief in life after death.

To suggest aliens or the like don't have some form of religion or belief system is, as you would put it, illogical. And since we don't know that they do not, then we have no business saying it to be the truth.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

I would think that most of us who search are skeptical of success. We have been at it for 50 years now and there is nothing. Perhaps there are others out there; maybe even a very few in our Galaxy. We may never know. They are likely to be too far away.

When the list of habitable planets that comply with all parameters necessary for intelligent life formation comes in and is matched with the inventory of such planets in the future --this will become more clear. We search not just to affirm our belief but, also, to affirm our skepticism.

What does this even mean? If we aren't "meant" to know something, then there's no rationale for such thought, which means its nothing more than illogical fodder.

Perhaps one day we will find out. To think we are meant to know and or understand everything at all times everywhere is illogical.

I never said we can understand everything at all times, everywhere. All I said was to suggest that we aren't "meant" to know something is ridiculous to even proffer.

If something can't be proven or disproven, it is nothing more than mental fodder that doesn't deserve our resources or attention.

There is no proof, nor is there evidence of aliens. Yet here we stand. Crunching work units, convinced they exist and that we might find them.

You can now presume to speak for me? I crunch to answer the question. I don't crunch with any conviction of their existence or non-existence.

To suggest that because we can't "see" wind, that this is similar to life after death is illogical. As you stated, we know it exists based upon its properties. What scientists have found when researching life after death has been nothing more than our brains reacting to chemicals in our brain, and this is especially true for those on their deathbed where termination in imminent.

Based on the volumes of history and literature that say there is something after death...I will have to disagree with that "science." Science isn't 100% and I don't think it is 100% on that level either.

No, science isn't currently, and probably never will be "100%". If science were ever 100%, we would know everything, and to know everything would imply perfection. I don't think we'll ever reach that point. But, we can't simply operate outside the margins of science and claim what science doesn't know yet as fact.

Those "volumes of history and literature" are all written by primitive man using very bad science. We have since re-studied much of it and have found it to be completely bogus.

Except that actual research has shown and traced religion back to nothing more than stories of primitive man's ill attempts at explaining the world around him without scientific knowledge or approach.

So you are telling me the Bible, or any book associated with religion has been proven 100% wrong? Interesting. I would love to read that report/study.

Yes, but I'm afraid you'd never give those studies the time of day. I'll leave it to you to educate yourself.

I'm all for being taught a few things, and I'm even OK with being wrong with our logic and thinking. But to want it to happen suggests that you're holding onto fairytale beliefs and you're hoping that aliens will validate your thinking. The odds are that aliens, if sufficiently more advanced than us, would probably show us the folly of religion, the belief in a deity, and belief in life after death.

To suggest aliens or the like don't have some form of religion or belief system is, as you would put it, illogical. And since we don't know that they do not, then we have no business saying it to be the truth.

Why is it so illogical to suggest? If we can understand that along with technology comes less reliance on mythology, then it would stand to reason that an alien race capable of traversing the stars to reach us should be sufficiently advanced to let go of any religious views, or one should certainly hope so.

Merely using our own race as a primitive example, we can see that the more advanced we become, the more we discover that the stories of old have no foundation in reality.

I never said we can understand everything at all times, everywhere. All I said was to suggest that we aren't "meant" to know something is ridiculous to even proffer.

And why is that? Because we will know the answer to everything? Physically and mentally impossible.

You can now presume to speak for me? I crunch to answer the question. I don't crunch with any conviction of their existence or non-existence.

If you or i or anyone else didn't believe for a single second that alien life didn't exist, I doubt you would waste your time here.

No, science isn't currently, and probably never will be "100%". If science were ever 100%, we would know everything, and to know everything would imply perfection. I don't think we'll ever reach that point. But, we can't simply operate outside the margins of science and claim what science doesn't know yet as fact.

The study of science related material may never yield answers. No matter how hard we try, we will never know the answers to everything. Science or no science.

Those "volumes of history and literature" are all written by primitive man using very bad science. We have since re-studied much of it and have found it to be completely bogus. Yes, but I'm afraid you'd never give those studies the time of day. I'll leave it to you to educate yourself.

So you are going to tell me that every credible scientist on the planet has debunked the entire Bible? Hogwash. Absolute utter hogwash. And I read a lot...try me. Show me a legit study comprised by scientists all over the globe that make such a claim, and I will surely read it.

Why is it so illogical to suggest? If we can understand that along with technology comes less reliance on mythology, then it would stand to reason that an alien race capable of traversing the stars to reach us should be sufficiently advanced to let go of any religious views, or one should certainly hope so.

"Hope so" would imply their beliefs in the past or present mean nothing. What if their beliefs got them to the stars?

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

Why is it so illogical to suggest? If we can understand that along with technology comes less reliance on mythology,

OK, grant you that. Evidence being the Turin Shroud.

I'm not quite sure what you mean about the Turin Shroud being less reliance on mythology, but it has been discovered that the Turin Shroud was not of Jesus-era Jerusalem, but from first-century Syria, so likely not Jesus' cloth as is widely believed.

then it would stand to reason that an alien race capable of traversing the stars to reach us should be sufficiently advanced to let go of any religious views, or one should certainly hope so.

I don't think you can suppose that. Top scientists all over the world still personally believe in God. Why can't other extraterrestrials? (if they exist of course...)

Many scientists are afraid of a backlash were it revealed that they do not believe in a God. With the power religion holds, all scientific progress would be considered black magic and taboo, said to be the work of the devil by a bunch of non-believers.

Even so, as I said, non-belief is growing quickly. The more advanced we get, the more we realize that God doesn't exist. Scientists are only human too.

I never said we can understand everything at all times, everywhere. All I said was to suggest that we aren't "meant" to know something is ridiculous to even proffer.

And why is that? Because we will know the answer to everything? Physically and mentally impossible.

Nothing is impossible, only improbable.

No, we may not know the answer to everything, but to suggest that certain knowledge is not "meant" for us is pointless to bring up. If we are incapable of understanding something, and this something can't be proven or disproven, then how do we know (and I mean know as in empirically or scientifically) that this something is even an actuality?

We have to build a foundation on what is observable and build an understanding toward it. Starting with a theory and stating that we aren't "meant" to understand it flies in the face of advancement and progress. Such thought processes are only intended to keep the mysteries of life simply that: a mystery. Such frivolity is only suggested by those that wish to keep working in the realm of fantasy by dwelling outside the margins of science.

You can now presume to speak for me? I crunch to answer the question. I don't crunch with any conviction of their existence or non-existence.

If you or i or anyone else didn't believe for a single second that alien life didn't exist, I doubt you would waste your time here.

Again, do not presume to speak for me, and I have met others that state they only crunch because they want to prove that aliens do not exist and that their interpretation of the Bible is right about us being the only creatures in God's creation.

It's not up to you to decide what is a waste of time for everyone else. It is a tad arrogant to do so otherwise.

No, science isn't currently, and probably never will be "100%". If science were ever 100%, we would know everything, and to know everything would imply perfection. I don't think we'll ever reach that point. But, we can't simply operate outside the margins of science and claim what science doesn't know yet as fact.

The study of science related material may never yield answers. No matter how hard we try, we will never know the answers to everything. Science or no science.

That's defeatist logic with no logical foundation. Thus far, we have made amazing strides in our understanding of the universe around us, and the majority of it has been during the last 60 years. To suggest that all our work won't bring us to the answers of "everything" is merely to suggest that the answers found aren't to your particular liking.

Those "volumes of history and literature" are all written by primitive man using very bad science. We have since re-studied much of it and have found it to be completely bogus. Yes, but I'm afraid you'd never give those studies the time of day. I'll leave it to you to educate yourself.

So you are going to tell me that every credible scientist on the planet has debunked the entire Bible? Hogwash. Absolute utter hogwash. And I read a lot...try me. Show me a legit study comprised by scientists all over the globe that make such a claim, and I will surely read it.

No, I am not going to tell you that. Take a step back, breathe, calm down. You're getting too far ahead of yourself and you're purposefully misreading the words I type.

There are many, many books that have disputed the Bible and it's accuracy. Are you telling me you've never come across one? Or are you attempting to set me up with providing links to sources simply so that you can attack the source?

You've never read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkin? Biblical Nonsense by Dr. Jason Long? Do I seriously have to provide the name of every book and study that has debunked the Bible? Only people stubborn enough to actually believe the Bible holds even a modicum of fact are the ones claiming it hasn't been debunked. There's many different religions all claiming to have the answers that don't even recognize the Bible as being factual. To actually claim the Bible has any fact at all is to show one's bias for the Christian theology.

Why is it so illogical to suggest? If we can understand that along with technology comes less reliance on mythology, then it would stand to reason that an alien race capable of traversing the stars to reach us should be sufficiently advanced to let go of any religious views, or one should certainly hope so.

"Hope so" would imply their beliefs in the past or present mean nothing. What if their beliefs got them to the stars?

Beliefs in the past do mean nothing. Our understanding of the universe now (our current belief) is nothing like 200 years ago, 2000 years ago, 10,00 years ago or more. Our understanding of the universe 100 years from now might have little reflection of our belief now.

"Belief" isn't the motivator to everything, because belief changes as our understanding grows. The real motivator is our hunger for understanding, to discover that every answer provides 10 more questions that must also be answered. Learning will be a never-ending process, and it is this curiosity in this never-ending cycle that keeps us going.

Getting to the stars is simply a natural progression of the evolutionary process of understanding.

Even so, as I said, non-belief is growing quickly

I agree with you. And a lot of it is because people see countries waging wars on other countries, and think if there is a benign god why would it happen. If there is a god why does he/she let people die of cancer when modern science can't cure it. The modern world is shaking a lot of peoples belief in religion.

That's not at all what I mean. Sure, some of that is happening. But what I mean is the more advanced we become, the more answers we find, the more we understand that the answers we were once told are turning out to be completely wrong.

The more advanced we get, the more we realize that God doesn't exist.

That might be your view, but I don't think that you can generalize and apply that to everyone else. What can be said is that religion generally does not have the relevance (best word I can find) to everyday life that it did in the past.

But it's not just my view. Based upon what I said above, and adding in that non-belief is growing, it's safe to conclude that our belief in fairy tales and Gods is misplaced as we learn they're unfounded. It's only the believers and the religious right that are trying to keep their belief relevant.

You don't see hellfire & brimstone preachers in Welsh Chapels any more, terrorising their congregations with tales of purgatory. In the Victorian era, if you and your family were not seen in church on a Sunday, you were ostracised from society.

Actually, you do still see lots of that, just in more subtle ways. When I was growing up, similar ostracizing occurred, and the church I belonged to got very mad at my family because a) my mom divorced my biological father, which is still taboo in the Roman Catholic church and b) we couldn't afford the 10% of our total income as required payment to the church. Being Catholic and all, we had 6 boys in our family, which is a lot of hungry mouths to feed and clothe.

The faster we can get away from such barbaric, primitive thinking, the better.

Next week, not a word was said and we all carried on as normal. I should have had the guts to have stuck two fingers up and walked out, and I will always regret that I didn't. Yep, non-belief is growing quickly, and in some ways it is good, in other ways not so. Religion does bind people together in a certain way.

Sports binds people together. Board games bind people together. Death binds the living together. Life binds us together. We needn't the style of binding religion does. It only holds us back.

But it's not just my view. Based upon what I said above, and adding in that non-belief is growing, it's safe to conclude that our belief in fairy tales and Gods is misplaced as we learn they're unfounded. It's only the believers and the religious right that are trying to keep their belief relevant.

Allegedly. You imply these things don't exist period. When in fact there is no evidence to suggest they do or do not. In RE to your previous comment on my post, it is an impossibility for humans (us) to know everything about anything, given the infinity of space and beyond. In that respect it is impossible for us to ever truly know everything there is to know.

Actually, you do still see lots of that, just in more subtle ways. When I was growing up, similar ostracizing occurred, and the church I belonged to got very mad at my family because a) my mom divorced my biological father, which is still taboo in the Roman Catholic church and b) we couldn't afford the 10% of our total income as required payment to the church. Being Catholic and all, we had 6 boys in our family, which is a lot of hungry mouths to feed and clothe.

Three words: Westboro Baptist Church (though not legit it still is in a way hellfire and etc). Lets not get into the Crusades either.

Sports binds people together. Board games bind people together. Death binds the living together. Life binds us together. We needn't the style of binding religion does. It only holds us back.

I disagree. Religion or the likes was not designed to specifically hate anyone or any one group of people. That is something man has done over the years/eons: Manipulate religion and to make people think that they rule in regards to the holy words. Any religious people that use it as a form of hate are the ones holding their own religion back. Religion can bind people together, but not as long as people use it as a legal form of hate crime.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

But it's not just my view. Based upon what I said above, and adding in that non-belief is growing, it's safe to conclude that our belief in fairy tales and Gods is misplaced as we learn they're unfounded. It's only the believers and the religious right that are trying to keep their belief relevant.

Allegedly. You imply these things don't exist period. When in fact there is no evidence to suggest they do or do not. In RE to your previous comment on my post, it is an impossibility for humans (us) to know everything about anything, given the infinity of space and beyond. In that respect it is impossible for us to ever truly know everything there is to know.

I suggest these things don't exist period. Nowhere outside of religious interpretations is there any reason to believe anything we've discussed is real.

I could claim that Bob from Planet Xrack exists, and no one here could tell me he doesn't exist, ergo he must exist until you can prove that he doesn't. This is not science and this is not critical thinking. But this is the logic of religion and religious people.

And again, nothing is impossible, only improbable. By your own logic, since we don't know everything, you can't claim we will never know everything because there may be a day where we do and you'd be wrong. I don't believe that we'll ever know everything, but it's still a possibility. To deny it's a possibility is to take the same stance you've accused me of with no evidence to support or deny the claim. Of course this logic is slightly flawed, but it is the logic of most people reading apparently.

Actually, you do still see lots of that, just in more subtle ways. When I was growing up, similar ostracizing occurred, and the church I belonged to got very mad at my family because a) my mom divorced my biological father, which is still taboo in the Roman Catholic church and b) we couldn't afford the 10% of our total income as required payment to the church. Being Catholic and all, we had 6 boys in our family, which is a lot of hungry mouths to feed and clothe.

Three words: Westboro Baptist Church (though not legit it still is in a way hellfire and etc). Lets not get into the Crusades either.

I think we found some common ground here.

Sports binds people together. Board games bind people together. Death binds the living together. Life binds us together. We needn't the style of binding religion does. It only holds us back.

I disagree. Religion or the likes was not designed to specifically hate anyone or any one group of people. That is something man has done over the years/eons: Manipulate religion and to make people think that they rule in regards to the holy words. Any religious people that use it as a form of hate are the ones holding their own religion back. Religion can bind people together, but not as long as people use it as a legal form of hate crime.

Religion holds us back by trying to keep us from thinking critically or logically. Logic and religion just don't mix. Its great that religion doesn't teach hate (though specific readings in the Holy Bible do in fact teach hate), but it also teaches lies and feel-good stories that have no foundation in reality.

Religion holds us back by trying to keep us from thinking critically or logically. Logic and religion just don't mix. Its great that religion doesn't teach hate (though specific readings in the Holy Bible do in fact teach hate), but it also teaches lies and feel-good stories that have no foundation in reality.

it does not teach hate actually. it is the people who preach it who spread the hate. it was not created on the basis of hating anyone...until so called "rulers" said so.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

Actually JS, there are several examples of genocide, rape, murder and just general crimes against humanity in the old testament and they are all approved and commanded by the god of love.

Here's a link to several examples of the order to commit murder, you can search around for the other atrocities to be committed if one is to follow the god of love.

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

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I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
Chris Hedges

A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

"You must not covet your neighbor's house or land, male or female servant, ... long for your neighbor's household, his field, his male or female slave, his ox, ... Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife: nor his house, nor his field," ...Deuteronomy

The inspired word of god for all of you to see. Also not a single reference to the modern world and it's morality , machines or nations. God must not be a techie, seer or even a good visionary. Female slaves ??

Frankly, Khomeni was more modern since it's its ok to have sex with a Camel.
Oxen?---UGH !!!!

Religion holds us back by trying to keep us from thinking critically or logically. Logic and religion just don't mix. Its great that religion doesn't teach hate (though specific readings in the Holy Bible do in fact teach hate), but it also teaches lies and feel-good stories that have no foundation in reality.

it does not teach hate actually. it is the people who preach it who spread the hate. it was not created on the basis of hating anyone...until so called "rulers" said so.

I take it you've never actually read the Bible from beginning to end. There are several examples of teaching hateful, immoral things in the Bible. Again, most of them are ignored by believers, but they are still there in that book.

Kill disobedient children:

"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear." -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Kill the child who mocks his parents:

"The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it." -- Proverbs 30:17

Kill any non-believers:

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Hatred against gays:

If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives. (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Hatred for anyone that tries to tell the future or fortunes:

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Murder for cheating on your spouse:

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Murder for someone trying to convert you to worship a different invisible man in the sky:

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

Justification of murder:

Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)

Several passages about non-believers and non-Christians that approves murdering them:

They are without God.

"Whosoever ... abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God." -- 2 John 9

They are all antichrists.

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." -- 2 John 7

They should be shunned. Neither marry nor be friends with them.

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." -- 2 Cor.6:14-17

They should be killed.

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10



Need I continue?

Here is a movie I saw called Letting Go of God, which follows what OzzF4|\| has been talking about. If you don't want to buy the movie, then read the description and review. It is really interesting, funny, and thought provoking.

Steve

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